THE King Leo Challenge Log

[Trenbolognese]

Gentleman of the great SST,

A source on this board proposed a challenge, somewhat as a joke, upon returning to sell their delicious candies to our community. What is entails is absolutely absurd dosages of Tren and Test for a short 5 week blast and some orals including Winny, Cialis and an AI. Well, I decided to begin this shit and I do think there is at least one other fellow on here trying it out too. I figured I would start a log talking about this journey and whether or not by chicken shit ass even can finish it. Anyways, I wanted to start this thread on Monday when I began but I was lazy this week taking care of moving stuff and job duties.

Also, just to preface some things real quick that I already know are going to be comments or remarks.
YES. This is absolutely stupid and possibly ridiculously harmful in the long run. YES. The risks absolutely probably outweigh the benefits and most of the excess dosage may be going to waste.
NO. I am not any type of newbie to this or even high doses.
YES. I am extremely attentive to the physical health, including cholesterol and BP and am always controlling it in ways that don’t include drugs first and foremost.
So with all that being said, let me talk a bit about the next 5 weeks.
YES. Am retarded.

Obviously all AAS drugs listed are from @“SpartaPharmaUSA” so just so we are clear on that!
2G Tren Ace / Week
2G Test Prop / Week
~125mg Winstrol / day
~20-40mg Cialis / day
Also have allotted 12-24mg Aromasin / day
I am taking right about 2.85ml of both Test Prop and Tren Ace. I know it is not completely perfect, but my mindset is to finish off two vials of each per week so after 5 weeks it gives out to the 10 of each!
So the dosage for Winstrol is a tad over 2.5 tabs per day. I have been just taking 2.5 tabs each day and I assume that near the end of the run there will be a pill or so left to just pop in those end days.
So with the Cialis, there are 60 pills total for 35 days, this averages out to a bit under two pills per day. I have been taking 2 since the start (past 4 days) and will probably slip up a day here or there or simply take one per day near the end.
For the Aromasin, I have 60 pills but taking that much from the start will absolutely destroy my estrogen since I don’t convert an absurd amount. I’ve been taking just one per day the past few days and even that is still dropping me lower than I need at the moment. This is likely due to not having full blood sat levels yet, so I’ll probably update as that changes.
I also wanted to mention that I have Pharma Prami that I have had for a while that I’ll be taking for the prolactin rise I’ll likely get from that much tren. They are 1mg tabs if anyone was wondering.
Also, I am using Humalog like I normally run in short bursts. I don’t have a need to run high Slin doses, but I am using 2IU in the morning, 4-6IU pretraining, and another 2IU for the first meal after training.
I am also using 5IU HGH a day. Been on for a while now and fuck I love growth.

Alright, so what am I starting with? Yeah I am 5’1" 320lbs 44%bf…
But really I am 6’2" and swing between 270-280. Currently about 12-13%. I am not getting ready for a show, just riding this roller coaster and seeing how it can royally fuck me up and how juicy I can get along the way. Background is athletics and then bodybuilding but was ended with a random medical emergency out of the blue that mangled the aesthetics of one of my extremities. Sucks but I ain’t dead so we straight.
Diet is alright. I am a huge fan of high carb (>700) and high protein (500-600) with lower fats (<100). One thing I have is THREE (yes three) cheat meals per week. That seems like a lot but my metabolism is stupid and I usually don’t pick the average “cheat meal” during these times.

Training is a modified bodybuilder split. I cycle with two leg days, two back days, chest, shoulders, and arms all arranged with some easier days or rest days in between.

So as for how the first week is going. All I gotta definitely say is the test is so smooth. Draws and pins just like water and never any pain at all. Not exaggerating either since some test prop can have a pop to it. Now, unfortunately I always have gotten some PIP with Tren Ace, regardless of the concentration, carrier oil, or manufacturer. Probably just how I react to the ester but it always gives me a bit and goes away after less than a day. With this in mind, I pin at night and stretch afterward and again before going to bed. Wake up fine and have no issues.

I’ll try to update as much as possible but don’t want to just post “good workout” each day. Likely going to be another week before I realize whether I can actually finish this race or not, butt fuck it.

 

[yelruP]

Holy fuck dude this is a great detailed post! Am I allowed to ask what the cost of the cycle is? Best of luck man, you are insane

 

[balurgo]

Wish you the best. Pictures will be great

 

[skaloola]

Christ, I don’t even like exceeding 350mg of tren a week after reading about how much it can affect atherosclerotic plaque buildup and also the studies regarding buildup of amyloid-beta plaque in the brain.

Thats’ not even getting into all the sides from tren – sweats, running hot, lethargy, aggression, insane pumps…

edit: might as well add in a gram of Primo a week and 100mg anavar ED while you’re at it.

 

[Trenbolognese]

yelruP" pid='42496' dateline='1550871464:

Holy fuck dude this is a great detailed post! Am I allowed to ask what the cost of the cycle is? Best of luck man, you are insane

Yeah I did not pay market price for all of them together that is for sure. Sparta definitely did me a solid on this one. For a 5 week blast, yeah a bit expensive, but not if you get the cycle itself and say run it for double that. Now that could be an insane cycle by itself!

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skaloola" pid='42508' dateline='1550876095:

Christ, I don’t even like exceeding 350mg of tren a week after reading about how much it can affect atherosclerotic plaque buildup and also the studies regarding buildup of amyloid-beta plaque in the brain.

