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What does your ideal cycle look like?
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Pillbottlepipebomb
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200mg Trest-E is a brutally high dose. Have you ran it often?
fike
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The mother of all cycles to me is 250ish Test, 600 EQ, 400 Primo, 25 mg var daily which I always run year round, and 100 Deca for joint support and immunosuppression because I have systemic lupus which I run year around as well. I like to throw in 30-50 mg anadrol per day when I start plateauing for a month or so. I’m also experimenting with adding 75 mg of tren hex to the mix this go around as well. Also, I always take 500 IU HCG EOD, 2.5 MG TB-500 E3D, and 1 MG BPC-157 Twice Daily at injury sight.
I normally don’t go over a gram per week total on any cycle, but I’m throwing it to the wind right now. It’s too much to type to explain why, but I have good reasoning on going so high with so many compounds, so don’t judge. I’m not a maniac trying to stop my heart. it’s well thought out and researched and is far exceeding what I expected.
I normally don’t go over a gram per week total on any cycle, but I’m throwing it to the wind right now. It’s too much to type to explain why, but I have good reasoning on going so high with so many compounds, so don’t judge. I’m not a maniac trying to stop my heart. it’s well thought out and researched and is far exceeding what I expected.
jumdumpster
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it depends what its for, but my last cycle of 600 test 350 npp was sick. i added in 50mg ment because i had some left over and anadrol 4wks out. strength was insane. npp over tren anyday now that ive tried both, but i did retain a LOT of water on this.
fike
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Ment scared me for some reason and I honestly have no idea why. It was pretty awesome though?
jumdumpster
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a lot of people are super scared of ment and it seems like its mainly from an estrogen standpoint, but i didnt really have an issue. i experimented with it during my last cruise by adding 25mg in for a few weeks and i felt like i was significantly stronger than just using test. you dont really need much to get a lot out of it it seems. i didnt use anything for ai aside from aromasin here and there and was completely fine. i bet if you added even 10 of 15mg a week to a cruise itd be noticeable. i think it being so androgenic and way less used compared to other stuff makes people think its some forbidden juice.
fike
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I may give it a try in the future. I know what I’m about to say sounds very hypocritical considering what I’m running right now, but I think most people run dosages of compounds like Tren and Anadrol way too high. “Yeah, yeah, but every person is different” is what i always hear, but 400-500 mg of Tren ace per week? Thats a huge dose, then whatever else that person is running in top of it. I haven’t seen any difference in 200 mg of Tren vs 400 mg as far as gains or physique. The only difference I noticed was negative side effects, which luckily for me, was the most shitty night sweats I’ve ever had. I believe there is probably a ceiling effect for most users with the compounds and the negatives just start negating anything positive.
MuscleMongoose
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My next planned cycle :
Test C
Test E
Test P
Sust
Tren A
Tren E
Primo E
Primo A
Winny
MAST
Halo
Anavar
Anadrol
Deca
NPP
Arimidex
Nolva .
Then for pct I’ll use hgh and tren only.
How’s my cycle looking ? Any suggestions? Plan on running it for 6 months straight.
Test C
Test E
Test P
Sust
Tren A
Tren E
Primo E
Primo A
Winny
MAST
Halo
Anavar
Anadrol
Deca
NPP
Arimidex
Nolva .
Then for pct I’ll use hgh and tren only.
How’s my cycle looking ? Any suggestions? Plan on running it for 6 months straight.
fike
Member
Did you leave out cheque drops on purpose?
MuscleMongoose
Active member
Yeah cause that’s what I use for my trt. Straight cheeque drops year round. So I figure no need to add them back in
jumdumpster
Active member
i definitely agree. ive ran 350 mg of tren ace, i think even 400 once, and that shit was awful. i would wake up in a pool of sweat. tren is the only drug where i lose weight starting it because i get so dry.
fike
Member
Yeah, dude. It's brutally unnecessary. Ace is a different beast than Hex as well. I tolerate it much better. The effects aren't as immediate or intense, of course, but it's definitely a lot smoother. 150 mg per week of tren hex is solid as fuck.
