Why would you run anything else besides Tren?

[system]

Brochacho_Prime" pid='20340' dateline='1531922963:

BioMass Labs" pid='20326' dateline='1531904891:

Not good my bro. I feel “not good”. Two 19-nor steroids is one thing, still bad but MENT with a LIGHT dose (like half) of NPP? I can get behind something like that. But running two of the most powerful 19-nors together? And possibly at a dose referred to in the medical field as “bro, why?” becasue I know how you hardcore tren people get… I just can’t see the happy ending.

I legit laughed at my desk. Maybe I’ll give MENT and low dose NPP a go for my winter cycle for a bit before I replace it with tren. It sounds sick.

Or I guess if I react really well I’ll just keep it and skip the tren.

Haha nice. I’ve seen die-hard tren fans get turnt buddy. It’s worth a whirl.

 

[T0rtilla]

BioMass Labs" pid='20326' dateline='1531904891:

Totally bro! That’s why it’s expensive as hell and all these stupid customers buy the shit out of it! LOL also Mountain Dew makes your dick small. I heard that.

I’m not sure what your friends were doing other than “wrong” but there are actual medical journals written documenting the wondrous mastery of this drug. I’m not gonna dive too deep into the science because its late and I’m tired but its 5x more anabolic than Tren with virtually no prolactin side effects. It does come along with some water retention but its about as much as can be expected when running Deca or NPP. No acne, no oily skin, no temper tantrums or other out of control behavioral issues. The only thing you need to run with this is 20mg of Nolvadex a day. If I were you I would either give it a shot myself and pay special attention to the rest of your cycle (like diet and exercise for example) or listen to anecdotal accounts from people that are a little more knowledgeable. My comments are in no way an effort to be rude to you but your perception is far off enough that it got under my skin and I need to spin you around 180 degrees and send you in the other direction when thinking about MENT. Do some research and I think you’ll be surprised at what you find.

So do you think large amounts of AI isn’t needed when taking MENT?

Everybody talks about how they needed 2.5mg letro ED or w/e on it but honestly I felt like I would always crash my estro when I used any AI with MENT. Even the literature that I’ve read showed it to aromatize minimally iirc. I always wondered if the gyno occurred through some mechanism other than just E2…

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

T0rtilla" pid='20393' dateline='1531964036:

BioMass Labs" pid='20326' dateline='1531904891:

Totally bro! That’s why it’s expensive as hell and all these stupid customers buy the shit out of it! LOL also Mountain Dew makes your dick small. I heard that.

I’m not sure what your friends were doing other than “wrong” but there are actual medical journals written documenting the wondrous mastery of this drug. I’m not gonna dive too deep into the science because its late and I’m tired but its 5x more anabolic than Tren with virtually no prolactin side effects. It does come along with some water retention but its about as much as can be expected when running Deca or NPP. No acne, no oily skin, no temper tantrums or other out of control behavioral issues. The only thing you need to run with this is 20mg of Nolvadex a day. If I were you I would either give it a shot myself and pay special attention to the rest of your cycle (like diet and exercise for example) or listen to anecdotal accounts from people that are a little more knowledgeable. My comments are in no way an effort to be rude to you but your perception is far off enough that it got under my skin and I need to spin you around 180 degrees and send you in the other direction when thinking about MENT. Do some research and I think you’ll be surprised at what you find.

So do you think large amounts of AI isn’t needed when taking MENT?

Everybody talks about how they needed 2.5mg letro ED or w/e on it but honestly I felt like I would always crash my estro when I used any AI with MENT. Even the literature that I’ve read showed it to aromatize minimally iirc. I always wondered if the gyno occurred through some mechanism other than just E2…

I wonder if it has anything to do with guys who get gyno from drol/sdrol vs guys who don’t?

I don’t have nipple issues from anything even if e2 is crazy, but tren always makes them slightly sensitive no matter the dose. Naturally I run ralox the entire time I’m running tren, just to be safe.

EQ also crushes my e2.