Thats’ not even getting into all the sides from tren – sweats, running hot, lethargy, aggression, insane pumps…

edit: might as well add in a gram of Primo a week and 100mg anavar ED while you’re at it.

(Not so) funny you mention the info about the brain…without giving much away, was totally a “brain science” researcher throughout college so cognition and degeneration are always a worry. I know there is a body of evidence about it, and I’m not going to knock it because I haven’t done any work with AAS in particular, but realistically you can find a lot of information linking cognitive impairment to damn near anything. Not downplaying anything though! Realistically, it is likely related to the cardiovascular issues that tren can cause as that is one of the biggest links to neurodegen right now.

 

[Primobro]

Damn bro… 270-280 at 12%! You’re a beast already and I can only imagine what that amount of tren, test, AND 125mg of winni will do. I’m looking forward to your progress and updates. I too within the last couple of years have had a medical emergency fuck up my aesthetics pretty badly. I understand how tough it can be mentally and physically to accept this change and I have a lot of respect for your optimism.

 

[NattyAF]

Gonna need before and after pics for this thread to mean anything.

 

[MattMatt93]

NattyAF" pid='42949' dateline='1551187751:

Gonna need before and after pics for this thread to mean anything.

This… we already had a thread “disappear” for lack of verification. Your word can only go so far so hopefully progress pictures will be a part of this process. Good luck!
@“Masterofron”

 

[Masterofron]

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

 

[Dbolic]

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

 

[Primobro]

Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

It’s ABSOLUTELY an OPSEC risk. Im amazed anyone thinks any differently. I mean if LE really wanted one of us, even without pics it would be possible but why make it that much easier?

 

[Masterofron]

Primobro" pid='43172' dateline='1551303671:

Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

It’s ABSOLUTELY an OPSEC risk. Im amazed anyone thinks any differently. I mean if LE really wanted one of us, even without pics it would be possible but why make it that much easier?

I’ve disproven the opsec back in the Dbolic thread. Shortly afterwards he deleted the thread. If law enforcement wants to get a customer by spending the time and resources (a lot are involved) analyzing a half naked image of someone, then fuck. We’re all fucked. Wowza who knew.

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Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

I’ve not accused your lying ass about deleting your account buddy. It was merely an example of a potential outcome for this other guy. Shit if I were either one of you, and couldn’t back up my own words, I definitely would delete my shit and be done here. There’s a new rule that was formed around you, it’s the “Don’t larp”. Literally, this was because of you lolol.

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Let me add- “I deleted thread cause you were flaming hard with your superiority complex”.
HA. You’ve deleted because atleast 5-6 others were on your ass too buddy.

 

[MattMatt93]

Masterofron" pid='43211' dateline='1551327412:

Primobro" pid='43172' dateline='1551303671:

Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

It’s ABSOLUTELY an OPSEC risk. Im amazed anyone thinks any differently. I mean if LE really wanted one of us, even without pics it would be possible but why make it that much easier?

I’ve disproven the opsec back in the Dbolic thread. Shortly afterwards he deleted the thread. If law enforcement wants to get a customer by spending the time and resources (a lot are involved) analyzing a half naked image of someone, then fuck. We’re all fucked. Wowza who knew.

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Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

I’ve not accused your lying ass about deleting your account buddy. It was merely an example of a potential outcome for this other guy. Shit if I were either one of you, and couldn’t back up my own words, I definitely would delete my shit and be done here. There’s a new rule that was formed around you, it’s the “Don’t larp”. Literally, this was because of you lolol.

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Let me add- “I deleted thread cause you were flaming hard with your superiority complex”.
HA. You’ve deleted because atleast 5-6 others were on your ass too buddy.

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@“Dbolic” IMO, I was a fan of your log for sure. I like that you updated your stats and some workouts and the gear you were running throughout the weeks. I even backed you saying the statements you were saying were true without the photos. I guess this may have been naive of me. When @“Masterofron” confronted you in I feel a friendly way, even showing you how to blank out noticeable tattoos, you go and delete the thread…Not even a “hey mastero buddy, i am not going to post the pics for so and so reasons i hope my word is good enough,” but no you just full on delete it which made it suspicious if what you were telling us was actually true. Then to top it off, the Mod’s make a rule that basically states “Prove your progress with more than just words,” literally right after your thread was deleted. Coincidence? I really don’t think so man, so even the mods were questioning the legitimacy of your progress. Honestly I do hope what you were saying about your results are true. I just don’t see the point on lying on the forum, especially since this is supposed to be some sort of guideline for the new comers in the gear world. Giving guys false hope with these dosages but they try it out seeking the daily changes you posted and end up getting really sick. No good man.

 

[Dbolic]

MattMatt93" pid='43237' dateline='1551360045:

Masterofron" pid='43211' dateline='1551327412:

Primobro" pid='43172' dateline='1551303671:

Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

It’s ABSOLUTELY an OPSEC risk. Im amazed anyone thinks any differently. I mean if LE really wanted one of us, even without pics it would be possible but why make it that much easier?

I’ve disproven the opsec back in the Dbolic thread. Shortly afterwards he deleted the thread. If law enforcement wants to get a customer by spending the time and resources (a lot are involved) analyzing a half naked image of someone, then fuck. We’re all fucked. Wowza who knew.

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Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

I’ve not accused your lying ass about deleting your account buddy. It was merely an example of a potential outcome for this other guy. Shit if I were either one of you, and couldn’t back up my own words, I definitely would delete my shit and be done here. There’s a new rule that was formed around you, it’s the “Don’t larp”. Literally, this was because of you lolol.

