3rd Blast, PIP still occurring even with new source/different carrier oil

[HeavyHotDog]

As title says, simply trying to figure out if there’s anything I can do. I use 27g for my pins, needle always about 1" beneath skin. Was previously using GSO and am now using a source with MIG840. All three blasts have been Test E 250mg/mL. Even on cruise, there is PIP, but due to very tiny injection size, it’s much less noticeable. Every time I get minor redness, and a bulbous, painful lump at pin site. Maybe it’s just a part of the game?

Oil is at room temp, is it worthwhile to try heating it with a hairdryer pre-pin?

Thanks.

 

[yelruP]

Sounds like your injection technique is shit if you always get pip. You can try heating, it should help

 

[thallandchill]

Could be the Mig, some people have issues with it. Your body just might now like it.

 

[thallandchill]

HeavyHotDog" pid='58747' dateline='1561571368:

As title says, simply trying to figure out if there’s anything I can do. I use 27g for my pins, needle always about 1" beneath skin. Was previously using GSO and am now using a source with MIG840. All three blasts have been Test E 250mg/mL. Even on cruise, there is PIP, but due to very tiny injection size, it’s much less noticeable. Every time I get minor redness, and a bulbous, painful lump at pin site. Maybe it’s just a part of the game?

Oil is at room temp, is it worthwhile to try heating it with a hairdryer pre-pin?

Thanks.

Could be the Mig, some people’s bodies just don’t like it. You could be one of 'em.

 

[mdwilson2011]

Assuming you’re not underdeveloped at 150lbs,it’s probably worth looking at your technique as yelrup said. One thing that helped me starting out was making sure the alcohol dries completely before injecting. If the site is still wet, some guys think the alcohol can get pushed under the skin with the needle, causing irritation.

Also, make sure your needle length is appropriate for the site. 1" for glutes, and 1/2" for everywhere else.

But as the hodge twins say, do whatever the FUCK you wanna do

 

[Beetlejuice]

Yeah try adjusting your technique. Heating up the oil can help. Massaging the injection site afterwards. Being careful you’re not moving the needle around tearing up the muscle during injection. Not pushing the oil in too fast. Going deep enough. I’ve heard about people freezing their injection needle but I’ve never tried it. Who knows maybe you’re just not used to it

 

[blvck.scvle]

I don’t react well to Mig but have never had pip from GSO.

 

[Allstar1233]

The only gear that I get absolutely zero pip, even ace, is from l&l. The smoothest gear in the game. But definitely your technique has something to do with it.

FWIW I inject straight into the gooch and its smooth as silk

 

[HeavyHotDog]

blvck.scvle" pid='58823' dateline='1561621037:

I don’t react well to Mig but have never had pip from GSO.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I may order some Test brewed with GSO from a different source, for the sake of trying.

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Allstar1233" pid='58859' dateline='1561645478:

The only gear that I get absolutely zero pip, even ace, is from l&l. The smoothest gear in the game. But definitely your technique has something to do with it.

FWIW I inject straight into the gooch and its smooth as silk

I don’t think I’ve heard of L&L, that a source or a carrier oil? Smooth enough to inject right into my balls?

 

[blvck.scvle]

I’ve ran test from @“FusionLabs” @“SouthernCompounding” @“WinterPharm” with zero pip whatsoever.

Soco was my go to for test for awhile however fusion has won me over.

 

[yelruP]

blvck.scvle" pid='58919' dateline='1561670610:

I’ve ran test from @“FusionLabs” @“SouthernCompounding” @“WinterPharm” with zero pip whatsoever.

Soco was my go to for test for awhile however fusion has won me over.

I agree fusion is awesome. His test ace, tren ace and deca have all been smooth. I’ve used spartas and cascades test e and both have never caused me any pip even when my hands are extremely shaky. Any of those 3 I’d recommend

 

[HeavyHotDog]

yelruP" pid='58925' dateline='1561671729:

blvck.scvle" pid='58919' dateline='1561670610:

I’ve ran test from @“FusionLabs” @“SouthernCompounding” @“WinterPharm” with zero pip whatsoever.

