Turinabol

[djmill12]

Has anyone seen the this new youtube video called, “Jon Jones, USADA and the Pringles Defense” by MixedMollyWhoppery? If you’re a UFC or sports fan I think you’ll find it pretty fascinating! It seems that no one, including every expert on steroids and pharmacology, biochemistry, etc., can figure out whether or not Jones has continuously been using Turinabol, even with the ton of testing on him. Or the consequences of getting involved could have serious repercussions since apparently little is known about it. From what I’ve read and experienced, it’s very mild but has it’s uses, particularly in sports. I just find it interesting that it’s the only AAS metabolite that has been found in his system, fluctuating up and down, over and over again, now for years. It almost seems like he’s just using very small doses of it long term. Seems like such a big risk for such a small advantage but I guess that’s where the mystery lies. To anyone that has used it, were there any things that stood out about it for you?

 

[system]

It wouldn’t make sense for him (or any athlete) to have his natural testosterone production shut down just for microscopic amounts of tbol. He’d arguably even see regression at some point once his natural levels get low enough as such small amounts of tbol simply wouldn’t yield enough benefits to counteract the negatives of having your natural testosterone shut down. There would have to be a way to entirely prevent suppression (without detection) to make this plausible.

 

[Angrycrabs207]

I read somewhere about gut bacteria doing some weird shit and possibly excreting metabolites or analogues for known steroid compounds, trying to dig it up now.

 

[Heavyweightmover]

He’s failed multiple times for letro, clomid, and tbol. Also including him popping for cocaine. He blamed his viagra and coke was cut with steroids. Seeing how most sources here make viagra as well as steroids I can see how your dick pills could get contaminated. Regardless if that’s the case he still failed. They’re saying this is a “long term metabolite” of turanibol and has to be from years ago since they only found 60 picograms (60x10^-12) this is absolutely false. If you google half life calculator and plug in 20 mg of tbol with a 16 hour half-life you can get to picograms within 19 days. I’m sure most fighters are taking stuff and I don’t blame them for wanting to be at peak performance when attempting to dodge punches to the head. I’m a huge fan of the KSW polish league where the juice heads are free to get swole, bodybuilder Martyn Ford is fighting soon. They are covering for Jon but at this point it doesn’t matter. I wish they would let them all juice and we see the best fighters with the least injuries and quickest recovery going at it.

 

[djmill12]

Heavyweightmover" pid='36555' dateline='1547012865:

He’s failed multiple times for letro, clomid, and tbol. Also including him popping for cocaine. He blamed his viagra and coke was cut with steroids. Seeing how most sources here make viagra as well as steroids I can see how your dick pills could get contaminated. Regardless if that’s the case he still failed. They’re saying this is a “long term metabolite” of turanibol and has to be from years ago since they only found 60 picograms (60x10^-12) this is absolutely false. If you google half life calculator and plug in 20 mg of tbol with a 16 hour half-life you can get to picograms within 19 days. I’m sure most fighters are taking stuff and I don’t blame them for wanting to be at peak performance when attempting to dodge punches to the head. I’m a huge fan of the KSI polish league where the juice heads are free to get swole, bodybuilder Martyn Ford is fighting soon. They are covering for Jon but at this point it doesn’t matter. I wish they would let them all juice and we see the best fighters with the least injuries and quickest recovery going at it.

Lol, yes, I must admit I miss the old days of “TRT Belfort” and “Alistair OverROID”!

 

[Tony_Parks]

I don’t think enough is known about turinabol to be able to say what really happened. Keep in mind the test isn’t like a DNA test, where there is a match or there isn’t. Someone determined that turinabol has certain metabolites. To what extent has that been confirmed through additional testing? And has it been confirmed through testing that those metabolites are unique to turinabol? Also note that GC MS testing can, through the testing process, create compounds that weren’t in the original sample. The sample is heated to turn it into a gas, and that process can do strange things. And to add to the complexity, samples are sometimes put through a process known as derivatization in order to make them suitable for testing. Who knows what the effect of the heating (GC) process or the derivatization process (if one was performed) are on certain compounds such that what appear to be turinabol metabolites end up in the results. I have no idea whether he was using turinabol or not, but neither do the people who did the testing. Too many unknowns.

