TREN- will I die?

[unclecurley]

So many dumb questions, and I have done lots of research. Let me ask my 3 dumbest.

1.) anyone used LnL Tren A? Did you die? Did u gainz?

2.) First time using Tren. 500mg Test C / 350mg Tren A week? or 150mg Test C / 300-350mg Tren A each week (will pin every day)

3.) How long can/should I run tren for? Seems like most people start to die after 6-8 weeks. Do you cycle high test (500mg) for the first 6 weeks (of a 12 week cycle) then add the Tren A for the last 6 weeks (and maybe drop the test or maybe not depending on your answer to question #2)

4.) Will I die? jk, will run Tren A and jump off if it goes poorly. Goals are to do some recomp/lean gainz, stay dry.

THANKS!!

 

[Colaboyy]

unclecurley" pid='40250' dateline='1549334272:

So many dumb questions, and I have done lots of research. Let me ask my 3 dumbest.

1.) anyone used LnL Tren A? Did you die? Did u gainz?

2.) First time using Tren. 500mg Test C / 350mg Tren A week? or 150mg Test C / 300-350mg Tren A each week (will pin every day)

3.) How long can/should I run tren for? Seems like most people start to die after 6-8 weeks. Do you cycle high test (500mg) for the first 6 weeks (of a 12 week cycle) then add the Tren A for the last 6 weeks (and maybe drop the test or maybe not depending on your answer to question #2)

4.) Will I die? jk, will run Tren A and jump off if it goes poorly. Goals are to do some recomp/lean gainz, stay dry.

THANKS!!

I prefer to run tren higher than test during cuts/recomps typically a 1:3 ratio. Helps keep me dry without any bloat, which gives me a lot more confidence during the cut.
Have also run a cycle of high test high tren basically 1:1 during a bulk, ended up pretty bloated and lost a lot of hair, from my personal experience I definitely wouldn’t recommend this.

 

[DNPstoney]

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So many dumb questions, and I have done lots of research. Let me ask my 3 dumbest.

1.) anyone used LnL Tren A? Did you die? Did u gainz?

2.) First time using Tren. 500mg Test C / 350mg Tren A week? or 150mg Test C / 300-350mg Tren A each week (will pin every day)

3.) How long can/should I run tren for? Seems like most people start to die after 6-8 weeks. Do you cycle high test (500mg) for the first 6 weeks (of a 12 week cycle) then add the Tren A for the last 6 weeks (and maybe drop the test or maybe not depending on your answer to question #2)

4.) Will I die? jk, will run Tren A and jump off if it goes poorly. Goals are to do some recomp/lean gainz, stay dry.

THANKS!!

1. Pretty sure everyone that has used LnL’s Tren A is dead man. Even looking at it is pretty dangerous; you are on death row man.
2. It depends what you are trying to do. If you are trying to recomp or bulk, 500/350 is good. If you are trying to straight cut, 150/350 would be good. I would go for 350 rather than 300, just because it is easier to dose consistantly.
3. You can run Tren for 12-16 weeks if you want. But for starting, yeah, 6-8 weeks of lowish dose is smart. Since it’s Tren A, you will be able to drop it whenever the sides get too much to handle. Everyone is different, but I don’t get any real psychological sides from Tren. A bit hornier and kinkier, but not the stuff a lot of guys talk about experiencing.
4. For a recomp, I would probably look at a 1:1 Test/Tren setup. But since you are using Test C and Tren A, I would go 400-500 Test C and 350 Tren A. Cyp is a heavier ester, so their is less active hormone compared to Ace.

Tren is one of my favorite compounds; probably #2 to Test. Good luck man, hope it goes well for you.

 

[chazbones]

What is all the dying chat?! I have never used Tren either and was hoping to in the future, but what are the main negative sides that people experience? Also, is Tren E tolerated any better? or is it same and just lasts longer?

 

[Hopeisfading]

I’ve used Tren many times. Haven’t died yet. Currently running it. Doing 600 Test P 600 Tren A and 600 Mast P a week. Wonderful stack. Everytime I do it I’m amazed at what Tren can do. I never look better. I honestly haven’t had any of the side effects, except Tren cough and night sweats. But I actually like the night sweats. Not during it. But those days I wake up so lean. It’s usually one of those days where I look in the mirror and say damn Tren is the shit.