Supid complicated hormone interactions

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BioMass Labs" pid='20375' dateline='1531947556:

Brochacho_Prime" pid='20340' dateline='1531922963:

BioMass Labs" pid='20326' dateline='1531904891:

Not good my bro. I feel “not good”. Two 19-nor steroids is one thing, still bad but MENT with a LIGHT dose (like half) of NPP? I can get behind something like that. But running two of the most powerful 19-nors together? And possibly at a dose referred to in the medical field as “bro, why?” becasue I know how you hardcore tren people get… I just can’t see the happy ending.

I legit laughed at my desk. Maybe I’ll give MENT and low dose NPP a go for my winter cycle for a bit before I replace it with tren. It sounds sick.

Or I guess if I react really well I’ll just keep it and skip the tren.

Haha nice. I’ve seen die-hard tren fans get turnt buddy. It’s worth a whirl.

What would you recommend for a trest ace protocol dose-wise for a larger man who is 19-nor low sides responder (dunno if there is any carry over or not)

 

[dianabolman]

Brochacho_Prime" pid='20395' dateline='1531965759:

T0rtilla" pid='20393' dateline='1531964036:

BioMass Labs" pid='20326' dateline='1531904891:

Totally bro! That’s why it’s expensive as hell and all these stupid customers buy the shit out of it! LOL also Mountain Dew makes your dick small. I heard that.

I’m not sure what your friends were doing other than “wrong” but there are actual medical journals written documenting the wondrous mastery of this drug. I’m not gonna dive too deep into the science because its late and I’m tired but its 5x more anabolic than Tren with virtually no prolactin side effects. It does come along with some water retention but its about as much as can be expected when running Deca or NPP. No acne, no oily skin, no temper tantrums or other out of control behavioral issues. The only thing you need to run with this is 20mg of Nolvadex a day. If I were you I would either give it a shot myself and pay special attention to the rest of your cycle (like diet and exercise for example) or listen to anecdotal accounts from people that are a little more knowledgeable. My comments are in no way an effort to be rude to you but your perception is far off enough that it got under my skin and I need to spin you around 180 degrees and send you in the other direction when thinking about MENT. Do some research and I think you’ll be surprised at what you find.

So do you think large amounts of AI isn’t needed when taking MENT?

Everybody talks about how they needed 2.5mg letro ED or w/e on it but honestly I felt like I would always crash my estro when I used any AI with MENT. Even the literature that I’ve read showed it to aromatize minimally iirc. I always wondered if the gyno occurred through some mechanism other than just E2…

I wonder if it has anything to do with guys who get gyno from drol/sdrol vs guys who don’t?

I don’t have nipple issues from anything even if e2 is crazy, but tren always makes them slightly sensitive no matter the dose. Naturally I run ralox the entire time I’m running tren, just to be safe.

EQ also crushes my e2.

Supid complicated hormone interactions

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BioMass Labs" pid='20375' dateline='1531947556:

Brochacho_Prime" pid='20340' dateline='1531922963:

BioMass Labs" pid='20326' dateline='1531904891:

Not good my bro. I feel “not good”. Two 19-nor steroids is one thing, still bad but MENT with a LIGHT dose (like half) of NPP? I can get behind something like that. But running two of the most powerful 19-nors together? And possibly at a dose referred to in the medical field as “bro, why?” becasue I know how you hardcore tren people get… I just can’t see the happy ending.

I legit laughed at my desk. Maybe I’ll give MENT and low dose NPP a go for my winter cycle for a bit before I replace it with tren. It sounds sick.

Or I guess if I react really well I’ll just keep it and skip the tren.

Haha nice. I’ve seen die-hard tren fans get turnt buddy. It’s worth a whirl.

What would you recommend for a trest ace protocol dose-wise for a larger man who is 19-nor low sides responder (dunno if there is any carry over or not)

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I must have been a shit suitor for ment because i didnt make any gains from 100mg a day and didnt even need an AI and i got my shit from hunter and he doesnt sell bunk, and everyone else that bought from the same batch got results, ill just stick to deca and tren

 

[Nuts2Butts]

>facial fat apoptosis

You can’t just mention this without a sauce. I know androgens exhibit fat-burning properties to some extent but I haven’t read any literature on localized fat burning. Only substance that I know of capable of “spot reducing” is yohimbine.