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Let me add- “I deleted thread cause you were flaming hard with your superiority complex”.
HA. You’ve deleted because atleast 5-6 others were on your ass too buddy.

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@“Dbolic” IMO, I was a fan of your log for sure. I like that you updated your stats and some workouts and the gear you were running throughout the weeks. I even backed you saying the statements you were saying were true without the photos. I guess this may have been naive of me. When @“Masterofron” confronted you in I feel a friendly way, even showing you how to blank out noticeable tattoos, you go and delete the thread…Not even a “hey mastero buddy, i am not going to post the pics for so and so reasons i hope my word is good enough,” but no you just full on delete it which made it suspicious if what you were telling us was actually true. Then to top it off, the Mod’s make a rule that basically states “Prove your progress with more than just words,” literally right after your thread was deleted. Coincidence? I really don’t think so man, so even the mods were questioning the legitimacy of your progress. Honestly I do hope what you were saying about your results are true. I just don’t see the point on lying on the forum, especially since this is supposed to be some sort of guideline for the new comers in the gear world. Giving guys false hope with these dosages but they try it out seeking the daily changes you posted and end up getting really sick. No good man.

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Hey man. I actually deleted it after they posted that. I wish I could explain more why it is an OPSEC reason but I can’t. If the mods wanted me to send them pictures, I would’ve gladly sent them some. Publicly it would be stupid for me to provide anything of the sort. The fact that the mods are trying to post that as a rule though is pretty ridiculous when you take in account 90% of logs on any forum do not consist of pictures.

There are several guys on this forum that can attest to my physique and if you were an active member on the reddit days, you’d seen an old transformation of me in 2014 and 2015. JekyllandHydeLabs has seen pics, Bgdubty has seen pics, and so have a few others. If you guys remembered, Bgdubty had his opsec ruined and someone got his name and state/city info. This is why he didn’t follow through with one of his contests. There is even an IFBB Pro physique guy on here who did my training and diet for about 4-5 months before I switched over to an actual guru.

And again, I posted a drug protocol given to me by someone that charges outlandish money. The cycle consisted of what 2gs of injectables and that’s suppose to be extreme and I’m giving some newbies false information? PharmaGH posted he does 2G of test ALONE with tren and GH. He’s a competitor and knows what I posted of 1.2g of test and 800 Deca isn’t unheard of.

Again my blast wasn’t even extreme… the most extreme part was I had a shit ton of GH incorporated. Why? Cause I get paid damn good money to afford it and not risking that. Being able to afford $1,000 worth of GH a month is a damn good reason not to risk it lol aside from other OPSEC reasons

 

[Masterofron]

Dbolic" pid='43240' dateline='1551362098:

MattMatt93" pid='43237' dateline='1551360045:

Masterofron" pid='43211' dateline='1551327412:

Primobro" pid='43172' dateline='1551303671:

Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

It’s ABSOLUTELY an OPSEC risk. Im amazed anyone thinks any differently. I mean if LE really wanted one of us, even without pics it would be possible but why make it that much easier?

I’ve disproven the opsec back in the Dbolic thread. Shortly afterwards he deleted the thread. If law enforcement wants to get a customer by spending the time and resources (a lot are involved) analyzing a half naked image of someone, then fuck. We’re all fucked. Wowza who knew.

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Dbolic" pid='43169' dateline='1551300879:

Masterofron" pid='43125' dateline='1551281367:

Hey buddy don’t be another Dbolic, we would all love and appreciate to see a good log, but if your a fraud your just gonna end up deleting ur account out of shame for being busted lol.

First off, I didn’t delete my account. I deleted the thread cause you were flaming too hard with your superiority complex. Second, lay off the tren. Third, the fact you don’t consider posting pics an OPSEC risk in this business is insane. I won’t continue to argue with you because it’s line arguing with a 5 year old who wants to be right. You’re set in your ways and think your beliefs and word are the rules and law. I’ve been here within the community way longer than you guaranteed.

I’ve not accused your lying ass about deleting your account buddy. It was merely an example of a potential outcome for this other guy. Shit if I were either one of you, and couldn’t back up my own words, I definitely would delete my shit and be done here. There’s a new rule that was formed around you, it’s the “Don’t larp”. Literally, this was because of you lolol.

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Let me add- “I deleted thread cause you were flaming hard with your superiority complex”.
HA. You’ve deleted because atleast 5-6 others were on your ass too buddy.

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@“Dbolic” IMO, I was a fan of your log for sure. I like that you updated your stats and some workouts and the gear you were running throughout the weeks. I even backed you saying the statements you were saying were true without the photos. I guess this may have been naive of me. When @“Masterofron” confronted you in I feel a friendly way, even showing you how to blank out noticeable tattoos, you go and delete the thread…Not even a “hey mastero buddy, i am not going to post the pics for so and so reasons i hope my word is good enough,” but no you just full on delete it which made it suspicious if what you were telling us was actually true. Then to top it off, the Mod’s make a rule that basically states “Prove your progress with more than just words,” literally right after your thread was deleted. Coincidence? I really don’t think so man, so even the mods were questioning the legitimacy of your progress. Honestly I do hope what you were saying about your results are true. I just don’t see the point on lying on the forum, especially since this is supposed to be some sort of guideline for the new comers in the gear world. Giving guys false hope with these dosages but they try it out seeking the daily changes you posted and end up getting really sick. No good man.