 

[appropionate]

Posting “I’ve done lots of research” followed by questions that clearly show no research being done at all makes me wanna cripple you with a bolde cyp & liquid winny pin to the face. Read the SST wiki + compound experience threads which will answer all of your questions. combat learned helplessness, especially when you’re about to do something as irresponsible as pinning tren.

 

[Hopeisfading]

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What is all the dying chat?! I have never used Tren either and was hoping to in the future, but what are the main negative sides that people experience? Also, is Tren E tolerated any better? or is it same and just lasts longer?

Sides can be just like any other AAS. BP issues, cholesterol messed up. But Tren related sides are sometimes insomnia, night sweats and Tren cough. Some people say they flip out or get angry easier on Tren. But I’ve never had that happen. I am lucky like I said above I’ve only gotten the cough and night sweats.

Tren E…people will usually say try Tren A first cause if u don’t like the side effects and need to stop it. Tren A is out of your system faster. With Tren E it can take a while for it to clear cause of the longer ester. But I’ve read they act the same.

 

[unclecurley]

Thanks for all your insight @“DNPstoney” and @“Colaboyy”

I was exaggerating/kidding about “dying on tren” just a little razz and humor.

There is much debate on high tren/low test vs. low tren/high test. What I am really curious about.

I am aware of the sides and have my ancillaries on hand, bloodwork all the time,baselines, mid cycles, etc etc.

To the guy @“appropionate” I really have to wonder why you come in a a forum called “DUMB QUESTIONS” and then try and shame people for asking questions. What’s your motive? Just a strong troll game? Believe you me, I am on Reddit 20 hours a day, I’ve read all the threads, I wanted to ask some heads on SST, this is a forum too.

There is so much hype on Tren, one must really wonder about it.

Cheers everyone, looking forward to rewarding my curiosity.

 

[Heavyweightmover]

For me it’s the sleep deprivation that gets me after a month or two. I can handle the heartburn and the blood pressure, but I notice myself getting agitated due to not sleeping. You will wake up a bunch during the middle of the night. Even when you do sleep it’s not the same quality as when you’re off tren. Even if you lay in bed for 8 hours you may only be getting 1-2 hours of sleep. You think you’re eyes are closed but you body is awake and you’re mind is racing with horny and angry thoughts. After 2 months of getting 2 hours of sleep a night you’ll realize you need to come off and restore you’re sleep cycle and mental health.

 

[Storm1800]

Worst things on tren for me:

Bad hair and no sleep

Great dry gains tho

 

[yelruP]

If you haven’t run tren before I suggest you start low. I did 140mg a week and saw amazing results. You can always up the dose if you tolerate it well. Never used LnL tren but Sparta and winter both have great fucking tren ace

 

[unclecurley]

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If you haven’t run tren before I suggest you start low. I did 140mg a week and saw amazing results. You can always up the dose if you tolerate it well. Never used LnL tren but Sparta and winter both have great fucking tren ace

Thanks bro, yeah I am a fan of only trying one new compound at a time (with Test base of course) and starting with smaller doses.

I’m heavily considering running my Test C at 500mg/week and I could start the Tren A at 140-150/wk and keep up it 50mg/wk That’s not a bad idea and I didn’t think about that. Which is why I love this board.

I’m running Winter’s Test right now, and I really wanted to jump on the Sparta train but both were sold out of Tren A! Ha! LnL seems pretty O.G. on here, but didn’t find tons of reviews about Lacey’s tren. I’m sure it’s g2g

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Heavyweightmover" pid='40317' dateline='1549377345:

For me it’s the sleep deprivation that gets me after a month or two. I can handle the heartburn and the blood pressure, but I notice myself getting agitated due to not sleeping. You will wake up a bunch during the middle of the night. Even when you do sleep it’s not the same quality as when you’re off tren. Even if you lay in bed for 8 hours you may only be getting 1-2 hours of sleep. You think you’re eyes are closed but you body is awake and you’re mind is racing with horny and angry thoughts. After 2 months of getting 2 hours of sleep a night you’ll realize you need to come off and restore you’re sleep cycle and mental health.

