Test/DHB/NPP blast or EQ?

[FredFlinstone85]

So I am planning out my next blast for mid-summer.

Currently 178lbs @ 12%, Now that I am lean, I am looking to increase mass.

I have used most compounds but EQ is one I haven't. I have used DHB from a source no longer on the board. I had like almost no issues from PIP and I grew like crazy. I was running 200mg alongside 300mg of Tren. I plan on taking a long break from Tren. I don't have too bad sides from it but I just feel like I am poisoning myself. So....

I am planning on a lean mass blast. 12 weeks... Something like this.

450mg Test E
300mg DHB (Or EQ @ ???mg)
300mg NPP

I know that RBC is a concern with EQ and NPP but less with DHB. I would prefer to go with DHB but just would like to ask around for opinions here.

 

[Livingcanvas]

I'm partial to EQ, but why change if it worked before? Go with the Test/dhb/npp combo and don't look back

 

[Bigdovis2]

I'm partial to EQ, but why change if it worked before? Go with the Test/dhb/npp combo and don't look back

This.

Dont try to fix what isn’t broken. Of course experiment a little if you’re willing, but this is the reason why I haven’t blasted tren haha. Why would is if I know what works for me and I feel good on it?

You can try ip6 or grapefruit seed extract for hematocrit issues if you have any.

Also maybe instead of changing the blast just add in GH? Something to think abt so you don’t have to change out any aas that work for you

 

[tinypeter]

EQ raped my kidneys. Never used dhb though.
From personal experience I feel there is better options than eq.
Even tren e at 400 a week didn't rape my kidneys like eq at 600mg a week did. My .2

 

[Livingcanvas]

EQ raped my kidneys. Never used dhb though.
From personal experience I feel there is better options than eq.
Even tren e at 400 a week didn't rape my kidneys like eq at 600mg a week did. My .2

Did you get cystatin-c test to confirm that or are you just going off creatinine and egfr? Be sure you can have those elevated while your kidneys are just fine. Cystatin C is much more accurate when diagnosing kidney damage.

 

[tinypeter]

@Livingcanvas Just looked at my tests.
Creatinine 1.35
Egfr 69

 

[goodfella]

The DHB/NPP combo sounds a lot better as eq is going to take much longer to build stable bloods and reap it's benefits. DHB/NPP has got me interested now

 

[Livingcanvas]

@Livingcanvas Just looked at my tests.
Creatinine 1.35
Egfr 69

My BUN, creatinine, and egfr are always high, but it's because we work out hard. In fact my creatinine is higher than yours even off cycle. But I always add in a Cystatin C test and it's always dead middle of the range, pretty much perfect. They'll also calculate a more accurate egfr from that as well. Cystatin C is the one you should worry about for your kidney health, problem is, most doctors are ignorant to it. I also got a urine test to make sure I wasnt excreting proteins and all was good there too.

Moral of the story is, don't throw the baby out with the bath water over bun and creatinine without checking cystatin c

 

[tinypeter]

Lol I still have 70ml of EQ too

 

[tinypeter]

@Livingcanvas also the EQ made me start cramping weirdly. Never got around to taking magnesium complex was told that would help a ton

 

[82abnranger]

So I am planning out my next blast for mid-summer.

Currently 178lbs @ 12%, Now that I am lean, I am looking to increase mass.

I have used most compounds but EQ is one I haven't. I have used DHB from a source no longer on the board. I had like almost no issues from PIP and I grew like crazy. I was running 200mg alongside 300mg of Tren. I plan on taking a long break from Tren. I don't have too bad sides from it but I just feel like I am poisoning myself. So....

I am planning on a lean mass blast. 12 weeks... Something like this.

450mg Test E
300mg DHB (Or EQ @ ???mg)
300mg NPP

I know that RBC is a concern with EQ and NPP but less with DHB. I would prefer to go with DHB but just would like to ask around for opinions here.

I ran a very similar cycle, one thing to note is that DHB takes as much as 5 - 6 weeks to kick in, but when it does you know it. NPP is smart because you will see gains relatively quickly and the Test E is a good test base, I did 600mgs a week. I had zero sides as well, some PIP from DHB when injecting in smaller muscles groups, but that's all.

 

[FredFlinstone85]

I ran a very similar cycle, one thing to note is that DHB takes as much as 5 - 6 weeks to kick in, but when it does you know it. NPP is smart because you will see gains relatively quickly and the Test E is a good test base, I did 600mgs a week. I had zero sides as well, some PIP from DHB when injecting in smaller muscles groups, but that's all.

Cool great to know.. I might be up to the test. I just noticed when I go over 500mg that I have to increase my aromasin more than I would like. Yeah, I am pumped over the cycle. I loved Dhb before honestly more than Tren. Just made me insanely strong compared to anything else I have tried (besides some orals).