jumdumpster
Active member
i bet hex is way better because the release is so much more prolonged so youre not just being slammed
i think im done with tren in general though, the sides are insane. i can handle everything but on tren im just wild as fuck. i 100% believe in the neurotoxicity of it because i feel like an uninhibited monster on that shit
fike
Member
I don't blame you, brother. Aside from the night sweats, my bloodwork is always shit hot. Only my HDL ever comes back out of whack. Prolactin will be slightly elevated as well. Luckily, my temperament is changed much if any. My wife keeps me in check if I start getting sideways at all. Never had the urge to cheat or lie to her on it, but I know it has been a contributing factor in ruining lots of relationships.
jumdumpster
Active member
i know a lot of guy banned from using tren by their girlfriend (i was one). its interesting though because ive used it once and was fairly ok, but ive also used it and been a total menace. tren also makes me piss yellow the entire cycle, its like i popped two halos everyday. fucking up your levels and drying you out has to be totally fucked for your body
fike
Member
Definitely a dehydrator. I leaned to never use it during the summer anymore.
MuscleMongoose
Active member
@jumdumpster @fike
Have either of you guys ran trendione the prohormone that converts to tren ?
I ran it in 2014. I actually still have a pic of the bottle.
Anyway the dosing was 30mg a day of trendione (210 a week) and I ran it for two months straight.
There were three other prohormones in the stack.
It actually worked pretty well for being a prohormone. But I did suffer from gyno and massive hair loss from it. My hair did end up growing back though.
I have never tried actual tren. I am wondering what the conversion of the prohormone dose is to actual tren
Have either of you guys ran trendione the prohormone that converts to tren ?
I ran it in 2014. I actually still have a pic of the bottle.
Anyway the dosing was 30mg a day of trendione (210 a week) and I ran it for two months straight.
There were three other prohormones in the stack.
It actually worked pretty well for being a prohormone. But I did suffer from gyno and massive hair loss from it. My hair did end up growing back though.
I have never tried actual tren. I am wondering what the conversion of the prohormone dose is to actual tren
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fike
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First I’ve ever heard of it. That actually sounds scarier to me than ment. Haha. The only “prohormone” I’ve even actually ran wasn’t even an actual prohormone I don’t believe. It was called Hexadrone. No, not the drug that that’s similar to meth and cracks you all out, but they share the same name. It was very mild and actually worked fairly well. It was not methylated and seemed like a weaker Anavar in its effects. Maybe like a 20-25 mg dose of Anavar. It was one of my first delves into the ped world.
MuscleMongoose
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yeah it was the first actual thing I ever took. At the time I didn’t even look at the what the ingredients were the guy just told me to take two bottles of it so that’s what I did
I remember loosing hair and getting gyno towards the end. I didn’t pct or use any ais I was clueless at the time and never took a prohormone or anything else after that for a few years. That kind of put me off from using anything for a while.
Then I got back into lifting and using compounds and I looked into what the prohormones I took and was thinking to myself how fucking dumb was I to take trendione for my first supplement ever
fike
Member
I hopped into it haphazardly myself. Started with SARMS, which supposedly weren’t supposed to be suppressive and all the other bull shit these sites were saying at the time. I didn’t know about all these forums where a wealth of knowledge was being shared. I would do a PCT that was recommended by the guy at the counter, but I still felt shittier and shittier after each cycle.
Then the same people turned me onto Hexadrone, then DMZ, then some other stuff that I can’t even honestly remember. I didn’t know anything about testosterone suppression or running test at all, so I basically zapped myself of all testosterone.
I have systemic lupus so I usually get bloodwork done every 1-3 months to check progression and my numbers were all over the place. My liver values were through the roof, inflammation markers were ridiculously high, and cholesterol was screwed. I went from having a natural test level of 800 to pretty much nothing. Because of my stupidity, I basically had to go on TRT. They didn’t try Clomid or anything else first, my PCM went straight to test cyp with 250 IU EOD or HCG to restart spermatogenesis. I’m a lifer now, which is all good, because I enjoy the lifestyle and it’s my hobby, but I could have fucked my body up forever if It weren’t for me having to get bloodwork done so frequently. If I hear young guys talking about using sarms or shit they buy from a nutrition store, I try to warn them, but most don’t listen.