There have only been two humans studies with tren ever. However, it’s casually easy to observe. Look at the same guy before and after tren use at the same body fat levels. His face is hollowed out like he’s been on meth for the last year.

Tren permanently “leaning out” your face isn’t even a disputed point in steroid circles.

 

[PissedPajamas]

Nuts2Butts" pid='20561' dateline='1532107637:

>facial fat apoptosis

You can’t just mention this without a sauce. I know androgens exhibit fat-burning properties to some extent but I haven’t read any literature on localized fat burning. Only substance that I know of capable of “spot reducing” is yohimbine.

There have only been two humans studies with tren ever. However, it’s casually easy to observe. Look at the same guy before and after tren use at the same body fat levels. His face is hollowed out like he’s been on meth for the last year.

Tren permanently “leaning out” your face isn’t even a disputed point in steroid circles.

I’ll be the first to call bullshit, I’ve ran Tren during cuts and bulks with both high t and low t doses and never got the sunken-in look. Fat distribution is genetic and if anything Tren increases glycogen retention around my cheeks giving me a puffier look. The only thing that leans me out like that is a low carb diet with clen and some t3 but muscles go flat as well.

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T0rtilla" pid='20393' dateline='1531964036:

BioMass Labs" pid='20326' dateline='1531904891:

Totally bro! That’s why it’s expensive as hell and all these stupid customers buy the shit out of it! LOL also Mountain Dew makes your dick small. I heard that.

I’m not sure what your friends were doing other than “wrong” but there are actual medical journals written documenting the wondrous mastery of this drug. I’m not gonna dive too deep into the science because its late and I’m tired but its 5x more anabolic than Tren with virtually no prolactin side effects. It does come along with some water retention but its about as much as can be expected when running Deca or NPP. No acne, no oily skin, no temper tantrums or other out of control behavioral issues. The only thing you need to run with this is 20mg of Nolvadex a day. If I were you I would either give it a shot myself and pay special attention to the rest of your cycle (like diet and exercise for example) or listen to anecdotal accounts from people that are a little more knowledgeable. My comments are in no way an effort to be rude to you but your perception is far off enough that it got under my skin and I need to spin you around 180 degrees and send you in the other direction when thinking about MENT. Do some research and I think you’ll be surprised at what you find.

FWIW I tried MENT which is supposedly an oral clone of trest (or the same exact thing idk) and my e2 was absolutely out of control even on .5mg adex ED. I was also setting 5lb PR’s on all my compound movements every session like I still had noob gains. It was nuts and I gained 20lbs in 3 weeks but the sides weren’t worth it to me and I lost 12 of those pounds by the time I dropped MENT. BP was nuts and I had the worst anger issues, would not recommend/10

So do you think large amounts of AI isn’t needed when taking MENT?

Everybody talks about how they needed 2.5mg letro ED or w/e on it but honestly I felt like I would always crash my estro when I used any AI with MENT. Even the literature that I’ve read showed it to aromatize minimally iirc. I always wondered if the gyno occurred through some mechanism other than just E2…

 

[Nuts2Butts]

I’ll be the first to call bullshit, I’ve ran Tren during cuts and bulks with both high t and low t doses and never got the sunken-in look.

Good for you man. I’m sure you look younger after your tren cycles

The dramatic facial aging I and nearly everyone who hasn’t personally run a tren cycle sees is just a figment of our imagination.

 

[PissedPajamas]

PissedPajamas" pid='20565' dateline='1532109076:

I’ll be the first to call bullshit, I’ve ran Tren during cuts and bulks with both high t and low t doses and never got the sunken-in look.

Good for you man. I’m sure you look younger after your tren cycles

The dramatic facial aging I and nearly everyone who hasn’t personally run a tren cycle sees is just a figment of our imagination.

The sunken-in look has nothing to do with aging… it’s just prominent cheek bones from low body fat and low glycogen around the face.

