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Anavar and Anadrol for weight gain?

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I'm wanting to put on as much mass as possible for my next cycle, but I think I've had a bad reaction to NPP so Deca isn't on the table. I did a search for "weight gain drugs" and found an article that lists oxandrolone (anavar) and oxymetholone (anadrol)? I always thought anavar was for cutting and anadrol was mainly for strength gains? I've also just started using hgh. Any input is appreciated 🙏
 

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The advice I've recieved so far might as well say "Don't do steroids, just eat more food"....... I'm already eating plenty bro.... You guys know the name of the website you're on, right?
 

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The advice I've recieved so far might as well say "Don't do steroids, just eat more food"....... I'm already eating plenty bro.... You guys know the name of the website you're on, right?
Exactly. People act like when they want to bulk they just stick to the same Test only cycle and "eat more food". Yes we know you eat more food when you're trying to bulk. He's asking what PEDs are good along side food. You know, on a steroid source forum and all.
 

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Exactly. People act like when they want to bulk they just stick to the same Test only cycle and "eat more food". Yes we know you eat more food when you're trying to bulk. He's asking what PEDs are good along side food. You know, on a steroid source forum and all.
There is no such thing as a “bulking” steroid or “cutting” steroid. You can use ANY for either. They use to talk like that decades ago but people have learned more since then. You can “cut” on Deca and you can “bulk” on Masteron.

The difference is food.

Oh wow, that’s what everyone recommended. Hmmm.. imagine that.
 

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There is no such thing as a “bulking” steroid or “cutting” steroid. You can use ANY for either. They use to talk like that decades ago but people have learned more since then. You can “cut” on Deca and you can “bulk” on Masteron.

The difference is food.

Oh wow, that’s what everyone recommended. Hmmm.. imagine that.
Oh here you are again. I know there's no such thing but you know what the man was asking. Just answer his question. Dude you need to chill out. Everyone knows what he was asking. Maybe you're one of those that loves to use Dbol when cutting, but offer some useful advice. Just say Deca or EQ or something. You know don't tell him something that is known to suppress appetite. By most!! Yes I know not everyone is the same but there are different drugs that add mass, water, fat or whatever you want to call it better than others. For the love of God stop trying to sound like your favorite YouTuber and answer the man's question. Asking what steroid would help bulk on a steroid forum. Imagine that
 
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How much lean tissue do you think you can actually accrue over weeks... hell even a year? It's a question someone asks that doesn't know what they're doing. .5 lbs a week of pure muscle would be 26 lbs in a year. That ain't gonna happen even doing everything perfectly unless you're a genetic freak. Anadrol will put on more water. Weight is not the same as lean tissue.
You need more time and consistency not some special drug.
Take as much test as you can handle and then pick another steroid that you get along and run that.
Ask the biggest non genetic freaks what they did and it's never some drug that was missing. It'll be test, gh, and another anabolic while treating eating and training like it's their job.
You can take all the drugs you want but if you can't eat enough the drugs aren't being utilized.
Weight gain is an idiots way of doing things
 

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Oh here you are again. I know there's no such thing but you know what the man was asking. Just answer his question. Dude you need to chill out. Everyone knows what he was asking. Maybe you're one of those that loves to use Dbol when cutting, but offer some useful advice. Just say Deca or EQ or something. You know don't tell him something that is known to suppress appetite. By most!! Yes I know not everyone is the same but there are different drugs that add mass, water, fat or whatever you want to call it better than others. For the love of God stop trying to sound like your favorite YouTuber and answer the man's question. Asking what steroid would help bulk on a steroid forum. Imagine that
You sound as clueless as he does.
What he's asking is stupid
 

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Oh here you are again. I know there's no such thing but you know what the man was asking. Just answer his question. Dude you need to chill out. Everyone knows what he was asking. Maybe you're one of those that loves to use Dbol when cutting, but offer some useful advice. Just say Deca or EQ or something. You know don't tell him something that is known to suppress appetite. By most!! Yes I know not everyone is the same but there are different drugs that add mass, water, fat or whatever you want to call it better than others. For the love of God stop trying to sound like your favorite YouTuber and answer the man's question. Asking what steroid would help bulk on a steroid forum. Imagine that
Food

Food determines “bulk”.

