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Viper Flex Primobolan 200 Blind Test Results

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I don’t really know the rules as I don’t step outside of my own thread much.. so someone right the ship here if I’ve veered of course.

First things first, if in fact there is 20 percent BU or BC (two of the cheaper things to make) mixed with the most expensive while they’re up charging the fuck out of primo.. it isn’t in accident.

That’s just problem number one

Now, a few years back raws underwent some alteration in which they require slightly more solvent. In particular tren e and npp, but that’s not limited. I haven’t with testing been able to pin point the problem, however I believe it is in the manufacturing/ esterification process. Like cutting cost somewhere. I’m sure I’m not the only one to notice. (Things are seemingly getting worse EVERYWHERE)

If for some reason this is on accident( which it isn’t) then what in the fuck else do we have to worry about and test for with new rounds of raws batches?

Now, let’s take a look at the chemical structure of BU and ME..

Anyone good at chemistry?

The chemical structure isn’t altered on accident if someone were to try and utter that either.

I foresee testing out the ass coming.

I know I didn’t directly answer and that’s because I don’t have hard answers, yet. Only speculation.

I don’t know, maybe I’m old and grouchy, but I think most of this is intentional.

Edit. I’m only speaking of RAWS MANUFACTURING… not any sources. I will have my own testing soon enough.
BU raws are liquid and ME are powder, so this wasn’t a raws manufacturing issue. Viper stated it was a re used filter that caused the cross contamination according to his logs.

As far as AGs and his having BC in them (also powder) that’s a different story and could very well be intentional from the manufacturers or a middleman down the line… with raws scarcity everyone is scattering to get whatever raws they can and who knows from where. He mentioned the fish scale look to the ME that the other raws don’t have which he noticed to be slightly different (can’t remember his exact words) now realizing after the tests it was the presence of the BC.
 

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BU raws are liquid and ME are powder, so this wasn’t a raws manufacturing issue. Viper stated it was a re used filter that caused the cross contamination according to his logs.

As far as AGs and his having BC in them (also powder) that’s a different story and could very well be intentional from the manufacturers or a middleman down the line… with raws scarcity everyone is scattering to get whatever raws they can and who knows from where. He mentioned the fish scale look to the ME that the other raws don’t have which he noticed to be slightly different (can’t remember his exact words) now realizing after the tests it was the presence of the BC.
I think maybe you’re missing what I’m saying and the understanding of production. However, you could be right! We don’t know yet without more testing as usual.

Good sir, I know BU is liquid, when it’s by itself at room temp. If it was manufactured in process with something else, it could all be powder.( I’ll just shut my biscuit hole until mine shows up)

I missed the capsule filter talk, my fault.

ME should always have a flaky, crystal look to it when it’s presence is solo.

I will gladly step out now since I didn’t know the entire situation. My fault for not looking back with more focus.
 

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I think maybe you’re missing what I’m saying and the understanding of production. However, you could be right! We don’t know yet without more testing as usual.

Good sir, I know BU is liquid, when it’s by itself at room temp. If it was manufactured in process with something else, it could all be powder.( I’ll just shut my biscuit hole until mine shows up)

I missed the capsule filter talk, my fault.

ME should always have a flaky, crystal look to it when it’s presence is solo.

I will gladly step out now since I didn’t know the entire situation. My fault for not looking back with more focus.
Appreciate your insight and opinions. I would gladly welcome raws manufacturing discussion especially with the current climate. Whoever’s wants to chime in on this topic is more than welcome.
 

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Appreciate your insight and opinions. I would gladly welcome raws manufacturing discussion especially with the current climate. Whoever’s wants to chime in on this topic is more than welcome.
Just for my own clarification, we have two tests by coincidence that have ME and some ester of boldenone by two separate sources?
 

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thats crazy especially with the price increases of primo on the market recently
 

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thats crazy especially with the price increases of primo on the market recently
Yeah people saying they’re charging 15k/kg. Then they’re cutting it with boldenone now, after marking up the price drastically. That’s wild
 

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Yeah people saying they’re charging 15k/kg. Then they’re cutting it with boldenone now, after marking up the price drastically. That’s wild
What were they charging before? You're not kidding about the 15k/kg right?
 

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What were they charging before? You're not kidding about the 15k/kg right?
Depends who is they, but I could get a kg for around 10k. No, he’s not kidding. Primobolan is expensive and even more so now.
 

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even at 15 a kg, thats $30-35 cost per vial and majority of guys are selling 2000mg vials for 130+
What kind of oil, solvent, stopper, cap, glass, machinery overhead, labor, payroll, taxes, etc etc etc are you building into that cost? Retainer fee? I could go on… please don’t think about it as that black and white. It’s not even close.
 

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I'm not trying to itemize the expenses sources have. It's understood it goes beyond actual monetary cost of items. There's cost of personal time, expertise, employees, runners, packages, financial accounting... etc So all this needs to be built into the price to make it all worth doing.

But just curious, how many vials can be made from a kg? Is it as straight as math? Ex: 1kg(1000g) ÷ 200mg vials(2g in a 10ml vial)= 500 vials?

Please correct me if I'm not mathing correctly.
 

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I'm not trying to itemize the expenses sources have. It's understood it goes beyond actual monetary cost of items. There's cost of personal time, expertise, employees, runners, packages, financial accounting... etc So all this needs to be built into the price to make it all worth doing.

But just curious, how many vials can be made from a kg? Is it as straight as math? Ex: 1kg(1000g) ÷ 200mg vials(2g in a 10ml vial)= 500 vials?

Please correct me if I'm not mathing correctly.
With overdose, my fill levels, loss, and a few other factors it isn’t quite that easy, no. Sure wish it was.
 

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yeah i agree that was pretty narrow minded, much more going into it than binder and capsules
 
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