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Hey man. I actually deleted it after they posted that. I wish I could explain more why it is an OPSEC reason but I can’t. If the mods wanted me to send them pictures, I would’ve gladly sent them some. Publicly it would be stupid for me to provide anything of the sort. The fact that the mods are trying to post that as a rule though is pretty ridiculous when you take in account 90% of logs on any forum do not consist of pictures.

There are several guys on this forum that can attest to my physique and if you were an active member on the reddit days, you’d seen an old transformation of me in 2014 and 2015. JekyllandHydeLabs has seen pics, Bgdubty has seen pics, and so have a few others. If you guys remembered, Bgdubty had his opsec ruined and someone got his name and state/city info. This is why he didn’t follow through with one of his contests. There is even an IFBB Pro physique guy on here who did my training and diet for about 4-5 months before I switched over to an actual guru.

And again, I posted a drug protocol given to me by someone that charges outlandish money. The cycle consisted of what 2gs of injectables and that’s suppose to be extreme and I’m giving some newbies false information? PharmaGH posted he does 2G of test ALONE with tren and GH. He’s a competitor and knows what I posted of 1.2g of test and 800 Deca isn’t unheard of.

Again my blast wasn’t even extreme… the most extreme part was I had a shit ton of GH incorporated. Why? Cause I get paid damn good money to afford it and not risking that. Being able to afford $1,000 worth of GH a month is a damn good reason not to risk it lol aside from other OPSEC reasons

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Opsec opsec opsec. Timestamped pics or nada. I’ve given you very valid reasons why a photo can be safe (a scary thought for you), is your employer familiar with your unclothed body in a cropped photo? No. Maybe. Who knows.

 

[Dbolic]

Quite frankly, I don’t have to prove shit to you. Who are you? Some internet chub who strikes himself to other men and that’s why you demand photos? If the mods want photos, they can request and I’ll happily oblige.

Sorry I take my personal security and life serious enough because I have something to lose. By all means, if you’re living with your parents and scraping funds together you don’t have anything to lose.

I won’t continue this argument anymore cause quite frankly it isn’t worth the time of wiping my ass.

 

[Trenbolognese]

Ok so wanted to give another update as well.

I know that part of this thread is kind of getting out of hand with some arguing, but let’s keep it about the actual stuff going on. I understand the evidence that pictures provide, I really do, so if ya’ll wanting pictures, I’ll do what I can but I’m in a position where I’m not going to be putting face or other “notable” parts that are pretty unique to people that know me or have heard of me (not famous btw but yeah…). I Ain’t exactly sure how to go about it yet, but I’ve been in contact with pics to Sparta and if mods are wanting info too, that’s fine. Just wanting to throw that out there.

Ok so as for how things are going elsewhere. First off, taking that much Cialis per day gave me an insane amount of head congestion at the middle and end of the first week that lasted a couple of days. Could have definitely been a normal cold, but I am somewhat convinced it was related to the 40mg Cialis. As for the “other” side effects of Cialis, yep…obnoxious in a good way. Into the second week, the Winny does a crazy job drying me out. I’m not normally a crazy vascular person but I am liking the results so far. Again, Sparta has evidence of this.

Taking in 6ml of oil a day is obnoxious! Even with rotating sites, the minor PIP I get from the Tren Ace can be uncomfortable at times. The Test I don’t really have a problem with except the fact that I’m still dealing with 3ml of it each night. I mentioned in my first post that I always get some PIP with the acetate ester, so I’m not going to say anything about the quality being less than par since it is completely normal to me. Depending on how late I pin, it can sometimes feel like that muscle isn’t 100% fresh for the next day’s workout.

I don’t get super angry or crazy on tren. One of the most notable sides I have gotten in the past is being a bit apathetic toward people. I kind of just don’t really give a shit about others and may appear like I’m not interested in conversation. This is definitely not the norm for me since I am a friendly, social guy that loves to talk at baseline. No anger issues with the family or anything of that sort, just shit hole drivers. Little things irritate me more than anything and I definitely think that with 2g of tren per week I am not having a problem controlling it at all.

Weight training has been great. Cardio has been horrible. Because of my background, I like doing field sprints when not on the elliptical or bike. After about 8 or so fairly short sprints, I have a horrible time catching my breath. Shit, I even had to use an Albuterol inhaler today because I was trying to suck in air and never felt like I was getting enough per breath. Anyways like I said, weights have been great. My first few exercises are normally pretty damn heavy compounds and then I transition into more “fine tuning” exercises. The heavy weights are going stupid. I’m not a powerlifter or Oly lifter, but have always been decently strong ~(5B, 6S, 7D). I have not been trying 1RMs at all because I always feel like I am breaking when I try but I have been lifting heavy on my rep sets. For instance, during my second chest exercise Monday I had a smooth 455. Same thing on Tuesday with legs when both squats and hacks were heavy for my 8-10rep sets. I not only just feel stronger to start but I have a great amount of intensity throughout the entire workout. You know how sometimes you’ll start to slow down in the final exercises and start being lazy? Yeah I feel great throughout. Unfortunately, I also feel somewhat nauseous toward the tail ends of my workouts and so it makes it a bit harder to eat soon after getting home. I have no issues with appetite the other times of day, but I can barely drink a shake let alone touch food for a while afterward.

