Test primo growth possible decca for the joints?

[Ilift22]

Hey guys new to the forum thought I would use it. Stats are 29 185lbs 2 years of blasting and cruise. My next cycle after my health phase goes 300 primo 300 test will tapper up as needed 4 iu growth split am and pm Anavar will be added when strength stops progressing I have knee issues and want to add decca at 100 mg possibly 200 for my knee issues anyone have experience with decca I don’t want decca dick and I know it’s really personal to person but what’s your thought on the decca dose vs sides

 

[Snowowl]

300 primo is a waste of oil in my opinion. It is such a mild drug that you’re going to get little to nothing here. At BARE minimum I’d start it off at 500mg/week which is still very low when talking primo.

300mg Test is a good starting point but ideally could titrate that up to 500mg/week by the 6-7th week depending on body comp and response to the drugs.

4iu GH doesn’t need to be split AM/PM. It’s a minimal dose of GH and can be shot all at once. Morning or before bed. When you’re running a low dosing of HGH splitting the dose in overkill and isn’t going to change much. Just make sure whatever time you take it whether it’s morning or night keep it consistent and pin the whole 4.

Last, deca isn’t a bad idea for some joint lubrication and a bit of size. I would go for the 200mg. Deca dick should be highly unlikely at 200mg of deca, as long as your test is around that 500mg range. If you’re that concerned of deca dick, swap it out for NPP.

 

[Ilift22]

Hey man appreciate your input my reasonings here for gh is due to excessive sleepy hands sometimes splitting those dose helps this and I do plan to taper up the primo and test but wanted to get a baseline for my estrogen I don’t want to crush my e2 running to high primo and not enough test my plan is to finish primo at 600 mg and my test to 500 or 600 depending on my e2 I know decca will also exaggerate my estrogen . This would probably be my 5th cycle
Only issue I had in the past which I have learned from is running my cycles longer as I was doing 10 weeks which obviously is not nearly enough what do recommend test to primo ratio

 

[BBBG]

How tall are you?

 

[Ilift22]

5 foot 6 185 right now

 

[BBBG]

None of this is complicated.

What did you run previously that did the most for you. Start there and add a little to it. The drugs are just a minor part, training and diet come first.

Deca doesn’t do what most people think it does. Depending on what your knee issues are, it might provide a minor relief or it could do nothing for your knee issues. Also, deca won’t cause “deca dick” as long as you have a testosterone base.

Have you run all this shit before. Don’t add more than one new compound or you’ll have no clue what to do when potential side effects hit you.

At 29 years old the HGH isn’t going to do much for you. I’m not sure if you’ll see any real benefits. But no need to split doses. Start low and gradually increase and you won’t experience the side effects. That’s something that you need to run longer than your cycle anyway. 6 months.

I don’t like orals so I’m biased there. I’d increase test or primo if you stall. You shouldn’t stall. Not at your age.

 

[Ilift22]

My past cycles were mostly test and mast with growth and adding growth with pre and post insulin gave me the best growth I ever saw ive ran my test to a gram before i also did two cycles with tren which I would like to add I’ll never touch again gave me anxiety long after stopping but all clear now I also had tried eq but stopped at 7 weeks due to anxiety this will be a first with primo and I had 2 knee surgery’s one meniscus and the other was my acl I get joint pain on squats so I was hoping adding decca would give me some temp relief in my push phase when weight is going up I know how to control my e2 and what too look out for my bloods are done every 2 months and I’m over the top with health supps too diet is dialed in as well the biggest thing I saw with growth was I need less mg of peds to achieve similar results when adding growth and then insulin helps me add the weight when my food gets maxed for me I know primo crashes a lot of peoples e2 which is why I asked what ratio to test you recommend I would assume 2:1 I also hate any orals except Anavar cause how the effect my eating

 

[Snowowl]

Hey man appreciate your input my reasonings here for gh is due to excessive sleepy hands sometimes splitting those dose helps this and I do plan to taper up the primo and test but wanted to get a baseline for my estrogen I don’t want to crush my e2 running to high primo and not enough test my plan is to finish primo at 600 mg and my test to 500 or 600 depending on my e2 I know decca will also exaggerate my estrogen . This would probably be my 5th cycle
Only issue I had in the past which I have learned from is running my cycles longer as I was doing 10 weeks which obviously is not nearly enough what do recommend test to primo ratio

Personally I wouldn’t bother splitting GH doses until you start getting to 9,10, etc. I like to take my full dose before bed this way I can maximize my IGF production right before I go to bed. Let me explain:

Naturally IGF1 secretes in the body while you sleep to promote growth and repair. We inject the GH before bed thus combing our natural IG secretion + exogenous from the GH = much higher IGF levels. Your body repairs muscle while you sleep after all, take advantage of this.


Pretty solid plan. The deca can increase e2 yes, so keep the AI on hand but don’t start it right off the rip. You will gradually notice the e2 sides but primo may just take care of it for you, genetics depending.

I strongly suggest you consider using NPP as you’re still pretty new with this being a 5th cycle. By utilising NPP you will be able to manage your e2 sides much easier if they do arise. Not only that but you’re planning to run such a low dose that npp 100/ml will suffice.