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Ruger said:

Yes it was close. Opti scored slightly higher but with so many variables involved when it comes to testing that for the money you can't go wrong with these guys.

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Word - probably gonna give em a try then, cause money is gonna be tight over the holidays. I'm currently running 5iu EOD (bc ive resd it can prevent receptors sensitive) but would love to get that up to 8 eventually.

What’s your guys opinion on running insulin with hgh is it necessary? Or can I run say 4iu per day hgh without insulin?

Bgainz2100 said:

What’s your guys opinion on running insulin with hgh is it necessary? Or can I run say 4iu per day hgh without insulin?

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You can absolutely.

Hgh and insulin = good
Just hgh = good
Insulin alone= bad. You'll get fat and it's a waste of insulin


I run 5iu hgh year round

Futuredadbod said:

You can absolutely.

Hgh and insulin = good
Just hgh = good
Insulin alone= bad. You'll get fat and it's a waste of insulin


I run 5iu hgh year round

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Thank you for your feedback!

Futuredadbod said:

You can absolutely.

Hgh and insulin = good
Just hgh = good
Insulin alone= bad. You'll get fat and it's a waste of insulin


I run 5iu hgh year round

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I agree with that and the only thing I'll add is if you're gonna run insulin be sure you do your homework first. Have a glucose meter and some glucose tabs ($4 a bottle at Walmart) handy in case you think you're crashing. You can get into trouble with slin if you don't know what you're doing

Ruger said:

I agree with that and the only thing I'll add is if you're gonna run insulin be sure you do your homework first. Have a glucose meter and some glucose tabs ($4 a bottle at Walmart) handy in case you think you're crashing. You can get into trouble with slin if you don't know what you're doing

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Yeah I’m actually trying to stay away from insulin for right now. That’s why I was wondering if I needed it while using hgh. Because I’ve read mixed things about it.

Ruger said:

I agree with that and the only thing I'll add is if you're gonna run insulin be sure you do your homework first. Have a glucose meter and some glucose tabs ($4 a bottle at Walmart) handy in case you think you're crashing. You can get into trouble with slin if you don't know what you're doing

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Also very good advice.

And start low with insulin, 5iu pre workout and start with only 5iu per day. Don't double up pre and post until you're more experienced. Insulin is dangerous and you can easily die if you take too much. Never under ANY circumstance take insulin before bed.


Hgh alone, completely safe. Rich P ran like 20iu a day lol.

Futuredadbod said:

Hgh alone, completely safe. Rich P ran like 20iu a day lol.

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To put things into perspective, HGH is prescribed at 18+ units per day in VERY sick populations

kits4less said:

To put things into perspective, HGH is prescribed at 18+ units per day in VERY sick populations

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Rich was VERY sick

Futuredadbod said:

Rich was VERY sick

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Its not often that I genuinely laugh out loud at comments on here LOL.

Bgainz2100 said:

Yeah I’m actually trying to stay away from insulin for right now. That’s why I was wondering if I needed it while using hgh. Because I’ve read mixed things about it.

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There is definitely no NEED. It can enhance results for sure, but there is already a synergy between AAS + HGH alone. Make sure you do your homework before throwing insulin into the mix.

What have you done to stabilize ATP in solution? The phosphoanhydride bonds will cleave pretty easily unless they're kept in a narrow pH range and properly buffered. If the fluid isn't prepared with that in mind, all the PO4 groups will break off by hydrolysis and leave naked adenosine floating around with phospate ions. Since adenosine actually makes people drowsy, this could be delivering the opposite of the intended effect.

There are enzyme-based bioillumination assays that will determine the concentration of ATP in a sample fluid. It would be worth buying one of these kits to what people actually inject versus what is added to the vial.

Bgainz2100 said:

Yeah I’m actually trying to stay away from insulin for right now. That’s why I was wondering if I needed it while using hgh. Because I’ve read mixed things about it.

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Futuredadbod said:

Also very good advice.

And start low with insulin, 5iu pre workout and start with only 5iu per day. Don't double up pre and post until you're more experienced. Insulin is dangerous and you can easily die if you take too much. Never under ANY circumstance take insulin before bed.


Hgh alone, completely safe. Rich P ran like 20iu a day lol.

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10iu per day has yielded some great results.

psauce said:

The phosphoanhydride bonds will cleave pretty easily unless they're kept in a narrow pH range and properly buffered.

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That is precisely how the product is manufactured. Shortly after injection you will notice an elevation in heart rate, as opposed to a depression. This would be very obvious to anyone who decided to say, inject 1ml and then lay down on the couch and watch TV instead of go train.

Usually use Qsc or Opti but decided to try these guys out. Took 3 days t/a. Just incase anyone on the fence

Dookierich said:

Usually use Qsc or Opti but decided to try these guys out. Took 3 days t/a. Just incase anyone on the fence

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Please let us know how you like the product once you have sufficient time to test it out! Thank you for being a customer.

Started doing 2iu in the night before bed,
Do you suggest I do more 2iu, and how long untill you see results? I know people say about 6 months and up. But lets say I increase the ius will it make any difference?
Thank you in advance.

Bgainz2100 said:

What’s your guys opinion on running insulin with hgh is it necessary? Or can I run say 4iu per day hgh without insulin?

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The reason we use insulin is to control blood sugar. Start monitoring your blood sugar and if it's getting into prediabetic ranges, it's time to start a basal insulin protocol.

dick_starbuck said:

The reason we use insulin is to control blood sugar. Start monitoring your blood sugar and if it's getting into prediabetic ranges, it's time to start a basal insulin protocol.

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To be honest im a pussy when it comes to insulin, just dont want to fuck it up lol . Hopefully I wont be a diabetic (family history) if i do some research and knowledge myself ill look into it, I seen alot of guys die from it thats why.

Zaddydre said:

To be honest im a pussy when it comes to insulin, just dont want to fuck it up lol . Hopefully I wont be a diabetic (family history) if i do some research and knowledge myself ill look into it, I seen alot of guys die from it thats why.

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You'd be hard pressed to kill yourself using insulin. If you can do math, you can use insulin. It's better to use it, and not be a diabetic, than be a "pussy" about it.

Basal insulin, Lantus, is incredibly forgiving.

You only need enough to supplement your natural insulin production, insulin usage does not shut down natural production. Something like 10-20iu of Lantus a day is enough to prevent high blood sugar and has a very low risk profile.

This is all provided that you are eating like a bodybuilder and measuring your food/carb intake and eating at regular intervals.