7 vials of Mast P 200, 4 crystallized, 3 completely clear.

[Dexter]

HeathGT" pid='67145' dateline='1567399548:

Yeah I remember him saying that as well. I know everyone is going to say the only way to know is to send one of the vials that won’t crash and one of the crashed vials to jano for testing but either way, it does say SOMETHING if Mast P 200 crashes at room temp and SOME of these vials won’t crash at all even below freezing for over 24 hours right?

It doesn’t inspire confidence.

It’s a qualitative way of determining if you have anything in the vial. If there was anything in it, you’d have at least a tiny crystal somewhere, but I’ve searched with a flashlight and can’t find even a sliver.

Honestly I’m sounding like a tard, but this is bullshit.

Simple solution for me:
1 or 2 vials SoCo crashed Test Acetate 20ml 100mg/ml. Gotta be crashed like my last vial.

I send photos of destroyed clear vials Mast P with label visible. And the mods can delete this thread and I never mention this subject again.

I really don’t want to be bothered with this stuff, I just want to get back to sticking a needle in my ass and enjoying life.

 

[HeathGT]

Next day, uncrashed vial still in the freezer, still no crystalization.

 

[Dexter]

SouthernCompounding" pid='67150' dateline='1567420150:

4/19 would still have been coming from me FWIW. That was the last time any Mast Prop was brewed since it sells slow. We’re also still moving 10mL vials in the Prop 100mL.

SoCo I sent an email 9/2 9:47am to your proton SouthernCompounding [at] protonmail [dot] com.

Got an easy solution to this. Thanks.

 

[JohnnyCashew]

ForceAndFinesse91" pid='67093' dateline='1567358662:

I go milligram for milligram on the mast with test to avoid needing an a.i and thus far ita 100% done its job on that and and ive had the same experince with it

@“ForceAndFinesse91” this seems like valuable information. Is the mast masking the e2 sides or is it confirmed with bloodwork?

@“Dexter” I apologize for the minor derailment and hope you find an answer to this situation

 

[ForceAndFinesse91]

JohnnyCashew" pid='67166' dateline='1567442191:

ForceAndFinesse91" pid='67093' dateline='1567358662:

I go milligram for milligram on the mast with test to avoid needing an a.i and thus far ita 100% done its job on that and and ive had the same experince with it

@“ForceAndFinesse91” this seems like valuable information. Is the mast masking the e2 sides or is it confirmed with bloodwork?

@“Dexter” I apologize for the minor derailment and hope you find an answer to this situation

Its only masking the sides im thinking but there are a good number of reports with bloodwork out there of mast helping keep overall estrogen levels down. I havnt pulled the bloods yet, planning on doing that about the end of next month but my test dose ia 350 mgs a week of prop so the e conversion should stay pretty minimal coparatively…but with all the digging ive done it sure looks like the only real danger of elevated e2 is the sides (to a point). All the really experienced knowledgeable pros ive drawn on for info on this seem to almost unanimously agree on that. A.i’s fuck with lipids and inhibit growth to an extent

 

[JohnnyCashew]

Cool. Thanks for that quick response!

 

[Dexter]

HeathGT" pid='67155' dateline='1567433558:

Next day, uncrashed vial still in the freezer, still no crystalization.

It’s not gonna crystallize.

Best thing to do is take this up privately with SoCo, if everything works out we can get a replacement of some sort.

I’ll let you know if something is worked out via private email.

dexter800protonmail.com

 

[ForceAndFinesse91]

Np man. Bored af cruising the forums anyway. All this laborday free times killin me lol

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Dexter" pid='67174' dateline='1567445595:

HeathGT" pid='67155' dateline='1567433558:

Next day, uncrashed vial still in the freezer, still no crystalization.

It’s not gonna crystallize.

Best thing to do is take this up privately with SoCo, if everything works out we can get a replacement of some sort.

I’ll let you know if something is worked out via private email.

dexter800protonmail.com

Cool that you were thorough on this one. Anybody trying to send any in 4 testing? Making me anxious to start on of my heavily crashed vials XD

 

[Dexter]

ForceAndFinesse91" pid='67175' dateline='1567445664:

Cool that you were thorough on this one. Anybody trying to send any in 4 testing? Making me anxious to start on of my heavily crashed vials XD

I’ve been using the first crashed vial, warm it on a coffee cup heater and give it a shake every 5 minutes.

