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bjjgear said:

Retatrutide would be a great option...

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Have you tried it yet?

The_Mentalorian said:

Have you tried it yet?

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I haven’t, have you? I’ve heard it’s a nice upgrade from Tirz as it agonizes not only GLP and GIP but also Glucagon.

bjjgear said:

Yes!

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Yes

bjjgear said:

I haven’t, have you? I’ve heard it’s a nice upgrade from Tirz as it agonizes not only GLP and GIP but also Glucagon.

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I haven’t either. The price has been kind of a deterrent since the dosing can go all the way up to 12mg but I’ve heard the same so I’ve been looking for anecdotal reports. Tirz has been working great so far though so I’ll wait until the price comes down and we get a reliable source.

The_Mentalorian said:

I haven’t either. The price has been kind of a deterrent since the dosing can go all the way up to 12mg but I’ve heard the same so I’ve been looking for anecdotal reports. Tirz has been working great so far though so I’ll wait until the price comes down and we get a reliable source.

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Stick with Tirzepatide - I tried Reta from two sources on another board and I had the gastro side effects, felt like crap. So I switched back to Tirzepatide.

Everyone is different but as of right now I've not read many good reviews (yet). I'm going stick with the source I use for Tirzepatide now until @kits4less gets them in kits... I'll be waiting like a child on those $300 kits for 10, 10mg vials.

bradyfan127 said:

Stick with Tirzepatide - I tried Reta from two sources on another board and I had the gastro side effects, felt like crap. So I switched back to Tirzepatide.

Everyone is different but as of right now I've not read many good reviews (yet). I'm going stick with the source I use for Tirzepatide now until @kits4less gets them in kits... I'll be waiting like a child on those $300 kits for 10, 10mg vials.

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Mind sharing your dosing/stats/goals regarding tirz?

bjjgear said:

Mind sharing your dosing/stats/goals regarding tirz?

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Well I'm early 30s, 6ft tall. If that matters. Haha.

Main goal was to cut 17lbs gained on depression medication. I've lost 24lbs. I began late January… think the 26th I started at 2.5mg, then slowly have gone up. I could pull my emails to see when I ordered from a different source (first time). Body fat is down 5%. It's at 11.4% which is pretty good given short period of time. I'm at 172.2lbs. I plan to take finish up the 4 vials I have left then take a break.

I also dose K4L GH 2-3 IU in the morning. That's just my preference.

So that's little over 8 weeks, right? My diet is plant based but throw in fish once a week. Lots of greens and high fiber foods along with supplements I take. Nothing too intense. My main goal was to lose the weight.

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Running a previous batch right now, Deluxe C, and three weeks in… Running 2-3IU, each morning as mentioned in previous post. The batch tested no. Dimer. Actually increased to 4 IU today, will see how my body reacts.

My sleep has improved significantly compared to the previous domestic source. I don't notice any sides. No water retention around ankles or legs. My skin is not as dry which I'm not sure if it's weather or the GH. Overall I feel great.

Sooooo at this point I have no plans to switch suppliers unless @kits4less refuses to sell me product (picking favourites). Kidding!

bradyfan127 said:

Running a previous batch right now, Deluxe C, and three weeks in… Running 2-3IU, each morning as mentioned in previous post. The batch tested no. Dimer. Actually increased to 4 IU today, will see how my body reacts.

My sleep has improved significantly compared to the previous domestic source. I don't notice any sides. No water retention around ankles or legs. My skin is not as dry which I'm not sure if it's weather or the GH. Overall I feel great.

Sooooo at this point I have no plans to switch suppliers unless @kits4less refuses to sell me product (picking favourites). Kidding!

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Supreme A 10 IU daily here. Getting an IGF-1 test done this week and will publish results soon. My 6 week average is only 5.4 IU though due to trips, etc. I'll be getting another test done in 6 weeks with a 6 week average of 10 IU to see the purest number. I'll then probably back off a bit... maybe...

At 10 IU, I have zero sides. No water retention, no numbing, no pain. Just gains.

bjjgear said:

Supreme A 10 IU daily here. Getting an IGF-1 test done this week and will publish results soon. My 6 week average is only 5.4 IU though due to trips, etc. I'll be getting another test done in 6 weeks with a 6 week average of 10 IU to see the purest number. I'll then probably back off a bit... maybe...