So I normally sweat a lot, but recently have been at an all time high of the volume of sweat leaving my body. Not only are multiple towels required during workouts, but I cannot sit on the couch or lay down or even sit down at my computer without sweating. As a result, I have increased my water intake even more and probably hasn’t helped the sweating aspect but I feel hydrated and hate cramping so that’s nice.
One other drawback is that my sleep has been awful. I feel tired at times of the day when I shouldn’t be and just want to nap at weird times during the day. At night, I can’t fall asleep and once I do I wake up multiple times throughout the night. I know I have been trying to drink more water so I wake up and have to pee at times, but the quality is bad and I wake up wide awake and just frustrated that I’lll be sweating in bed with two fans on me and waking up wide awake for the 6th time that night. CBD oil and Somas have helped but the latter is used sparingly and CBD oil can be pretty expensive.
Even with monitoring all vitals and with BP in a good range, I get pounding headaches that I think are when any activity makes me BP shoot up. now it isn’t super high, but it is noticeable and the head discomfort I sometimes get can get annoying at times too.

Physically I look pretty good. Obviously getting dried out so the separation is definitely noticeable, especially in the back and legs, but the muscle bellies still look full. One thing I want to mention is that I like to fuck with Nandrolones at times because it gives a fullness that just makes you feel and look buff with any clothing on. Tren gives me a nice lean face which is nice, but I totally notice the thinner, shredded and full muscle look. I like it, but the body image issues makes me think I look smaller when it’s clearly not the case. I know a lot of people love that look more than any other, but I could rock the bulky full look year round and be complacent. One thing I do love is I feel like the veins are becoming noticeable more and more each day. I wake up at night or look at the legs while taking a shit and start counting even more poking out. Then in the gym they look even better from the pump! I haven’t had issues with facial acne since BEFORE I started using AAS. When I first started them, it was one of my biggest fears that my pubescent acne would come back with a vengeance. Interestingly enough, I think with keeping does consistent, the hormone levels were always kept stable enough that I never had an issue again. But the past week I noticed my back breaking out much more.I think it is probably correlated to a crazy increase in sweat at all times of day, but just another thing that has frustrated me.

Anyways, things have still been going good and have no reason to drop it all yet since I have no serious sides at the moment. I know it has only really been about a week and a half since starting, so may not be completely saturated and feeling the full onslaught of sides, but so far not too terrible. Again, I’ll get ya’ll your pictures at some point. Just remember that I am not trying to get in any show ready state, so don’t be expecting me to hit no 4%. I tried that and that was when I felt like the most awful dick of my life. Diet has been going decently well and have been treating myself to some more red meats. There really is not any specific reason to this except I have some extra coin to spend and shit I love steak.

I think that basically sums it up so far. any questions let me know. Kind of rushed through this, so if it don’t make sense I blame it on me still being retarded.

 

[Dreadlifts]

Trenbolognese" pid='43363' dateline='1551406010:

Ok so wanted to give another update as well.

I know that part of this thread is kind of getting out of hand with some arguing, but let’s keep it about the actual stuff going on. I understand the evidence that pictures provide, I really do, so if ya’ll wanting pictures, I’ll do what I can but I’m in a position where I’m not going to be putting face or other “notable” parts that are pretty unique to people that know me or have heard of me (not famous btw but yeah…). I Ain’t exactly sure how to go about it yet, but I’ve been in contact with pics to Sparta and if mods are wanting info too, that’s fine. Just wanting to throw that out there.

Ok so as for how things are going elsewhere. First off, taking that much Cialis per day gave me an insane amount of head congestion at the middle and end of the first week that lasted a couple of days. Could have definitely been a normal cold, but I am somewhat convinced it was related to the 40mg Cialis. As for the “other” side effects of Cialis, yep…obnoxious in a good way. Into the second week, the Winny does a crazy job drying me out. I’m not normally a crazy vascular person but I am liking the results so far. Again, Sparta has evidence of this.

Taking in 6ml of oil a day is obnoxious! Even with rotating sites, the minor PIP I get from the Tren Ace can be uncomfortable at times. The Test I don’t really have a problem with except the fact that I’m still dealing with 3ml of it each night. I mentioned in my first post that I always get some PIP with the acetate ester, so I’m not going to say anything about the quality being less than par since it is completely normal to me. Depending on how late I pin, it can sometimes feel like that muscle isn’t 100% fresh for the next day’s workout.

I don’t get super angry or crazy on tren. One of the most notable sides I have gotten in the past is being a bit apathetic toward people. I kind of just don’t really give a shit about others and may appear like I’m not interested in conversation. This is definitely not the norm for me since I am a friendly, social guy that loves to talk at baseline. No anger issues with the family or anything of that sort, just shit hole drivers. Little things irritate me more than anything and I definitely think that with 2g of tren per week I am not having a problem controlling it at all.

Weight training has been great. Cardio has been horrible. Because of my background, I like doing field sprints when not on the elliptical or bike. After about 8 or so fairly short sprints, I have a horrible time catching my breath. Shit, I even had to use an Albuterol inhaler today because I was trying to suck in air and never felt like I was getting enough per breath. Anyways like I said, weights have been great. My first few exercises are normally pretty damn heavy compounds and then I transition into more “fine tuning” exercises. The heavy weights are going stupid. I’m not a powerlifter or Oly lifter, but have always been decently strong ~(5B, 6S, 7D). I have not been trying 1RMs at all because I always feel like I am breaking when I try but I have been lifting heavy on my rep sets. For instance, during my second chest exercise Monday I had a smooth 455. Same thing on Tuesday with legs when both squats and hacks were heavy for my 8-10rep sets. I not only just feel stronger to start but I have a great amount of intensity throughout the entire workout. You know how sometimes you’ll start to slow down in the final exercises and start being lazy? Yeah I feel great throughout. Unfortunately, I also feel somewhat nauseous toward the tail ends of my workouts and so it makes it a bit harder to eat soon after getting home. I have no issues with appetite the other times of day, but I can barely drink a shake let alone touch food for a while afterward.