Soco was my go to for test for awhile however fusion has won me over.

I agree fusion is awesome. His test ace, tren ace and deca have all been smooth. I’ve used spartas and cascades test e and both have never caused me any pip even when my hands are extremely shaky. Any of those 3 I’d recommend

Thank you both for the recs.

 

[Allstar1233]

HeavyHotDog" pid='58906' dateline='1561663477:

blvck.scvle" pid='58823' dateline='1561621037:

I don’t react well to Mig but have never had pip from GSO.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I may order some Test brewed with GSO from a different source, for the sake of trying.

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Allstar1233" pid='58859' dateline='1561645478:

The only gear that I get absolutely zero pip, even ace, is from l&l. The smoothest gear in the game. But definitely your technique has something to do with it.

FWIW I inject straight into the gooch and its smooth as silk

I don’t think I’ve heard of L&L, that a source or a carrier oil? Smooth enough to inject right into my balls?

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Lock and load it’s a source.

 

[alphaproject]

Every pin should not give PIP unless you really are messing something up. Some guys avoid certain areas like Quads because if they blow up like sausages, you’re boned for like 10 days. You should inject as slow as possible and heat up the oil on a candle warmer for 2 min. Plus at only 250mg… you can EASILY split that up into 125mg x 2. The only gear that would give pip even at that dose might be higher TEST like 400 or Prop 200. Other saud DHB can do it or Primo Ace. Regular Test E however should give minor pain at best.

 

[HeavyHotDog]

alphaproject" pid='59130' dateline='1561788716:

Every pin should not give PIP unless you really are messing something up. Some guys avoid certain areas like Quads because if they blow up like sausages, you’re boned for like 10 days. You should inject as slow as possible and heat up the oil on a candle warmer for 2 min. Plus at only 250mg… you can EASILY split that up into 125mg x 2. The only gear that would give pip even at that dose might be higher TEST like 400 or Prop 200. Other saud DHB can do it or Primo Ace. Regular Test E however should give minor pain at best.

Thanks - will begin heating oil pre pin.

 

[alphaproject]

How’s it going now? Any differences?

 

[HeavyHotDog]

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How’s it going now? Any differences?

Apologies for delay.

Heated my M840 Test E 250 for ~3 minutes with a hairdryer at a 2 inch distance. The oil was definitely between warm and hot. My injections, as always, are 25g needles, fluid motion in, no shaking of hands or needle, approximately 30 seconds per mL of fluid.

…Still getting swelling bulges that are significant (hard and sore to the touch), and pain that is bearable, but not fun. (Hurts to roll around in bed when I inject glutes or V glutes. Hurts to stretch my glutes in any direction when doing daily stretches. Interestingly, my HCG injections, which are just in BAC water and about .3 mL, have zero pip entirely.

So, I will try another source, using both their GSO and M840 Test E 250. One of the several that have been mentioned by you guys.

Thanks!

 

[system]

Sterile oil. Dilute your shots with 1:1 or 2:1 (oil:gear) and report back. Alpha pharma on amazon/eBay for under $10

 

[appropionate]

I’ve seen people get PIP from all kinds of carrier oils and test straight from german pharmacy as well - I’ve since discovered that sesame oil agrees with even these people the best, so I suggest getting a vial of that to try

 

[HeavyHotDog]

kingofcarbz" pid='60019' dateline='1562614576:

Sterile oil. Dilute your shots with 1:1 or 2:1 (oil:gear) and report back. Alpha pharma on amazon/eBay for under $10

appropionate" pid='60094' dateline='1562649380:

I’ve seen people get PIP from all kinds of carrier oils and test straight from german pharmacy as well - I’ve since discovered that sesame oil agrees with even these people the best, so I suggest getting a vial of that to try

Sesame as a carrier oil, or as a diluent? Do you know anyone in the source list who uses sesame as their carrier?

At least a few of the sources don’t list which carrier oil they use, which is a bit frustrating. Thanks for your input.

@“kingofcarbz” I have sterile grapeseed oil for this exact purpose. Will give it a shot. Literally.