At 10 IU, I have zero sides. No water retention, no numbing, no pain. Just gains.

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That's badass brother… seriously. I'm anxious to see your test. K4L is the real deal. Definitely everyone updated. I've never ran 10 IU daily... Only up to 6.

What medium and long term benefits have you all seen on increased dosages between 4, 6, 8 10 iu and up ? The saying goes “as much as you can tolerate and afford”. Assuming diet and training are spot on, what has been everyone’s experience?

1dayatatime said:

What medium and long term affects have you all seen on the various dosages between 4, 6, 8 10 iu and up dosages? The saying goes “as much as you can tolerate and afford”. Assuming diet and training are spot on, what has been everyone’s experience?

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Honestly I think it varies. Ummm I some significant water retention from a well known domestic source late 2023… my ankles were the worst and hands. Went away pretty quick but had high dimer which I'm not sure if there is a correlation. I think there's quite a few variables.

Some people have joint pains and inflammation, at least I've read this on another forum. So maybe adding certain peptides to help reduce inflammation pain may help. I'm not sure.

For me, if I run 6 IU daily, mostly plant based diet low sodium, with no sides… I'm sticking with the supplier. My old guy skipped out due to some unforseen circumstances so I've shopped around over the past year until now.

bradyfan127 said:

Honestly I think it varies. Ummm I some significant water retention from a well known domestic source late 2023… my ankles were the worst and hands. Went away pretty quick but had high dimer which I'm not sure if there is a correlation. I think there's quite a few variables.

Some people have joint pains and inflammation, at least I've read this on another forum. So maybe adding certain peptides to help reduce inflammation pain may help. I'm not sure.

For me, if I run 6 IU daily, mostly plant based diet low sodium, with no sides… I'm sticking with the supplier. My old guy skipped out due to some unforseen circumstances so I've shopped around over the past year until now.

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Thanks man. More Interested in what benefits folks see on the increasing dosages? I probably worded that badly. Do you see a benefit from the higher dosages? If so what were they?

1dayatatime said:

Thanks man. More Interested in what benefits folks see on the increasing dosages? I probably worded that badly. Do you see a benefit from the higher dosages? If so what were they?

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No you're good. Skin, sleep, mood, healing are likely (don't quote me) some of the initial benefits. Libido benefits too. My anxiety has improved tremendously over the years after I started running GH. I've never had a bad experience so far as me saying screw this, I'm done.

But overall sleep and mood are the two that I love from running up to 6 IU. I start lower just to avoid water retention, if there is any, then I get up to 6 maybe I'll jump up more. Those are my benefits.

Thanks man!

I guess it’s time to buy some gh. I would just use 5iu before bed. Economy would prob relate to 2-3iu of the good stuff

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Thanks man. More Interested in what benefits folks see on the increasing dosages? I probably worded that badly. Do you see a benefit from the higher dosages? If so what were they?

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2-3 IU daily is optimal for fat loss for many.

I have always found 4IU to be optimal for athletic recovery.

Then at 10 IU, my sleep is improved. I never saw sleep benefits at the lower volumes. I pin 2 IU in the morning and 8 IU right before bed.

That's all I can say for 100% certain.

My old source's product gave me horrible sides at 6 IU - the CTS would wake me up. As soon as I switched to these gentlemen, it went away, so I'm a happy dude.

hulk411 said:

I guess it’s time to buy some gh. I would just use 5iu before bed. Economy would prob relate to 2-3iu of the good stuff

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Many would suggest it'd equate to 5 IU of name brand. I'm planning on doing a 120 day high dose run of $$$ name brand to compare both labs and experience to k4l and suspect afterward I'll feel like I wasted my money.

bjjgear said:

Many would suggest it'd equate to 5 IU of name brand. I'm planning on doing a 120 day high dose run of $$$ name brand to compare both labs and experience to k4l and suspect afterward I'll feel like I wasted my money.

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No I doubt 5iu of the economy would equate to 5iu of the good stuff
Maybe 2-3 iu tops