So I normally sweat a lot, but recently have been at an all time high of the volume of sweat leaving my body. Not only are multiple towels required during workouts, but I cannot sit on the couch or lay down or even sit down at my computer without sweating. As a result, I have increased my water intake even more and probably hasn’t helped the sweating aspect but I feel hydrated and hate cramping so that’s nice.
One other drawback is that my sleep has been awful. I feel tired at times of the day when I shouldn’t be and just want to nap at weird times during the day. At night, I can’t fall asleep and once I do I wake up multiple times throughout the night. I know I have been trying to drink more water so I wake up and have to pee at times, but the quality is bad and I wake up wide awake and just frustrated that I’lll be sweating in bed with two fans on me and waking up wide awake for the 6th time that night. CBD oil and Somas have helped but the latter is used sparingly and CBD oil can be pretty expensive.
Even with monitoring all vitals and with BP in a good range, I get pounding headaches that I think are when any activity makes me BP shoot up. now it isn’t super high, but it is noticeable and the head discomfort I sometimes get can get annoying at times too.

Physically I look pretty good. Obviously getting dried out so the separation is definitely noticeable, especially in the back and legs, but the muscle bellies still look full. One thing I want to mention is that I like to fuck with Nandrolones at times because it gives a fullness that just makes you feel and look buff with any clothing on. Tren gives me a nice lean face which is nice, but I totally notice the thinner, shredded and full muscle look. I like it, but the body image issues makes me think I look smaller when it’s clearly not the case. I know a lot of people love that look more than any other, but I could rock the bulky full look year round and be complacent. One thing I do love is I feel like the veins are becoming noticeable more and more each day. I wake up at night or look at the legs while taking a shit and start counting even more poking out. Then in the gym they look even better from the pump! I haven’t had issues with facial acne since BEFORE I started using AAS. When I first started them, it was one of my biggest fears that my pubescent acne would come back with a vengeance. Interestingly enough, I think with keeping does consistent, the hormone levels were always kept stable enough that I never had an issue again. But the past week I noticed my back breaking out much more.I think it is probably correlated to a crazy increase in sweat at all times of day, but just another thing that has frustrated me.

Anyways, things have still been going good and have no reason to drop it all yet since I have no serious sides at the moment. I know it has only really been about a week and a half since starting, so may not be completely saturated and feeling the full onslaught of sides, but so far not too terrible. Again, I’ll get ya’ll your pictures at some point. Just remember that I am not trying to get in any show ready state, so don’t be expecting me to hit no 4%. I tried that and that was when I felt like the most awful dick of my life. Diet has been going decently well and have been treating myself to some more red meats. There really is not any specific reason to this except I have some extra coin to spend and shit I love steak.

I think that basically sums it up so far. any questions let me know. Kind of rushed through this, so if it don’t make sense I blame it on me still being retarded.

Are you a stripper? Is that what you mean by “parts that are pretty unique to people that know me/heard of me”?

 

[Trenbolognese]

Dreadlifts" pid='44425' dateline='1552161961:

Trenbolognese" pid='43363' dateline='1551406010:

Ok so wanted to give another update as well.

I know that part of this thread is kind of getting out of hand with some arguing, but let’s keep it about the actual stuff going on. I understand the evidence that pictures provide, I really do, so if ya’ll wanting pictures, I’ll do what I can but I’m in a position where I’m not going to be putting face or other “notable” parts that are pretty unique to people that know me or have heard of me (not famous btw but yeah…). I Ain’t exactly sure how to go about it yet, but I’ve been in contact with pics to Sparta and if mods are wanting info too, that’s fine. Just wanting to throw that out there.

Ok so as for how things are going elsewhere. First off, taking that much Cialis per day gave me an insane amount of head congestion at the middle and end of the first week that lasted a couple of days. Could have definitely been a normal cold, but I am somewhat convinced it was related to the 40mg Cialis. As for the “other” side effects of Cialis, yep…obnoxious in a good way. Into the second week, the Winny does a crazy job drying me out. I’m not normally a crazy vascular person but I am liking the results so far. Again, Sparta has evidence of this.

Taking in 6ml of oil a day is obnoxious! Even with rotating sites, the minor PIP I get from the Tren Ace can be uncomfortable at times. The Test I don’t really have a problem with except the fact that I’m still dealing with 3ml of it each night. I mentioned in my first post that I always get some PIP with the acetate ester, so I’m not going to say anything about the quality being less than par since it is completely normal to me. Depending on how late I pin, it can sometimes feel like that muscle isn’t 100% fresh for the next day’s workout.

I don’t get super angry or crazy on tren. One of the most notable sides I have gotten in the past is being a bit apathetic toward people. I kind of just don’t really give a shit about others and may appear like I’m not interested in conversation. This is definitely not the norm for me since I am a friendly, social guy that loves to talk at baseline. No anger issues with the family or anything of that sort, just shit hole drivers. Little things irritate me more than anything and I definitely think that with 2g of tren per week I am not having a problem controlling it at all.