Jeez, what’s the antidote? Just lay there and pray to Jesus for some shut eye? I have heard melatonin might help. Sounds pretty aweful, I already sleep like shit and wake up to piss every 3-4 hours!

 

[DNPstoney]

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Thanks for all your insight @“DNPstoney” and @“Colaboyy”

I was exaggerating/kidding about “dying on tren” just a little razz and humor.

There is much debate on high tren/low test vs. low tren/high test. What I am really curious about.

I am aware of the sides and have my ancillaries on hand, bloodwork all the time,baselines, mid cycles, etc etc.

To the guy @“appropionate” I really have to wonder why you come in a a forum called “DUMB QUESTIONS” and then try and shame people for asking questions. What’s your motive? Just a strong troll game? Believe you me, I am on Reddit 20 hours a day, I’ve read all the threads, I wanted to ask some heads on SST, this is a forum too.

There is so much hype on Tren, one must really wonder about it.

Cheers everyone, looking forward to rewarding my curiosity.

Assuming by ancillaries you mean Caber or Prami on hand. I don’t have issues with prolactin, but you want those just to be safe.

Also, Tren A is more likely to cause Tren cough than Tren E IME.

 

[yelruP]

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If you haven’t run tren before I suggest you start low. I did 140mg a week and saw amazing results. You can always up the dose if you tolerate it well. Never used LnL tren but Sparta and winter both have great fucking tren ace

Thanks bro, yeah I am a fan of only trying one new compound at a time (with Test base of course) and starting with smaller doses.

I’m heavily considering running my Test C at 500mg/week and I could start the Tren A at 140-150/wk and keep up it 50mg/wk That’s not a bad idea and I didn’t think about that. Which is why I love this board.

I’m running Winter’s Test right now, and I really wanted to jump on the Sparta train but both were sold out of Tren A! Ha! LnL seems pretty O.G. on here, but didn’t find tons of reviews about Lacey’s tren. I’m sure it’s g2g

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Heavyweightmover" pid='40317' dateline='1549377345:

For me it’s the sleep deprivation that gets me after a month or two. I can handle the heartburn and the blood pressure, but I notice myself getting agitated due to not sleeping. You will wake up a bunch during the middle of the night. Even when you do sleep it’s not the same quality as when you’re off tren. Even if you lay in bed for 8 hours you may only be getting 1-2 hours of sleep. You think you’re eyes are closed but you body is awake and you’re mind is racing with horny and angry thoughts. After 2 months of getting 2 hours of sleep a night you’ll realize you need to come off and restore you’re sleep cycle and mental health.

Jeez, what’s the antidote? Just lay there and pray to Jesus for some shut eye? I have heard melatonin might help. Sounds pretty aweful, I already sleep like shit and wake up to piss every 3-4 hours!

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I’m sure LNL has great tren also. I used Lacey’s test p and it was smooth as butter.

 

[Hopeisfading]

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yelruP" pid='40322' dateline='1549379207:

If you haven’t run tren before I suggest you start low. I did 140mg a week and saw amazing results. You can always up the dose if you tolerate it well. Never used LnL tren but Sparta and winter both have great fucking tren ace

Thanks bro, yeah I am a fan of only trying one new compound at a time (with Test base of course) and starting with smaller doses.

I’m heavily considering running my Test C at 500mg/week and I could start the Tren A at 140-150/wk and keep up it 50mg/wk That’s not a bad idea and I didn’t think about that. Which is why I love this board.

I’m running Winter’s Test right now, and I really wanted to jump on the Sparta train but both were sold out of Tren A! Ha! LnL seems pretty O.G. on here, but didn’t find tons of reviews about Lacey’s tren. I’m sure it’s g2g

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Heavyweightmover" pid='40317' dateline='1549377345:

For me it’s the sleep deprivation that gets me after a month or two. I can handle the heartburn and the blood pressure, but I notice myself getting agitated due to not sleeping. You will wake up a bunch during the middle of the night. Even when you do sleep it’s not the same quality as when you’re off tren. Even if you lay in bed for 8 hours you may only be getting 1-2 hours of sleep. You think you’re eyes are closed but you body is awake and you’re mind is racing with horny and angry thoughts. After 2 months of getting 2 hours of sleep a night you’ll realize you need to come off and restore you’re sleep cycle and mental health.

