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Wanting to run Eq

BigarmsAL

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I’ve got a good chunk of cycles under my belt I have never ran eq I’m going into a cut right about now and was thinking of running test at 300 mast at 400 and eq at 500 can someone give me their experience with it side effects what I should expect and maybe correct my doses if they feel it should be thanks a lot
 

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Bump the EQ to at least 600mg a week. 800mg a week is a more common dose where gains are more noticeable and still a reasonable dose for eq. Using the search bar, you'll find some more helpful feedback to what your looking for.
 

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Not everyone reacts well to EQ. I would run the test higher since both mast and EQ can have effects on E2 levels. Maybe start low on the EQ, and work your way up over a series of weeks until you reach a peak dosage and then continue from there. Keep in mind it has a very long half life, starting out too high can be detrimental because it's going to take a long time to clear if you're not doing well with it.
 

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EQ works really well... Even just 300mg of it is noticable on top of nearly a gram of Tren. It's helps with fullness, vascularity, appetite, and endurance. Very synergistic. Just like anything else... Can run it higher.. up to a gram.

I'm considering the event in which I manage to get my hands on some and get a good EQ blasting in. Just working out the different cycle modalities inside of my cardio routine (no pun intended, *badumtiss*) before deciding on what strategy to utilize moving forward.
 

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EQ works really well... Even just 300mg of it is noticable on top of nearly a gram of Tren. It's helps with fullness, vascularity, appetite, and endurance. Very synergistic. Just like anything else... Can run it higher.. up to a gram.

I'm considering the event in which I manage to get my hands on some and get a good EQ blasting in. Just working out the different cycle modalities inside of my cardio routine (no pun intended, *badumtiss*) before deciding on what strategy to utilize moving forward.
Does running EQ help you with the cardio losses when you run tren? I have some EQ on deck and have been noticing my tren ace use seems to be affecting my cardio.
 

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Does running EQ help you with the cardio losses when you run tren? I have some EQ on deck and have been noticing my tren ace use seems to be affecting my cardio.
I would say, overall, Tren hasn't ever really impeded my cardio outside of painful growth pumps, accompanied perhaps by a sometimes "spicy" tren lung... I think EQ definitely helps endurance and can be beneficial to cardio.

What's very important to note here? The fact that I don't really have any cardio issues after implementing a clean and healthy whole foods based diet plan that includes healthy fruits and vegetables, hydration, and the continued practice of cardio based exercise. It's also much easier to do cardio without toxic doses of orals or mega doses of cheap steroid oils chalk full of dissolvents. I do notice when I pin more during the week, it can definitely reflect on the quality of my breathing being there is a higher level of solvents in my blood - it also causes foggy thoughts. It starts of as light enough of a side effect that it's usually just an indicator for me to speculate and adjust my diet plan and dosing protocols.

I think using a supplement called "afrin" Nasal Spray as well as Aspirin or DayFlu cough syrup (as regular recommended dose) has also helped improve my cardio performance, by helping decongest nasal pathways and provide an effective level of pain tolerance to lactic acid build up. Be careful here with the Acetaminophen, as we are not looking to ignore pains that could lead to injury, but rather manage and tolerate regular pains associated with exercise - like DOMS and Lactic Acid buildup. Also I think electrolyte and mineral intake is very important when considering muscular strength, endurance, and performance.
 

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I would say, overall, Tren hasn't ever really impeded my cardio outside of painful growth pumps, accompanied perhaps by a sometimes "spicy" tren lung... I think EQ definitely helps endurance and can be beneficial to cardio.

What's very important to note here? The fact that I don't really have any cardio issues after implementing a clean and healthy whole foods based diet plan that includes healthy fruits and vegetables, hydration, and the continued practice of cardio based exercise. It's also much easier to do cardio without toxic doses of orals or mega doses of cheap steroid oils chalk full of dissolvents. I do notice when I pin more during the week, it can definitely reflect on the quality of my breathing being there is a higher level of solvents in my blood - it also causes foggy thoughts. It starts of as light enough of a side effect that it's usually just an indicator for me to speculate and adjust my diet plan and dosing protocols.

I think using a supplement called "afrin" Nasal Spray as well as Aspirin or DayFlu cough syrup (as regular recommended dose) has also helped improve my cardio performance, by helping decongest nasal pathways and provide an effective level of pain tolerance to lactic acid build up. Be careful here with the Acetaminophen, as we are not looking to ignore pains that could lead to injury, but rather manage and tolerate regular pains associated with exercise - like DOMS and Lactic Acid buildup. Also I think electrolyte and mineral intake is very important when considering muscular strength, endurance, and performance.
My brother please be aware that Afrin can and WILL cause serious rebound congestion if used chronically. I highly recommend that you do not use it. I have been battling a physical addiction to this nasal spray for the entirety of 2023 to the present day. I'm currently using a dilution method to ween myself off of the drug. It is not pleasant.
 

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My brother please be aware that Afrin can and WILL cause serious rebound congestion if used chronically. I highly recommend that you do not use it. I have been battling a physical addiction to this nasal spray for the entirety of 2023 to the present day. I'm currently using a dilution method to ween myself off of the drug. It is not pleasant.
Oh yeah, been there before! Can get maybe 3 days worth of relief and then after that it just turns worse. Remember being at the doctor and they basically scolded and asked why I used that and said to NEVER use it again as it just worsens things.
 

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My brother please be aware that Afrin can and WILL cause serious rebound congestion if used chronically. I highly recommend that you do not use it. I have been battling a physical addiction to this nasal spray for the entirety of 2023 to the present day. I'm currently using a dilution method to ween myself off of the drug. It is not pleasant.
That is a valid point. I haven't got any rebound congestion yet outside of a small single nostril congestion, last night as a matter of fact. I will keep that in mind when considering this approach. I think though, that cardiovascular activity and strict clean eating may offset this side effect. I will post any updates and be sure not to become addicted.
 

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That is a valid point. I haven't got any rebound congestion yet outside of a small single nostril congestion, last night as a matter of fact. I will keep that in mind when considering this approach. I think though, that cardiovascular activity and strict clean eating may offset this side effect. I will post any updates and be sure not to become addicted.
I'm telling you right now, nothing offsets becoming physically addicted to oxymetazoline. Trust me when I say that you should avoid this at all costs.
 

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Ive done a 600 test/ 600 eq that was front loaded at 1200 way back in the day when it was recommended. I would never run eq higher (or that high) than test again. It gives weird anxiety that i cant fully describe because i never got it off anything else. It's not like work/life anxiety. Like i was becoming a little unhinged, and losing empathy. Other than hair loss which was bad on this, I don't get sides.

I dropped down to 600test/400eq and everything was fine. The endurance gains are real. I was already running about 80 miles a week, and 10-15 pounds of dry gains weren't negatively effected. Lifting endurance was off the charts. Two hours into a session felt like my first set. I was running the 2/2 westside barbell at the time, and heavy days were great.
 

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I’m currently doing 400 test and 375 eq haven’t noticed a whole lot yet
 
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