1st cycle

[Musclemilk001]

When did you first start to notice gains on a Test C only / first cycle?

 

[JamesDoe350]

you wont notice anything on test only because its slow acting and "isnt fun" you just wont be sore, can lift that same muscle the next day, and can lift harder. you PROBABLY wont wake up in 3-4 weeks when you have full saturation and feel like superman. sorry to ruin it for you.

keep in mind gear isnt the answer to build size and strength. FOOD is the answer and gear helps you get there. i cant stress that enough. you can take a gram of everything and if you dont eat you wont grow. good luck! make sure you eat then worry about your compounds.

 

[Gbunk]

I disagree with the above commenter respectfully. I believe a lot of people get good decent gains on their first cycle as long as they do it right. Receptors are “virgin” and have never achieved super physiologic levels before. I put on some okay mass my first cycle but how much I can’t remember.

 

[Misterbrooks]

My first cycle was test only and about week 4 i noticed I was not as sore, by week 6 I could really tell. You won't see much honestly, or I didn't, but I sure felt it and could feel it in my recovery. After your pct I would recommend an oral with test as a good second cycle is test and an oral. Mine was test and dbol, personal favorite.

 

[md8890041]

you wont notice anything on test only because its slow acting and "isnt fun" you just wont be sore, can lift that same muscle the next day, and can lift harder. you PROBABLY wont wake up in 3-4 weeks when you have full saturation and feel like superman. sorry to ruin it for you.

keep in mind gear isnt the answer to build size and strength. FOOD is the answer and gear helps you get there. i cant stress that enough. you can take a gram of everything and if you dont eat you wont grow. good luck! make sure you eat then worry about your compounds.

I have to agree with this.. test only just "isn't fun"..

 

[JamesDoe350]

I disagree with the above commenter respectfully. I believe a lot of people get good decent gains on their first cycle as long as they do it right. Receptors are “virgin” and have never achieved super physiologic levels before. I put on some okay mass my first cycle but how much I can’t remember.

thanks for the respect and not dissing me. everyone responds and reacts and has their own experiences. thanks for the input and again, for not ripping me a new one just cause you dont agree. lol i didnt like test only. test and eq was much better. to each their own and im glad you had a good time on your first test only go

 

[Musclemilk001]

Thank u guys, I’ve been pushing hard in the gym and with my diet I can feel my muscles rounding out and a bit more solid just hoping to gain at least 3-5 pounds of muscle. Probably will throw in anavar or a oral 2nd cycle not sure wich is best oral

 

[Luxferro]

For me personally, I was hypogonadal (total T 200), so my first cycle was insane in terms of gains.

The difference between being low T and being on TRT alone is roughly equivalent to the difference between having normal T and getting on steroids IMO

 

[JamesDoe350]

Thank u guys, I’ve been pushing hard in the gym and with my diet I can feel my muscles rounding out and a bit more solid just hoping to gain at least 3-5 pounds of muscle. Probably will throw in anavar or a oral 2nd cycle not sure wich is best oral

play it safe and you can run var or tbol. those are pretty mild, youll get good gains. get var from a known good source or you could end up with dbol, which assuming youre a guy, WONT really matter a bunch other than physical changes wont line up with var. dbol will help you throw on size but if you dont change the contractile muscle youll loose it when you come off. tbol is dbols baby brother and has no e2 sides and its what a lot of athletes use! i liked var but its so $$. be careful throwing in orals because your liver lipids will raise so either low dose them or run a support. n2guard has a lot of good reviews but its up to you. personally i dont think orals are worth it. stressing the liver just doesnt work for me then i have to add a liver protection. thats my opinion. superdrol and anadrol will kick your ass but they are pretty hardcore orals i wouldnt start on those unless you really research the risk behind them. halo is an extremely strong aas but it has a lot of bad sides and i would stay away from it on your first cycle. luxferro will hate me for telling you this but IMO adding npp or eq into the mix would be a better choice. he hates nandrolone lol but i love it. do your research, be smart, stay healthy, monitor blood pressure. you dont have to go from natty to looking like your 2 weeks out from a show on your first cycle. this is a long game and we can only put on so much muscle. diet is king when it comes to this. PED just help the diet. dont forget that

 

[deathcore]

When did you first start to notice gains on a Test C only / first cycle?

Your first test cycle should be one of the best (if done properly). I added at least 20lbs to my frame with Sustanon only and kept it all. Really felt it around week 4 for me.

 

[cocololo]

For me around week 2, I felt libido differences. At 3.5 weeks, I felt the strength gains were more than normal(noticeable but slight). At 6 weeks, very noticeable effects on looks and strength in the gym.

 

[coupastar]

and doing test only isn't just for mass gains its for newbs that don't know how your body will react so if you add a ton of stuff you won't know were the problems are coming from if they do happen. coming from a newb himself. im on trt and doing anavar and 2 weeks in and I don't feel or see anything ...

 

[Gainscity]

Your first cycle you should notice a lot of gains. Have your diet+exercise plan in check before you start. You won’t go anywhere without that. I noticed differences starting in week 5. I did 400mg/wk Test E for my first cycle and I gained 20lbs by the end of it.

After doing various combinations of compounds I can agree now Test only is kind of boring. But test will grow you that is a fact!!!

 

[JamesDoe350]

and doing test only isn't just for mass gains its for newbs that don't know how your body will react so if you add a ton of stuff you won't know were the problems are coming from if they do happen. coming from a newb himself. im on trt and doing anavar and 2 weeks in and I don't feel or see anything ...

what is your var dosage? 20?

 

[coupastar]

what is your var dosage? 20?

40 . 20 morning ,20 evening

 

[JamesDoe350]

40 . 20 morning ,20 evening

kinda low dose IMO. var is a good compound, safe and youll see gains and fat loss from it. its not dbol or sdrol where you blow up in two weeks

 

[coupastar]

kinda low dose IMO. var is a good compound, safe and youll see gains and fat loss from it. its not dbol or sdrol where you blow up in two weeks

You would talk me into taking more!

 

[Gullinbursti]

Thank u guys, I’ve been pushing hard in the gym and with my diet I can feel my muscles rounding out and a bit more solid just hoping to gain at least 3-5 pounds of muscle. Probably will throw in anavar or a oral 2nd cycle not sure wich is best oral

You should be able to easily gain 3-5 pounds of muscle on your first test cycle. I'd say closer to ten if you're eating enough, meaning gaining weight weekly and actually training hard(but like really training hard not what most people think is hard)

 

[JamesDoe350]

You would talk me into taking more!

take what you feel is needed. everyone is going to have an opinion on what is a blast, cruise, pct etc. 20mg of var is a year round daily amount with "no lipid impact" while youre at 40....

personally i dont like orals, the risk to reward isnt there for me, i understand why they are used, they have a great place, but id rather just pin a short acting or no ester hormones.
liver is pretty strong and if you keep the dose low, proper cycling and proper supplements with no drinking, youll bounce back most likely.

 

[kuryu44]

You can plot your serum levels on steroidcalc to see when your body is at peak levels for your dose. Usually this happens within 2-3 weeks for most test esters and most people comment on having gains within 4-5 weeks.