The first vial I received was packed with crystals, that stuff is loaded because my joints are drying out and starting to ache, elbow, shoulders, even ankles. It dried me out fast. It’s packing a punch.

I would never feel anxious about crashed vials.

 

[ForceAndFinesse91]

Dexter" pid='67179' dateline='1567446871:

ForceAndFinesse91" pid='67175' dateline='1567445664:

Cool that you were thorough on this one. Anybody trying to send any in 4 testing? Making me anxious to start on of my heavily crashed vials XD

I’ve been using the first crashed vial, warm it on a coffee cup heater and give it a shake every 5 minutes.

The first vial I received was packed with crystals, that stuff is loaded because my joints are drying out and starting to ache, elbow, shoulders, even ankles. It dried me out fast. It’s packing a punch.

I would never feel anxious about crashed vials.

Anxious as in exited i started my curremt run with the one mast that i couldnt get to crash. Figured if need the more potent shit more later on lol what are you dosing it at and how frequent?

 

[Dexter]

ForceAndFinesse91" pid='67182' dateline='1567448124:

what are you dosing it at and how frequent?

.7ml x 200mg x .80(subtracting 20% for ester) = 112mg x 3 = 336mg/week. That’s active dose. However I think this vial as loaded with crystals as it was, is probably higher dosed. I’m gonna back off to 100mg/week.

 

[ForceAndFinesse91]

Dexter" pid='67183' dateline='1567448672:

ForceAndFinesse91" pid='67182' dateline='1567448124:

what are you dosing it at and how frequent?

.7ml x 200mg x .80(non estered weight of prop) = 112mg x 3 = 336mg/week. That’s active dose. However I think this vial as loaded with crystals as it was, is probably higher dosed. I’m gonna back off to 100mg/week.

So almost the exact same program im running running. Coming close to the end of the first vial theres for damn sure mast in it but when i hit the crahed vials ill probly end up taking the dose down some or start at what your taking it down 2

 

[Dexter]

ForceAndFinesse91" pid='67184' dateline='1567449020:

So almost the exact same program im running running. Coming close to the end of the first vial theres for damn sure mast in it but when i hit the crahed vials ill probly end up taking the dose down some or start at what your taking it down 2

I would start out with 100mg/week of this crashed stuff. I can’t speak to your vial, what I’m running right now was filled half way with crystals when I received it. The shit was packed, right now it’s almost solid with crystals as i approach the half way mark. That’s why I put in another order for 6 more vials, I was in search of the motherload, Mast per gram is expensive. You buy less then 100grams and you’re spending $10 just on the raws for a 2 gram vial.

 

[Skrackey]

Just so ya’ll know putting gear in the freezer is a horrible way to check for active hormone content. There was a guy doing that for a a source over at Meso. Once he actually sent the gear for testing it came back being what it was supposed to be 300mg/ml of Deca or some shit. He kept going on about how some vials came crashed others didn’t and they wouldn’t crash in the freezer. As of now there is 0 proof those vials are bunk. I have 6 vials of the prop200 in my drawer, all of them came crystal clear.

 

[Dexter]

Skrackey" pid='67187' dateline='1567452373:

Just so ya’ll know putting gear in the freezer is a horrible way to check for active hormone content. There was a guy doing that for a a source over at Meso. Once he actually sent the gear for testing it came back being what it was supposed to be 300mg/ml of Deca or some shit. He kept going on about how some vials came crashed others didn’t and they wouldn’t crash in the freezer. As of now there is 0 proof those vials are bunk. I have 6 vials of the prop200 in my drawer, all of them came crystal clear.

Do you have a link to the Meso source? Would it be PharmaSourceEU?

What’s your source for your prop200 Mast, if it was from SoCo, was it from 4/19. Can you snap some pictures of these 6 vials? Have you been using these clear vials from SoCo?

I’ve got vials of Mast from another seller as well that aren’t crashed, but that’s another brewer with vials that all look the same.

Think about your 6 vials all clear…that’s consistency. Now imagine you purchased 7 vials, one was packed half way with crystals, the other 3 25% and the other 3 clear with nothing.

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I’m asking the mods to delete this thread at this point.

It’s 3 vials at $105

I don’t really give a shit anymore.

If SoCo reads this, sorry for the trouble, your rep is good here and on meso, best of luck and enjoy your vacation.