Addition to my long terrm cruise+?

[dick_starbuck]

im just breaking your balls. i dont necessarily disagree with what you said.
why wouldnt I want to take 10mg dbol though?
I just dont think primo or mast is worth it. I can take 10mg anavar and really feel it, but not so much with 100mg-200mg mast or primo.

Personally I don't think there is ever a reason to take dbol, but to each there own. I'll spare the forum another diatribe on that one.

I get what you mean by "feel it", but remember that drugs work whether you feel it or not. I'd prefer to not "feel" anything and just see what changes in the mirror and in the gym. My entire off season last year was 200mg test, 300mg primo, 100mg deca, and low dose hgh with slin on my high carb days. I didn't "feel" much of anything but I did add ten pounds of stage weight.

 

[DHT]

Personally I don't think there is ever a reason to take dbol, but to each there own. I'll spare the forum another diatribe on that one.

I get what you mean by "feel it", but remember that drugs work whether you feel it or not. I'd prefer to not "feel" anything and just see what changes in the mirror and in the gym. My entire off season last year was 200mg test, 300mg primo, 100mg deca, and low dose hgh with slin on my high carb days. I didn't "feel" much of anything but I did add ten pounds of stage weight.

yeah i get what you're saying but when im talking about feel, i mean pump in the gym and strength, not sides.
This time around im tryin to do the same thing as you, and not feel like im on anything, outside of the gym.
i just dont do well with a lot of compounds so im trying to find a solution
I need to continue with adding something to my TRT because im at the point where life usually gets in the way of training/diet or an injury happens
so this time I want to keep my foot on the accelerator just a little bit to finally get past this sticking point

 

[Gbunk]

This is sort of off topic but OP, if you really had your glands removed, you wouldn’t get a lump even at 200 e2.. the gland is what grows and if the gland is gone, how can it grow? Maybe what you are feeling is not a gland or maybe they didn’t remove all of the gland if that is the case.

 

[Sms7829]

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This is sort of off topic but OP, if you really had your glands removed, you wouldn’t get a lump even at 200 e2.. the gland is what grows and if the gland is gone, how can it grow? Maybe what you are feeling is not a gland or maybe they didn’t remove all of the gland if that is the case.

It’s rare but sometimes they miss some of the gland so that’s very possible

 

[DHT]

Personally I don't think there is ever a reason to take dbol, but to each there own. I'll spare the forum another diatribe on that one.

I get what you mean by "feel it", but remember that drugs work whether you feel it or not. I'd prefer to not "feel" anything and just see what changes in the mirror and in the gym. My entire off season last year was 200mg test, 300mg primo, 100mg deca, and low dose hgh with slin on my high carb days. I didn't "feel" much of anything but I did add ten pounds of stage weight.

just got some dbol, did 10mg , felt great. half life is only 4 hours so idont know how much muscle gain I can get from 10mg pre workout but definately great for the workout itself atleast

waiting for the diatribe

 

[dick_starbuck]

just got some dbol, did 10mg , felt great. half life is only 4 hours so idont know how much muscle gain I can get from 10mg pre workout but definately great for the workout itself atleast

waiting for the diatribe

To cut it short, Dbol is likely one of the most neurotoxic steroid available and doesn't offer much benefit for the risk profile. If I was going to take an oral it would likely only be during contest prep and dbol is pretty shit for maintaining a hard and dry physique.

 

[DHT]

To cut it short, Dbol is likely one of the most neurotoxic steroid available and doesn't offer much benefit for the risk profile. If I was going to take an oral it would likely only be during contest prep and dbol is pretty shit for maintaining a hard and dry physique.

ive never heard of dbol being neurotoxic before.

 

[dick_starbuck]

ive never heard of dbol being neurotoxic before.

All androgens are to one degree or another. Dbol just happens to be one of the most.

 

[Bvici22]

My hair thinned a lot more from winstrol and var compared to primo which I’m currently using to control e2 at a low dose. Haven’t used mast yet but was thinking about running it after I run out of my primo and get some labs but haven’t decided completely. Been told that Mast is a feel good aa but I like the dryness, vascularity, and fuller look primo is giving me so might just bump got 1:1 with test rather than 2:1 I have been going with. I’m going to stay clear of orals for a bit

 

[DHT]

All androgens are to one degree or another. Dbol just happens to be one of the most.

well i fell in love with dbol, i thought we would be together for months. It cured my depression.
but today i noticed I got a lump on my nipple from only a 10mg dose on friday, a 10mg dose on monday and a 5mg dose on tuesday.
my estrogen without the dbol is 25 pgmll

im very disapointed.
especially because i paid for my glands to be removed 2 years ago.

I don't want to believe i can't handle 10mg dbol, Ill try it again in a few days, I will admit that i was 48 hours late on my aromasin dose on the day of my first dbol dose and maybe the last time I took aromasin (sunday) I didnt take it with enough fats or something.
I really dont want to give up on her.
I didn't even get a lump from my estrogen being in the 60s for months on TRT, so its crazy that Dbol might have brought my estrogen up from 25 to 60+
unless the methylestrogen is the reason OR again I fucked up my aromasin lately.
we will see and i will contact my surgeon
makes me want to fucking cut my nipple open myself, the left nipple is fine, its just hte right....
they did it under local anthesia last time, it was really easy

 

[dick_starbuck]

well i fell in love with dbol, i thought we would be together for months. It cured my depression.
but today i noticed I got a lump on my nipple from only a 10mg dose on friday, a 10mg dose on monday and a 5mg dose on tuesday.
my estrogen without the dbol is 25 pgmll

im very disapointed.
especially because i paid for my glands to be removed 2 years ago.