Training determines how much lean muscle you build.

You don’t just take a bulking steroid and grow. You don’t take steroids to put on fat. And the amount of “water weight” is largely dependent on how you eat and what you’re doing. “I added 10 pounds of water” is what noobs say.

Guys sound dumb parroting the old “use dbol and deca to grow”. That’s been said since the 1970s.

Don’t get mad at me just because you don’t know what you’re doing.
 

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You sound as clueless as he does.
What he's asking is stupid
Stupid? So you're saying all steroids are the same? You'll get the same result with NPP as you will with Anavar, just eat more food?..... I don't think I'm the one who sounds stupid here dude
 

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I got on a steroid forum to ask a question and maybe learn something and get some recommendations on which AAS does better at gaining mass than others.... All I got was people calling me stupid, saying there's no such thing as a bulking steroid and weight gain is an idiots way of doing things. Apparently Anavar=Deca=Masteron=Primo, all the same shit. My bad guys, I guess I'll message musclecandy and tell em send me a blend of every anabolic they've got, it's all the same shit anyways. All of you can fuck off, get your fucking estrogen in check girl
 

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I got on a steroid forum to ask a question and maybe learn something and get some recommendations on which AAS does better at gaining mass than others.... All I got was people calling me stupid, saying there's no such thing as a bulking steroid and weight gain is an idiots way of doing things. Apparently Anavar=Deca=Masteron=Primo, all the same shit. My bad guys, I guess I'll message musclecandy and tell em send me a blend of every anabolic they've got, it's all the same shit anyways. All of you can fuck off, get your fucking estrogen in check girl
I got on a steroid forum to ask a question and maybe learn something and get some recommendations on which AAS does better at gaining mass than others.... All I got was people calling me stupid, saying there's no such thing as a bulking steroid and weight gain is an idiots way of doing things. Apparently Anavar=Deca=Masteron=Primo, all the same shit. My bad guys, I guess I'll message musclecandy and tell em send me a blend of every anabolic they've got, it's all the same shit anyways. All of you can fuck off, get your fucking estrogen in check girl
Like I said you're stupid. Hire a coach.
 

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I got on a steroid forum to ask a question and maybe learn something and get some recommendations on which AAS does better at gaining mass than others.... All I got was people calling me stupid, saying there's no such thing as a bulking steroid and weight gain is an idiots way of doing things. Apparently Anavar=Deca=Masteron=Primo, all the same shit. My bad guys, I guess I'll message musclecandy and tell em send me a blend of every anabolic they've got, it's all the same shit anyways. All of you can fuck off, get your fucking estrogen in check girl
Oh well. Sorry buddy.

We can play your stupid game. Fine. Run testosterone 500 mg/week Deca 500 mg/week and pop 50 mg of dbol split into 3 doses every day for the first 4 weeks as a stupid kickstarter. Disregard what you eat. Train like a jacksss doing lots of kickbacks and bosu ball exercises and you’ll grow, brutha. 👍 That’s what you wanted to hear? That’s retarded. A literal chimp could type that out for you.

Yes, all steroids work the same. You use them to assist in muscle growth. They accrete protein during muscle synthesis and they are muscle sparing (that’s why they are called anabolic, btw). Primo and testosterone are excellent examples of how steroids are incorporated in “bulking” cycles and “cutting” cycles. You grow muscle with Masteron or EQ or Nandrolone or Tren. You also maintain muscle in a caloric deficit with any of those same steroids.

You simply CANNOT grow if you don’t eat properly. So the difference between a “bulk” and a “cut” is what and how you eat. You can’t lose fat without eating less calories. This is pretty basic stuff.

You get mad because of your own ignorance.
 

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Oh well. Sorry buddy.

