Thoughts on self managed TRT to maintain levels in between 900 - 1000 ng/dL at all times, for life?

[mitochondrialregeneration]

Curious on the thoughts of experienced TRT folks, with a few years self TRT use and experience with different TRT dosages, also obviously experience with supraphysiological levels such as running cycles of 500mg test enanthate/cypionate weekly.
Obviously will be monitoring CBC labs , liver enzymes (AST/ALT), lipids, BP, etc.

Have you done this/do this personally?

How do you feel compared to when completely natty?

What were your test levels prior? ng/dL?

Do you occasionally run "cycles" on top, such as maybe 8 weeks of anavar on top? Or maybe even just bumping test e/c dosage back up to 500mg or so?

How long have you been doing it? Any advice?

What are some personal experiences you have that are maybe unique to this topic?

Looking forward to active discussion.

 

[bottomfeeder(52)]

this is really just doing what any HRT clinic prescribes and has you do except on your own. bloods 2-4x a year, donate if you need to, avoid AI if you can, etc. all the same stuff.

 

[mitochondrialregeneration]

this is really just doing what any HRT clinic prescribes and has you do except on your own. bloods 2-4x a year, donate if you need to, avoid AI if you can, etc. all the same stuff.

Could you elaborate on your personal experience? Specifically how you feel when your levels are ~900 ng/dL compared to supraphysiological with something like a 500mg test blast?

 

[bottomfeeder(52)]

Could you elaborate on your personal experience? Specifically how you feel when your levels are ~900 ng/dL compared to supraphysiological with something like a 500mg test blast?

not as much bloat or need for AI, not as much pump/glycogen walking around, sex drive is more than natty but not as much as on 500 for sure. not sure what else I can say. it’s not like I ever felt super amazing on 500 like you feel when you take tren. it’s not like a cure all if sleep or diet sucks you’ll still have a bad session, but it gives you a buffer where the bad days aren’t as bad as they would be if you’re natty. less sweating on 200 than 500 but still more

for reference I take 200mg a week with a super small AI dose after each pin and it puts me 800-1200 ng/dl trough. was considering dropping to 150 or 125 so I don’t need AI.

 

[mitochondrialregeneration]

not as much bloat or need for AI, not as much pump/glycogen walking around, sex drive is more than natty but not as much as on 500 for sure. not sure what else I can say. it’s not like I ever felt super amazing on 500 like you feel when you take tren. it’s not like a cure all if sleep or diet sucks you’ll still have a bad session, but it gives you a buffer where the bad days aren’t as bad as they would be if you’re natty. less sweating on 200 than 500 but still more

for reference I take 200mg a week with a super small AI dose after each pin and it puts me 800-1200 ng/dl trough. was considering dropping to 150 or 125 so I don’t need AI.

How do your energy levels vary?

 

[Deleted member 21405]

It's not complicated at all and really just comes down to how much money you want to throw away. This UGL life ALL leads to self administered TRT. So hop on board brother the trains moving and you have a ticket lol

On 200mg of test I feel normal unless my estrogen is fucked which often it is lately, but just got some pharma arimidex to help with that and will increase to 1mg a week for a while. When on 400-500 I don't feel amazing, but good. 600 I start having a lot of estrogen management issues.

One of the best years of my life I just ran a straight 250 year round. I felt good. Made lean gains all year. No AI.

Your results will vary.

 

[Harbenger]

As VV said, you've got a ticket so get on the train.

As for me personally I use 400 to 500mg of Test E every week and I feel good. If I feel my estrogen is getting high I do nibble on some AI, about once a week or maybe twice.
I occasionally throw in some NPP for about 6 to 8 wks, along with some Anavar or Winny or similar oral for 4 wks. There have been times, like right now, where I am not using an oral.

I just do not feel as good if I go lower and I have tried it.

Your mileage will vary, the only real way to find out is to test your theory.

 

[Metflex17]

Love this thread, I’m in the same boat. Been on 210-280mg test cyp per week for a year. E2 in the 70’s when cruising at 210, but only real noticeable side effect is some chest acne. Doing a 10 week blast now up from 210mg per week. At 300mg with 50mg var and adding in 100mg primo this week for the next 8 weeks to help manage e2. After this, will cruise through summer at 175-200, wherever keeps me comfortable but minimizes the chest breakout.

 

[Deleted member 21405]

Love this thread, I’m in the same boat. Been on 210-280mg test cyp per week for a year. E2 in the 70’s when cruising at 210, but only real noticeable side effect is some chest acne. Doing a 10 week blast now up from 210mg per week. At 300mg with 50mg var and adding in 100mg primo this week for the next 8 weeks to help manage e2. After this, will cruise through summer at 175-200, wherever keeps me comfortable but minimizes the chest breakout.

As VV said, you've got a ticket so get on the train.

As for me personally I use 400 to 500mg of Test E every week and I feel good. If I feel my estrogen is getting high I do nibble on some AI, about once a week or maybe twice.
I occasionally throw in some NPP for about 6 to 8 wks, along with some Anavar or Winny or similar oral for 4 wks. There have been times, like right now, where I am not using an oral.

I just do not feel as good if I go lower and I have tried it.

Your mileage will vary, the only real way to find out is to test your theory.

I've tried to come off and failed. Been on too long. Hello my brothers

 

[Metflex17]

I’m honestly not looking to get huge, or compete in any shows, just looking to lead a better and healthier life, and get what I should from the work I put in. I was sub 300 test levels at 43, and I felt it. Now I feel good, look good, and I’m having fun again in the gym.

Just need to get this chest acne and achy shoulder under control.

 

[bluescat510]

Curious on the thoughts of experienced TRT folks, with a few years self TRT use and experience with different TRT dosages, also obviously experience with supraphysiological levels such as running cycles of 500mg test enanthate/cypionate weekly.
Obviously will be monitoring CBC labs , liver enzymes (AST/ALT), lipids, BP, etc.

Have you done this/do this personally?

How do you feel compared to when completely natty?

What were your test levels prior? ng/dL?

Do you occasionally run "cycles" on top, such as maybe 8 weeks of anavar on top? Or maybe even just bumping test e/c dosage back up to 500mg or so?

How long have you been doing it? Any advice?

What are some personal experiences you have that are maybe unique to this topic?

Looking forward to active discussion.

Blast and cruised for 5 years and been on TRT 5 years and going.

I feel like a college aged natty but nothing compared to when on cycle (obviously). Sleep is good, can focus on work/school, appetite isn't affected, health markers always within range.

I aim for slightly below 1000 ng/dL. Test-E, 75mg E5D put me in 900's when I draw bloods on the 4th day. Ran same dose but pinned E7D using same UGL, drew bloods at day 6 and ng/dL was at 600's. Since then, I switched over to Test-U and pin 100mg once per week. Haven't taken private bloods but get labs done through my doctor (lipids, CBC, etc).

I haven't ran a cycle for 5 years, strictly TRT test with goal of not exceeding 1100 ng/dL/

Advice: Not all UGL dose their test vials the same. I been using the same UGL for 7 years and one batch they overdosed test-e so much that I was in the 1400 ng/dL range on 75mg. Would be perfect for a blast but not someone finding that sweet TRT dosage. Keep PCT and AI on deck at all times. Get blood work done. Control estrogen with minor doses of AI if needed. Don't throw in orals or baby doses of another compound and convince yourself its "TRT", you're blasting at that point.

Personal exp: Grab Test-U. Longer half life for times when you have to travel and don't want to fly with pins. Use steroid calculator to graph out doses, half lives, etc.