I don't want to believe i can't handle 10mg dbol, Ill try it again in a few days, I will admit that i was 48 hours late on my aromasin dose on the day of my first dbol dose and maybe the last time I took aromasin (sunday) I didnt take it with enough fats or something.
I really dont want to give up on her.
I didn't even get a lump from my estrogen being in the 60s for months on TRT, so its crazy that Dbol might have brought my estrogen up from 25 to 60+
unless the methylestrogen is the reason OR again I fucked up my aromasin lately.
we will see and i will contact my surgeon
makes me want to fucking cut my nipple open myself, the left nipple is fine, its just hte right....
they did it under local anthesia last time, it was really easy

That's the other reason I don't like dbol, it's methylestrogen not estrogen that it converts to. Nasty stuff.

Thats another reason I stick to the DHT derived stuff for the most part.

 

[holdentudix]

Being over 300mg of anabolic steroids isn't really a cruise. I admire you not wanting to put 2g of gear in your ass a week for the myriad of health issues that could occur, but guys who cruise at 250+ just want to be on all the time. It's like doing roids but not so many that you "get too big".

 

[DHT]

That's the other reason I don't like dbol, it's methylestrogen not estrogen that it converts to. Nasty stuff.

Thats another reason I stick to the DHT derived stuff for the most part.

I guess im going to start doing some low dose Tren A. 10mg ED.
I got no other option really
like Ive said this is about the time i get injured or life happens so I want to push through it and get to a new baseline

my set point is only about 200lbs lean
I would go for NPP but in my experience it doesnt help with the mood and the last thing i need in my life is to take something that could wreck my sex drive/make me sad

 

[dick_starbuck]

I guess im going to start doing some low dose Tren A. 10mg ED.
I got no other option really
like Ive said this is about the time i get injured or life happens so I want to push through it and get to a new baseline

my set point is only about 200lbs lean
I would go for NPP but in my experience it doesnt help with the mood and the last thing i need in my life is to take something that could wreck my sex drive/make me sad

If you think NPP can be detrimental to your mood, I've got bad news for you about tren bro hahaha

 

[DHT]

If you think NPP can be detrimental to your mood, I've got bad news for you about tren bro hahaha

npp made me feel emotional and insecure. Last time I ran tren I chased down a car on foot
back in the day the starter tren dose was 525mg-700 tren a

 

[DHT]

whew i feel it bros, don't know how, but im feelin it
tren cruise activiate

 

[jumdumpster]

i experimented with 20mg of ment on my cruise of 200mg test
shit made a difference for sure strength wise, im sure if i kept going longer size would’ve been added faster too
no idea what my bloodwork looked like on it but probably good enough
i wouldnt add tren. long term tren use you might drop iq points

 

[holdentudix]

whew i feel it bros, don't know how, but im feelin it
tren cruise activiate

Yeah. You're not cruising buddy.

 

[DHT]

i experimented with 20mg of ment on my cruise of 200mg test
shit made a difference for sure strength wise, im sure if i kept going longer size would’ve been added faster too
no idea what my bloodwork looked like on it but probably good enough
i wouldnt add tren. long term tren use you might drop iq points

yeah i wish i could run ment. but considering 10mg dbol gave me gyno in 3 days when my estrogen was at 25pg/ml on my trt dose, i can't.
i could try to experiment with like 1mg per day, as people say thats like more than a "trt" dose but I think even that or 2mg would give me gyno, and wouldnt be worth it

i could just do var again one my lipids recover, but its the thing that wrecks hdl the most so i think its the most unhealthy

does tren actually lower iq points? i haven't looked into it in awhile but last time i checked the argument was that the study was on rats that had 0 estrogen
has there been more research on it?

 

[Sms7829]

yeah i wish i could run ment. but considering 10mg dbol gave me gyno in 3 days when my estrogen was at 25pg/ml on my trt dose, i can't.
i could try to experiment with like 1mg per day, as people say thats like more than a "trt" dose but I think even that or 2mg would give me gyno, and wouldnt be worth it

i could just do var again one my lipids recover, but its the thing that wrecks hdl the most so i think its the most unhealthy

does tren actually lower iq points? i haven't looked into it in awhile but last time i checked the argument was that the study was on rats that had 0 estrogen
has there been more research on it?

Dbol can definitely cause gyno but not a chance in hell it did it in 3 days. Nothing will cause gyno from none that fast not even dbol or ment. If it truly did you already had it and didn’t know and the dbol just exacerbated it quickly. There are signs and symptoms leading up to the actual formation of gyno. It’s impossible develop that fast. Many guys already have it from puberty and don’t even realize it and never do because it never really develops into anything noticeable. If you really got it 3 days into dbol you absolutely already had it and didn’t know it.