Advice on next cycle

[Babadook]

Hello you jacked MF'rs,
Can I get some advice on what my best choice for my next cycle should be?

Stats:
Non competitor - Thinking of doing first show next year.
40yr M
5'11"
205lbs 16% bf (says small composition scale)
5 yrs in gym and meal prepping
TRT @ 250mg/wk
4 previous cycles of 600 test, 600 primo, 100mg var/day.

Currently been slowly cutting - heavy cardio and slight deficit. BF has plateaued and afraid of cutting into gains.

Goal:
To eventually get to 10% BF but also gain 15-20 lean lbs.

Question:
Should I continue to cut to lower BF to see what I've got so far, then bulk from there?
Or, go ahead and bulk now and cut once I'm heavier?

Along with test, been looking at running Masteron with NPP or either of those two with a low dose Tren. Can't decide.
Not afraid of the mast or NPP, kinda nervous about the aggrivation of the tren though.

Thanks for any advice.

 

[Musclechemist7]

easy , stay on test and learn your body to get bf down if you are at 16% i wouldn't bulk and then have to go thru hell to cut later , just bit the bullet and cut now , get over filling out your shirts and strip the fat down

 

[Bluesec]

Hello you jacked MF'rs,
Can I get some advice on what my best choice for my next cycle should be?

Stats:
Non competitor - Thinking of doing first show next year.
40yr M
5'11"
205lbs 16% bf (says small composition scale)
5 yrs in gym and meal prepping
TRT @ 250mg/wk
4 previous cycles of 600 test, 600 primo, 100mg var/day.

Currently been slowly cutting - heavy cardio and slight deficit. BF has plateaued and afraid of cutting into gains.

Goal:
To eventually get to 10% BF but also gain 15-20 lean lbs.

Question:
Should I continue to cut to lower BF to see what I've got so far, then bulk from there?
Or, go ahead and bulk now and cut once I'm heavier?

Along with test, been looking at running Masteron with NPP or either of those two with a low dose Tren. Can't decide.
Not afraid of the mast or NPP, kinda nervous about the aggrivation of the tren though.

Thanks for any advice.

I agree with the first response.

Just commit to your cut, get your diet in check and make some good habits. You will thank yourself later once you've stripped away a good amount of fat as your gains from when you bulk will be vastly more noticeable and as a result when you bulk again you'll have a much easier time with the cut that comes after.

Personally I think Mast can be(and I do) use it in every cycle regardless of my goal because I dont have the hair loss issue and it keeps excess water gain at bay that other compounds may bring with it. In addition it has some interesting and beneficial AI effects as well. I'll usually stack 500 mast E with my cycle and I really dont need to control for AI which helps with the liver as things like adex/asin are pretty tough on it. As for Tren and the "aggravation" you need to keep in mind that some of that stems from the fact that typically tren is used on a cut and while cutting you are typically eating less, training hard, and may have issues with sleep due to the above which all contribute to a general feeling of irritation. So in short - the anecdotes you hear about Tren arent necessarily just because you're running it.

If you want to try tren I would suggest going with ACE and tapering up slightly week by week. If you do a bit of research Tren is extremely powerful so a dose of 200-300 a week is generally fantastic provided you have your diet in check---otherwise you're just gonna be spinning your wheels and perhaps dealing with some sides and not getting the full benefit.

Another thing to consider if you're on the fence with Tren is running Adrol. Adrol is a fantastic oral to use in cutting because about a week or so in you'll notice a big drop in appetite which can help with those late night cravings or going overboard on cheat meal days if you decide to have them. With this I recommend running it, for your first time, at 50mg ED for about two weeks and then dropping it for the same amount of time and continue this through the duration of the cycle if you like it.

 

[bdubnumber5]

I’m running 750mg of Test E, 400mg Tren E, 200mg of tren a, and finishing up the final couple of doses of my 50mg adrol.

I am up weight from 162 -178lbs currrntly. Been on cycle about 6 weeks. This is my favorite cycle cause you have loads of lean gains and shed fat like crazy as long as diets in check (can still cheat a bit) and your working out like a monster.

Good luck Brodie!

 

[JDLift]

For BB'ing comps at the ammy level you will do better being leaner and sacrificing mass than showing up a bit heavier but higher bf%. My honest recommendation is blast a bit of winny (oral or pinned) and masteron plus tbol on top of cruising dose test and starve for a bit. Keep lifting but cut your cals harshly, it'll take 3-4 weeks of this to reach the 180 range and that's about what you wanna be at your height to be good to go on stage for ammy physique. If you want to compete up at mens bodybuilding you're looking at the 240 range at your height however, as you did not mention what you wanna go into but I assume physique.

Winny and Mast will help harden you up and dry you out while preserving strength during the steep deficit, Tbol seems to assist in physical activity in-general (hence athletes love it but this is anecdotal of course) so overall performance will be up and it'll help get you through the day on low calories, test is just to keep your base.

In personal experience gear works in an interesting way where once I have reached a specific body fat level it almost seems impossible to lose that as I bulk. If I bulk from 200 @12% to 240 I'm gonna still be 12% roughly at that size, I don't know a better way to really put it. Cutting first to solidify a low body fat level will make it so bulking just adds clean mass more or less. Others may have studies to reference for this or anecdotes, I think it holds up pretty well though as a general statement about gear usage.

 

[Babadook]

Thanks to all that replied. This has really helped in my decision making. Will continue to cut to a lower BF and bulk after that.

Still debating on the gear but you guy's input is definitely taken into consideration.

Thanks again!