Virgin PIP or something serious?

[secretsauce]

So I did a pec injection for the first time 3 days ago. Usually just do delts and glutes but scar tissue was starting to be a problem.

Wasn't until probably the day after that the pip was awful. Expected it since it's Virgin muscle. Now I'm hitting chest and it's still hurting, and the pain is so bad in my left pec that it feels like it's going to tear right off when I start pressing. I dunno if I should just push through it since it's probably just the pip and the muscle is being a pussy about it and needs to just get use to it. It was painless going in.

Synergy's stuff gives me more pip than srx did, but damn it's like the rock slapped my chest lol

 

[greenranger890]

If you cleaned everything good, then it's probably pip. Syns never gave me pip. Colonial has tho.

 

[MrMetal]

" I dunno if I should just push through" Famous last words.

 

[Bigdovis2]

Start to try and pin quads but rotate say L quad R quad L delt R delt and so on should help you from building scar tissue

 

[imagepb]

Maybe start by telling us what you’re injecting?

 

[bottletop]

its pip, also working chest is a bad idea if you are going heavy I almost had a tear once I recieved a nice 4th delt lol. Also unless it becomes extreeeemly hard and about 3 times its normal size its probably still pip. I stopped injecting my pecs though they take to much strain to often and I know too many people with pec tears because of injections ruining integrity do lats vg delts glutes basically everything before chest

 

[secretsauce]

If you cleaned everything good, then it's probably pip. Syns never gave me pip. Colonial has tho.

It was his 300mg Test. Took the 250mg and the PIP is not even close. Way less bad. Crazy how much of a difference that made.

" I dunno if I should just push through" Famous last words.

Yea I train high intensity which is why I was super worried. Not exactly the Mentzer way but similar philosophy. Wound up taking it easy that day...trained like a volumer...yuck. Haha

Start to try and pin quads but rotate say L quad R quad L delt R delt and so on should help you from building scar tissue

Everything I read about quads, its the absolute worst place to pin. Too many nerves and virgin pip is the worst. Seems common but I've never tried it, so I cant say personally

Maybe start by telling us what you’re injecting?

Synergy's 300mg Test E. Now using the 250mg Test C and it's night and day difference. The pip isn't even close to the same.

its pip, also working chest is a bad idea if you are going heavy I almost had a tear once I recieved a nice 4th delt lol. Also unless it becomes extreeeemly hard and about 3 times its normal size its probably still pip. I stopped injecting my pecs though they take to much strain to often and I know too many people with pec tears because of injections ruining integrity do lats vg delts glutes basically everything before chest

I didnt know the pinning caused integrity problems. Even if you have enough different locations to stop scar tissue buildup? My delts seem nice big and strong, but I guess pec tears are way more common than delt tears haha

 

[MikeAlstott]

It was his 300mg Test. Took the 250mg and the PIP is not even close. Way less bad. Crazy how much of a difference that made.

Yea I train high intensity which is why I was super worried. Not exactly the Mentzer way but similar philosophy. Wound up taking it easy that day...trained like a volumer...yuck. Haha

Everything I read about quads, its the absolute worst place to pin. Too many nerves and virgin pip is the worst. Seems common but I've never tried it, so I cant say personally

Synergy's 300mg Test E. Now using the 250mg Test C and it's night and day difference. The pip isn't even close to the same.

I didnt know the pinning caused integrity problems. Even if you have enough different locations to stop scar tissue buildup? My delts seem nice big and strong, but I guess pec tears are way more common than delt tears haha

It could be the Test E raws causing PIP. ask Syn, maybe he knows. he's explained it before why Test E can cause PIP. I never use it, always use Test C and have never had an issue.
About quads: pecs are quite possibly the worst place to pin and you've already tried that so why not try out some quad pins while your at it? it's not as bad as you think and it could become a preferable place for you to pin.

 

[Warriorman7]

Never pin pecs lol. Just not a good spot for oil based inj. Lats are great , though

 

[secretsauce]

It could be the Test E raws causing PIP. ask Syn, maybe he knows. he's explained it before why Test E can cause PIP. I never use it, always use Test C and have never had an issue.
About quads: pecs are quite possibly the worst place to pin and you've already tried that so why not try out some quad pins while your at it? it's not as bad as you think and it could become a preferable place for you to pin.

Ill try the quads next time then. Thank you

Never pin pecs lol. Just not a good spot for oil based inj. Lats are great , though

Ill try those if the quads dont work. Hard for me to twist like that and get to them with a needle. Thank you

 

[Warriorman7]

Ill try the quads next time then. Thank you

Ill try those if the quads dont work. Hard for me to twist like that and get to them with a needle. Thank you

No problem . For lats just lift your arm . pin under the armpit , in the middle of the lat usually. Shouldn’t take too much twisting.

 

[Musclechemist7]

No problem . For lats just lift your arm . pin under the armpit , in the middle of the lat usually. Shouldn’t take too much twisting.

THIS^^^^^^

 

[Musclechemist7]

Ill try the quads next time then. Thank you

Ill try those if the quads dont work. Hard for me to twist like that and get to them with a needle. Thank you

VG you can jam 5ml in easy and at worse feels like a bug bite the next day, most days you cant even tell you pinned. Give it a try and there is minimal twisting , if you can reach you hip you can hit VG

 

[bottletop]

It was his 300mg Test. Took the 250mg and the PIP is not even close. Way less bad. Crazy how much of a difference that made.

Yea I train high intensity which is why I was super worried. Not exactly the Mentzer way but similar philosophy. Wound up taking it easy that day...trained like a volumer...yuck. Haha

Everything I read about quads, its the absolute worst place to pin. Too many nerves and virgin pip is the worst. Seems common but I've never tried it, so I cant say personally

Synergy's 300mg Test E. Now using the 250mg Test C and it's night and day difference. The pip isn't even close to the same.

I didnt know the pinning caused integrity problems. Even if you have enough different locations to stop scar tissue buildup? My delts seem nice big and strong, but I guess pec tears are way more common than delt tears haha

it always builds scar tissue you do not want scar tissue in your pecs, if its swelling and really painful guess what its not enough rotation

 

[Alphasauceee]

Hey so my girlfriend wants to start taking hgh for anti aging purposes and my question is can your body shut its natural HGH production down or off if it's injected for a period of time (Like steroids)

 

[secretsauce]

I did the quads and it was great. Completely painless except for the virgin pip which is normal. Took my time doing it, spent at least 45 seconds just getting the needle in so I didn't hit anything bad. Super easy because I can just sit there and do it with both hands. Tried doing the lats before that like you suggested but honestly I'm retarded so I couldn't figure it out. If I had somebody to do it for me then maybe I could . Good thing about the pip in the quad is that it doesn't stop my workouts. My pec felt like it was going to shred apart but the quad no problem. Thanks bros.

Alphasauce I suggest you make a new thread so more people see it. To my understanding, no, as the pituitary gland does not shrink like the testicles. Even if you shutdown natural production it will come back very quickly as the cells in the pitutary don't die like your leydig cells will. But if you are taking it for anti aging then it probally wouldn't matter anyways because you'd be taking it for the rest of your life anyways like TRT. But honestly bro, make another thread and ask so more knowledgeable people can answer your question. I dont wanna tell you the wrong thing.