Weight training has been great. Cardio has been horrible. Because of my background, I like doing field sprints when not on the elliptical or bike. After about 8 or so fairly short sprints, I have a horrible time catching my breath. Shit, I even had to use an Albuterol inhaler today because I was trying to suck in air and never felt like I was getting enough per breath. Anyways like I said, weights have been great. My first few exercises are normally pretty damn heavy compounds and then I transition into more “fine tuning” exercises. The heavy weights are going stupid. I’m not a powerlifter or Oly lifter, but have always been decently strong ~(5B, 6S, 7D). I have not been trying 1RMs at all because I always feel like I am breaking when I try but I have been lifting heavy on my rep sets. For instance, during my second chest exercise Monday I had a smooth 455. Same thing on Tuesday with legs when both squats and hacks were heavy for my 8-10rep sets. I not only just feel stronger to start but I have a great amount of intensity throughout the entire workout. You know how sometimes you’ll start to slow down in the final exercises and start being lazy? Yeah I feel great throughout. Unfortunately, I also feel somewhat nauseous toward the tail ends of my workouts and so it makes it a bit harder to eat soon after getting home. I have no issues with appetite the other times of day, but I can barely drink a shake let alone touch food for a while afterward.

So I normally sweat a lot, but recently have been at an all time high of the volume of sweat leaving my body. Not only are multiple towels required during workouts, but I cannot sit on the couch or lay down or even sit down at my computer without sweating. As a result, I have increased my water intake even more and probably hasn’t helped the sweating aspect but I feel hydrated and hate cramping so that’s nice.
One other drawback is that my sleep has been awful. I feel tired at times of the day when I shouldn’t be and just want to nap at weird times during the day. At night, I can’t fall asleep and once I do I wake up multiple times throughout the night. I know I have been trying to drink more water so I wake up and have to pee at times, but the quality is bad and I wake up wide awake and just frustrated that I’lll be sweating in bed with two fans on me and waking up wide awake for the 6th time that night. CBD oil and Somas have helped but the latter is used sparingly and CBD oil can be pretty expensive.
Even with monitoring all vitals and with BP in a good range, I get pounding headaches that I think are when any activity makes me BP shoot up. now it isn’t super high, but it is noticeable and the head discomfort I sometimes get can get annoying at times too.

Physically I look pretty good. Obviously getting dried out so the separation is definitely noticeable, especially in the back and legs, but the muscle bellies still look full. One thing I want to mention is that I like to fuck with Nandrolones at times because it gives a fullness that just makes you feel and look buff with any clothing on. Tren gives me a nice lean face which is nice, but I totally notice the thinner, shredded and full muscle look. I like it, but the body image issues makes me think I look smaller when it’s clearly not the case. I know a lot of people love that look more than any other, but I could rock the bulky full look year round and be complacent. One thing I do love is I feel like the veins are becoming noticeable more and more each day. I wake up at night or look at the legs while taking a shit and start counting even more poking out. Then in the gym they look even better from the pump! I haven’t had issues with facial acne since BEFORE I started using AAS. When I first started them, it was one of my biggest fears that my pubescent acne would come back with a vengeance. Interestingly enough, I think with keeping does consistent, the hormone levels were always kept stable enough that I never had an issue again. But the past week I noticed my back breaking out much more.I think it is probably correlated to a crazy increase in sweat at all times of day, but just another thing that has frustrated me.

Anyways, things have still been going good and have no reason to drop it all yet since I have no serious sides at the moment. I know it has only really been about a week and a half since starting, so may not be completely saturated and feeling the full onslaught of sides, but so far not too terrible. Again, I’ll get ya’ll your pictures at some point. Just remember that I am not trying to get in any show ready state, so don’t be expecting me to hit no 4%. I tried that and that was when I felt like the most awful dick of my life. Diet has been going decently well and have been treating myself to some more red meats. There really is not any specific reason to this except I have some extra coin to spend and shit I love steak.

I think that basically sums it up so far. any questions let me know. Kind of rushed through this, so if it don’t make sense I blame it on me still being retarded.

Are you a stripper? Is that what you mean by “parts that are pretty unique to people that know me/heard of me”?

Lmao. Nah. I had a weird ass leg injury that makes the scar look recognizable to people that met me when I was played sports not too long ago. Hell, if I could strip I would blast tren 24/7/365 and work every night. Haha

 

[Dreadlifts]

Trenbolognese" pid='44515' dateline='1552254143:

Dreadlifts" pid='44425' dateline='1552161961:

Trenbolognese" pid='43363' dateline='1551406010:

Ok so wanted to give another update as well.

I know that part of this thread is kind of getting out of hand with some arguing, but let’s keep it about the actual stuff going on. I understand the evidence that pictures provide, I really do, so if ya’ll wanting pictures, I’ll do what I can but I’m in a position where I’m not going to be putting face or other “notable” parts that are pretty unique to people that know me or have heard of me (not famous btw but yeah…). I Ain’t exactly sure how to go about it yet, but I’ve been in contact with pics to Sparta and if mods are wanting info too, that’s fine. Just wanting to throw that out there.

Ok so as for how things are going elsewhere. First off, taking that much Cialis per day gave me an insane amount of head congestion at the middle and end of the first week that lasted a couple of days. Could have definitely been a normal cold, but I am somewhat convinced it was related to the 40mg Cialis. As for the “other” side effects of Cialis, yep…obnoxious in a good way. Into the second week, the Winny does a crazy job drying me out. I’m not normally a crazy vascular person but I am liking the results so far. Again, Sparta has evidence of this.