 

[TrenHard]

I’m a huge fan of tren and definitely enjoy it as much as the next person, but I think rotating it with NPP/Deca is worthwhile if you respond well to nandrolone for a few reasons: you’ll notice you’re fuller, put on mass easier, overall feel healthier, and the mental/physical harshness is noticeably reduced when you make the switch. They’re also great to run together and that’s always helped me run tren a little longer than I otherwise would, but I think anyone who thinks only tren is magic is missing out on what NPP/Deca have to offer.

 

[PissedPajamas]

TrenHard" pid='20722' dateline='1532275332:

I’m a huge fan of tren and definitely enjoy it as much as the next person, but I think rotating it with NPP/Deca is worthwhile if you respond well to nandrolone for a few reasons: you’ll notice you’re fuller, put on mass easier, overall feel healthier, and the mental/physical harshness is noticeably reduced when you make the switch. They’re also great to run together and that’s always helped me run tren a little longer than I otherwise would, but I think anyone who thinks only tren is magic is missing out on what NPP/Deca have to offer.

I don’t respond well to Deca, but I’ve never felt that it’s helped much more than an increase in Test would. I’d rather do 750mg test over 500mg Test/300-400mg

 

[TrenHard]

PissedPajamas" pid='20725' dateline='1532277578:

TrenHard" pid='20722' dateline='1532275332:

I’m a huge fan of tren and definitely enjoy it as much as the next person, but I think rotating it with NPP/Deca is worthwhile if you respond well to nandrolone for a few reasons: you’ll notice you’re fuller, put on mass easier, overall feel healthier, and the mental/physical harshness is noticeably reduced when you make the switch. They’re also great to run together and that’s always helped me run tren a little longer than I otherwise would, but I think anyone who thinks only tren is magic is missing out on what NPP/Deca have to offer.

I don’t respond well to Deca, but I’ve never felt that it’s helped much more than an increase in Test would. I’d rather do 750mg test over 500mg Test/300-400mg

For whatever reason, I definitely respond better to NPP than Deca, I’m not sure if it’s just me noticing it faster or what, but there is a marginal difference. I do think it’s person to person though, my friend says the same thing about Deca as you, whereas I notice size daily that test/tren just won’t bring.

 

[PissedPajamas]

Hey

PissedPajamas" pid='20725' dateline='1532277578:

TrenHard" pid='20722' dateline='1532275332:

I’m a huge fan of tren and definitely enjoy it as much as the next person, but I think rotating it with NPP/Deca is worthwhile if you respond well to nandrolone for a few reasons: you’ll notice you’re fuller, put on mass easier, overall feel healthier, and the mental/physical harshness is noticeably reduced when you make the switch. They’re also great to run together and that’s always helped me run tren a little longer than I otherwise would, but I think anyone who thinks only tren is magic is missing out on what NPP/Deca have to offer.

I don’t respond well to Deca, but I’ve never felt that it’s helped much more than an increase in Test would. I’d rather do 750mg test over 500mg Test/300-400mg

For whatever reason, I definitely respond better to NPP than Deca, I’m not sure if it’s just me noticing it faster or what, but there is a marginal difference. I do think it’s person to person though, my friend says the same thing about Deca as you, whereas I notice size daily that test/tren just won’t bring.

Ha! Tren/Test is mass city for me. Deca just doesn’t pack on size like Tren on my body. Only downside is how much calories I gotta push down my throat to gain weight on tren, at 210lbs I’m eating 5k+ cals just to gain a pound a week. If I incorporate some cardio I start dropping weight too fast so my conditioning has gone to shit too

 

[Jacktan317]

My wife’s vagina is why. That poor fucker cant handle me being on Tren. We be fucking and who knows, all the sudden I am trying stick my foot in there while my fist is already buried in her ass.

 

[Jbruder]

Jacktan317" pid='21044' dateline='1532542071:

My wife’s vagina is why. That poor fucker cant handle me being on Tren. We be fucking and who knows, all the sudden I am trying stick my foot in there while my fist is already buried in her ass.

And in the background while reading this I hear 2chains saying “TRUEEEEEE”