 

[yelruP]

Heavyweightmover" pid='36555' dateline='1547012865:

He’s failed multiple times for letro, clomid, and tbol. Also including him popping for cocaine. He blamed his viagra and coke was cut with steroids. Seeing how most sources here make viagra as well as steroids I can see how your dick pills could get contaminated. Regardless if that’s the case he still failed. They’re saying this is a “long term metabolite” of turanibol and has to be from years ago since they only found 60 picograms (60x10^-12) this is absolutely false. If you google half life calculator and plug in 20 mg of tbol with a 16 hour half-life you can get to picograms within 19 days. I’m sure most fighters are taking stuff and I don’t blame them for wanting to be at peak performance when attempting to dodge punches to the head. I’m a huge fan of the KSI polish league where the juice heads are free to get swole, bodybuilder Martyn Ford is fighting soon. They are covering for Jon but at this point it doesn’t matter. I wish they would let them all juice and we see the best fighters with the least injuries and quickest recovery going at it.

You mean KSW my guy I love watching pudzianowski (exworlds strongest man) who is clearly on a lot of shit fight other people also on a lot of shit. I think mma casuals are retarded though. They all think jon Jones is microdosing tbol lmfao. No point in that whatsoever.

 

[faaaack]

He’s been using it and got caught multiple times. Frank Mir got suspended for less in his system than Jones just got a pass for.

 

[Heavyweightmover]

yelruP" pid='36631' dateline='1547074070:

Heavyweightmover" pid='36555' dateline='1547012865:

He’s failed multiple times for letro, clomid, and tbol. Also including him popping for cocaine. He blamed his viagra and coke was cut with steroids. Seeing how most sources here make viagra as well as steroids I can see how your dick pills could get contaminated. Regardless if that’s the case he still failed. They’re saying this is a “long term metabolite” of turanibol and has to be from years ago since they only found 60 picograms (60x10^-12) this is absolutely false. If you google half life calculator and plug in 20 mg of tbol with a 16 hour half-life you can get to picograms within 19 days. I’m sure most fighters are taking stuff and I don’t blame them for wanting to be at peak performance when attempting to dodge punches to the head. I’m a huge fan of the KSI polish league where the juice heads are free to get swole, bodybuilder Martyn Ford is fighting soon. They are covering for Jon but at this point it doesn’t matter. I wish they would let them all juice and we see the best fighters with the least injuries and quickest recovery going at it.

You mean KSW my guy I love watching pudzianowski (exworlds strongest man) who is clearly on a lot of shit fight other people also on a lot of shit. I think mma casuals are retarded though. They all think jon Jones is microdosing tbol lmfao. No point in that whatsoever.

Yes haha. Pudz is a beast. They’re promo videos are ridiculously terrible that they are amazing. I think I saw a reddit post about KSI the rapper and must of subconsciously changed KSW. I’ll edit the post in case people wanna look up the great steroid league of fighting.

 

[chrysler211]

Heavyweightmover" pid='36555' dateline='1547012865:

He’s failed multiple times for letro, clomid, and tbol. Also including him popping for cocaine. He blamed his viagra and coke was cut with steroids. Seeing how most sources here make viagra as well as steroids I can see how your dick pills could get contaminated. Regardless if that’s the case he still failed. They’re saying this is a “long term metabolite” of turanibol and has to be from years ago since they only found 60 picograms (60x10^-12) this is absolutely false. If you google half life calculator and plug in 20 mg of tbol with a 16 hour half-life you can get to picograms within 19 days. I’m sure most fighters are taking stuff and I don’t blame them for wanting to be at peak performance when attempting to dodge punches to the head. I’m a huge fan of the KSW polish league where the juice heads are free to get swole, bodybuilder Martyn Ford is fighting soon. They are covering for Jon but at this point it doesn’t matter. I wish they would let them all juice and we see the best fighters with the least injuries and quickest recovery going at it.

The long term metabolite does not have the same half-life as Turinabol. That’s the whole point. You can’t just use Turinabol half-life in your calculation but that of the metabolite which is much longer.