Taking in 6ml of oil a day is obnoxious! Even with rotating sites, the minor PIP I get from the Tren Ace can be uncomfortable at times. The Test I don’t really have a problem with except the fact that I’m still dealing with 3ml of it each night. I mentioned in my first post that I always get some PIP with the acetate ester, so I’m not going to say anything about the quality being less than par since it is completely normal to me. Depending on how late I pin, it can sometimes feel like that muscle isn’t 100% fresh for the next day’s workout.

I don’t get super angry or crazy on tren. One of the most notable sides I have gotten in the past is being a bit apathetic toward people. I kind of just don’t really give a shit about others and may appear like I’m not interested in conversation. This is definitely not the norm for me since I am a friendly, social guy that loves to talk at baseline. No anger issues with the family or anything of that sort, just shit hole drivers. Little things irritate me more than anything and I definitely think that with 2g of tren per week I am not having a problem controlling it at all.

Weight training has been great. Cardio has been horrible. Because of my background, I like doing field sprints when not on the elliptical or bike. After about 8 or so fairly short sprints, I have a horrible time catching my breath. Shit, I even had to use an Albuterol inhaler today because I was trying to suck in air and never felt like I was getting enough per breath. Anyways like I said, weights have been great. My first few exercises are normally pretty damn heavy compounds and then I transition into more “fine tuning” exercises. The heavy weights are going stupid. I’m not a powerlifter or Oly lifter, but have always been decently strong ~(5B, 6S, 7D). I have not been trying 1RMs at all because I always feel like I am breaking when I try but I have been lifting heavy on my rep sets. For instance, during my second chest exercise Monday I had a smooth 455. Same thing on Tuesday with legs when both squats and hacks were heavy for my 8-10rep sets. I not only just feel stronger to start but I have a great amount of intensity throughout the entire workout. You know how sometimes you’ll start to slow down in the final exercises and start being lazy? Yeah I feel great throughout. Unfortunately, I also feel somewhat nauseous toward the tail ends of my workouts and so it makes it a bit harder to eat soon after getting home. I have no issues with appetite the other times of day, but I can barely drink a shake let alone touch food for a while afterward.

So I normally sweat a lot, but recently have been at an all time high of the volume of sweat leaving my body. Not only are multiple towels required during workouts, but I cannot sit on the couch or lay down or even sit down at my computer without sweating. As a result, I have increased my water intake even more and probably hasn’t helped the sweating aspect but I feel hydrated and hate cramping so that’s nice.
One other drawback is that my sleep has been awful. I feel tired at times of the day when I shouldn’t be and just want to nap at weird times during the day. At night, I can’t fall asleep and once I do I wake up multiple times throughout the night. I know I have been trying to drink more water so I wake up and have to pee at times, but the quality is bad and I wake up wide awake and just frustrated that I’lll be sweating in bed with two fans on me and waking up wide awake for the 6th time that night. CBD oil and Somas have helped but the latter is used sparingly and CBD oil can be pretty expensive.
Even with monitoring all vitals and with BP in a good range, I get pounding headaches that I think are when any activity makes me BP shoot up. now it isn’t super high, but it is noticeable and the head discomfort I sometimes get can get annoying at times too.

Physically I look pretty good. Obviously getting dried out so the separation is definitely noticeable, especially in the back and legs, but the muscle bellies still look full. One thing I want to mention is that I like to fuck with Nandrolones at times because it gives a fullness that just makes you feel and look buff with any clothing on. Tren gives me a nice lean face which is nice, but I totally notice the thinner, shredded and full muscle look. I like it, but the body image issues makes me think I look smaller when it’s clearly not the case. I know a lot of people love that look more than any other, but I could rock the bulky full look year round and be complacent. One thing I do love is I feel like the veins are becoming noticeable more and more each day. I wake up at night or look at the legs while taking a shit and start counting even more poking out. Then in the gym they look even better from the pump! I haven’t had issues with facial acne since BEFORE I started using AAS. When I first started them, it was one of my biggest fears that my pubescent acne would come back with a vengeance. Interestingly enough, I think with keeping does consistent, the hormone levels were always kept stable enough that I never had an issue again. But the past week I noticed my back breaking out much more.I think it is probably correlated to a crazy increase in sweat at all times of day, but just another thing that has frustrated me.

Anyways, things have still been going good and have no reason to drop it all yet since I have no serious sides at the moment. I know it has only really been about a week and a half since starting, so may not be completely saturated and feeling the full onslaught of sides, but so far not too terrible. Again, I’ll get ya’ll your pictures at some point. Just remember that I am not trying to get in any show ready state, so don’t be expecting me to hit no 4%. I tried that and that was when I felt like the most awful dick of my life. Diet has been going decently well and have been treating myself to some more red meats. There really is not any specific reason to this except I have some extra coin to spend and shit I love steak.

I think that basically sums it up so far. any questions let me know. Kind of rushed through this, so if it don’t make sense I blame it on me still being retarded.

Are you a stripper? Is that what you mean by “parts that are pretty unique to people that know me/heard of me”?

Lmao. Nah. I had a weird ass leg injury that makes the scar look recognizable to people that met me when I was played sports not too long ago. Hell, if I could strip I would blast tren 24/7/365 and work every night. Haha

Oh…unfortunately