Jeez, what’s the antidote? Just lay there and pray to Jesus for some shut eye? I have heard melatonin might help. Sounds pretty aweful, I already sleep like shit and wake up to piss every 3-4 hours!

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My antidote for the insomnia is Ambien. I’ve never had the insomnia from Tren but that very well may be because I take Ambien. Only downside to Ambien is I wake up in the middle of the night starving…and it’s usually for terrible food. Lol. Lots of times I’ll make a protein shake with milk and ice that fills up 2 cups. And that keeps me full for the night.

 

[unclecurley]

I don’t think I’m going to play with ambien, that shits pretty hard core, mitigating sides of a hard core drug with another one is pretty wicked. Ask me how I know! You ever do so much cocaine you can’t sleep so you take some xanax to go to pass out welp

I am however, taking @“yelruP” 's advice and going to start my dosing tomorrow at 140mg/wk (keeping test at 500mg/wk) and then up the tren 20mg a week until I hit 300-340mg. Then sadly dropping back to cruise. I think it’s a great idea to dip my toe in the water.

You guys are awesome, I’ll update if I die

 

[yelruP]

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I don’t think I’m going to play with ambien, that shits pretty hard core, mitigating sides of a hard core drug with another one is pretty wicked. Ask me how I know! You ever do so much cocaine you can’t sleep so you take some xanax to go to pass out welp

I am however, taking @“yelruP” 's advice and going to start my dosing tomorrow at 140mg/wk (keeping test at 500mg/wk) and then up the tren 20mg a week until I hit 300-340mg. Then sadly dropping back to cruise. I think it’s a great idea to dip my toe in the water.

You guys are awesome, I’ll update if I die

If you die I’ll take your leftover tren. Are you pinning ED? I found that helped a lot controlling sides. Also I found pinning early AM prevented nightsweats. If I pinned after lunch time I’d sweat profusely all day and night. Keep us updated man!

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

unclecurley" pid='40250' dateline='1549334272:

So many dumb questions, and I have done lots of research. Let me ask my 3 dumbest.

1.) anyone used LnL Tren A? Did you die? Did u gainz?

2.) First time using Tren. 500mg Test C / 350mg Tren A week? or 150mg Test C / 300-350mg Tren A each week (will pin every day)

3.) How long can/should I run tren for? Seems like most people start to die after 6-8 weeks. Do you cycle high test (500mg) for the first 6 weeks (of a 12 week cycle) then add the Tren A for the last 6 weeks (and maybe drop the test or maybe not depending on your answer to question #2)

4.) Will I die? jk, will run Tren A and jump off if it goes poorly. Goals are to do some recomp/lean gainz, stay dry.

THANKS!!

1. Yes, but only after going above 700mg/wk. I came back though, stronger and meaner
2. I do strength sports, so I go high test, higher tren+nand, but if you’re into men’s bikini or something, I would keep test to sub 300/wk
3. The thing with tren is, you don’t decide how long you run it, the Tren decides how long you run it. I typically make it past 16 weeks but then it is a total crapshoot.
4. Only if you are willing to do whatever it takes.

Bonus: if you want to looks stupid vascular add 100mg of var per day and 25-50/5-10mg of viagra/cialis, you’ll look like a retarded penis.

 

[unclecurley]

Yoooo @“Brochacho_Prime” I have too much var sitting around so I will take, and the boner pills, which I have enough for an apocalyptic swingers party, so maybe I’ll skip mixing the ambien, but would be fun and not gay to how much I can emulate looking like dick. Deadass, I’m going to try that towards the middle/end of the tren run. thanks for the tip, just the tip.

@“yelruP” yes, pinning everyday, between 6-7am. I’m drafting my living will now, but hoping you will not need to inherent my tren and gainz. The good lord up above knows I need them sweet sweet gainz!! I deserve them God!!!