I don’t think so personally. My RHR skyrocketed to nearly 100rhr a few weeks back. Since then with Nebivolol, my RHR is down all the way to 78 and I’m still getting the same issues with fragmented sleep. About to start tren as well, god bless my soul.
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Yeah If you weren't sleeping well before the tren than Goodluck man. You're sleep is going to dissappear.
I'm on tren A too currently. 350mg/week. The first two weeks were rough in terms of sleep as my body was adjusting to it, made the mistake of ramping to 75mg tren ed (525/week), made the sleep horrible, so I dropped back down to 350 and all seems to be well. Sleeping a lot better now.
With that said though you have me rethinking the way I might do the GH. Was going to split it pre workout (1 hour or so before) and PM (directly before bed so I'm hopefully asleep by the time it peaks), and I will still experiment with this protocol, but if the sleep gets worse for some reason, I might shift the GH dosing to pre and post workout. I just hope my heart rate doesn't skyrocket when I add the GH. Don't want to have to take a beta blocker
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All of our local USPS employees are on our Supreme batch, 2-3 IU pre bed. The improved sleep quality helps them get shit done.
I’ll be honest with you, Nebivolol just became my favorite ancillary of all time. 25% reduction in RHR, awesome feelings of well being, 100% reduction in anxiety, and a noticeable increase in endurance; all at 5mg. Nebivolol has also been shown to positively remodel the heart.
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Mostly would just prefer to keep the ancilliries as minimal as possible, unless absolutely needed.
But all the benefits you just layed out do sound very appealing, I'll definitely consider it if my RHR goes up a bunch. Do you find it makes you sleepy/lethargic though? I used to take propranolol (a beta blocker) and found it killed my workouts (because it's an adrenaline blocker as well) and made me tired the rest of the day, but maybe it's just the compound?
Also side note, really looking forward to trying your supreme kits k4l. Should help take things to the next level, physique wise. Very very excited for this next step
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Just wanted to leave a positive review for these guys. I’ve been running the hgh for about 4 months now and have seen a lot of benefit so far. Muscle feels fuller even while on a lower dose of test, good sleep, hair, nails, skin, everything just feels better. Very happy with the T/A as well, product usually arrives within 5 days of payment. Thank you guys for providing the community with a quality product at an affordable price. I’ll be looking forward to that AAS line when it drops 
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I take 160mg Propanolol SR daily split 80mg AM/PM and don’t have those issues. But funnily enough, when I tried taking just 2.5mg Nebivolol, I experienced fatigue if I took it in the AM, sleeplessness if I took it in the PM, an almost nauseous feeling for a few hours after taking it, and it made my feel anxious almost constantly, like my hands would be shaking as if it was raising my RHR instead. I lasted a week before I tapped out and switched back to Propanolol. Different bodies, different responses.
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My Whoop hasn't noticed a change in RHR during sleep - so I don't think that's the root cause. One think I could do is drop the GH for a couple of weeks and see what happens, but I'm not sure I'm that concerned
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Placed order last week. Product received in same week even with usps 2 day delay.
My first time using k4L. Used pharma in past. I’ll be taking 4iu split, 700mg test, 300mg mast, 2000mg Metformin, 100mcg t4. Doing a little recomp getting ready for summer.
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My first time using k4L. Used pharma in past. I’ll be taking 4iu split, 700mg test, 300mg mast, 2000mg Metformin, 100mcg t4. Doing a little recomp getting ready for summer.
Btw, pretty intense vacuum on first bottle reconstituted.
Oh great thanks a lot man I'm already on the bad list with the Mrs and now you gotta do this?? Fuck My Life
First off that IGF number is awesome do you have any idea what it was prior to starting? I'm gonna guess you were already upper 300s but nonetheless that's a solid number....Now I gotta say the Test and Free test numbers are sweet as well bro I'm liking those a lot. Are you on Proviron? Judging by that Free Test number I'm gonna say yes, but if you aren't then holy shit go out and get some Proviron and watch that number break the testing equipment
Thanks brotha! I didn’t have a starting reference unfortunately, but I did get a result of 333ng after a couple months of use, on orals post workout. I’m guessing the impaired liver function might have had something to do it with it.First off that IGF number is awesome do you have any idea what it was prior to starting? I'm gonna guess you were already upper 300s but nonetheless that's a solid number....Now I gotta say the Test and Free test numbers are sweet as well bro I'm liking those a lot. Are you on Proviron? Judging by that Free Test number I'm gonna say yes, but if you aren't then holy shit go out and get some Proviron and watch that number break the testing equipment
And no Proviron. That’s off of 1G test and 900mg Primo. No AI. I’ve never used Proviron before. Would there be a benefit to increasing that number even further at this point? If so, I’m all for it.
1g of test is a solid amount and that free test number without the use of Proviron is impressive bro. Can't answer your question with any science based factual info about whether or not adding Proviron would change things dramatically for you, but I can say with certainty that if you added it to your current cycle you'd probably be over 2,000 at which point you'd wanna add an AI as a precaution anyways. Proviron changed the game for me I run it year round now. Even when cruising I'll still take 25mg a day. Experiment with it, and run it for a couple of months at a dose of 50-75mg a day and see if it's making a difference for you is probably the best advice I could give you. 75mg a day is my sweet spot I've run it higher but I didn't see the need to stay at that amount the returns didn't seem to be worth the risk at the higher amounts so I dropped it back down and found 75 to be my magic spot
Could you describe how do you feel or see between taking Proviron and not taking it ? I'm at my 12 week of 16 ~ 20 weeks cycle: 600 Test E / 400 MastE/ 300 Deca, and i added Proviron since Ive started, 50mg ED. my first experience with Proviron.