We can play your stupid game. Fine. Run testosterone 500 mg/week Deca 500 mg/week and pop 50 mg of dbol split into 3 doses every day for the first 4 weeks as a stupid kickstarter. Disregard what you eat. Train like a jacksss doing lots of kickbacks and bosu ball exercises and you’ll grow, brutha. 👍 That’s what you wanted to hear? That’s retarded. A literal chimp could type that out for you.

Yes, all steroids work the same. You use them to assist in muscle growth. They accrete protein during muscle synthesis and they are muscle sparing (that’s why they are called anabolic, btw). Primo and testosterone are excellent examples of how steroids are incorporated in “bulking” cycles and “cutting” cycles. You grow muscle with Masteron or EQ or Nandrolone or Tren. You also maintain muscle in a caloric deficit with any of those same steroids.

You simply CANNOT grow if you don’t eat properly. So the difference between a “bulk” and a “cut” is what and how you eat. You can’t lose fat without eating less calories. This is pretty basic stuff.

You get mad because of your own ignorance.
Ooorrrrr just run the exact same compounds and dosages in the off season and prep and just adjust calories. That's probably better. Better yet you guys could say these steroids would work better here at these dosage for this amount of time ALONGSIDE calories. Or better yet tell him your experience with the few compound he asked about AND add your input on food. There's many ways to go at this but the worst way is to ignore his question, act like all compounds at any dose at any time work the same as long as you "eat more or less food".

Edit: to the OP just look in the Compound Experience thread to see what other people use and when and how they used it. Remember it's all personal experience. Try different things. And OF COURSE eat more to gain more and eat less to lose more.
 
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Ooorrrrr just run the exact same compounds and dosages in the off season and prep and just adjust calories. That's probably better. Better yet you guys could say these steroids would work better here at these dosage for this amount of time ALONGSIDE calories. Or better yet tell him your experience with the few compound he asked about AND add your input on food. There's many ways to go at this but the worst way is to ignore his question, act like all compounds at any dose at any time work the same as long as you "eat more or less food".

Edit: to the OP just look in the Compound Experience thread to see what other people use and when and how they used it. Remember it's all personal experience. Try different things. And OF COURSE eat more to gain more and eat less to lose more.
Nobody can tell him the exact doses to run of what for how long. You're as clusess as he is.
It's a question as stupid as his cycle
 

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Ooorrrrr just run the exact same compounds and dosages in the off season and prep and just adjust calories. That's probably better. Better yet you guys could say these steroids would work better here at these dosage for this amount of time ALONGSIDE calories. Or better yet tell him your experience with the few compound he asked about AND add your input on food. There's many ways to go at this but the worst way is to ignore his question, act like all compounds at any dose at any time work the same as long as you "eat more or less food".

Edit: to the OP just look in the Compound Experience thread to see what other people use and when and how they used it. Remember it's all personal experience. Try different things. And OF COURSE eat more to gain more and eat less to lose more.
Like @intensevolume said, who can tell him 250 mg vs 500 mg vs 1,000 mg based on the info he gave?

Dude literally googles “mass gaining drugs” and the google gave him “anavar and anadrol” as a response. Well yea, because ALL steroids are “mass gaining drugs” when used appropriately. They gave AIDs patients and cancer kids anavar and anadrol for muscle sparing.

Again, steroids WORK but it’s your diet and training that determine HOW they work. Take steroids w/o effective training and you don’t put on muscle. Is that because you picked the wrong steroid? Lol. No.
 

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How much lean tissue do you think you can actually accrue over weeks... hell even a year? It's a question someone asks that doesn't know what they're doing. .5 lbs a week of pure muscle would be 26 lbs in a year. That ain't gonna happen even doing everything perfectly unless you're a genetic freak. Anadrol will put on more water. Weight is not the same as lean tissue.
You need more time and consistency not some special drug.
Take as much test as you can handle and then pick another steroid that you get along and run that.
Ask the biggest non genetic freaks what they did and it's never some drug that was missing. It'll be test, gh, and another anabolic while treating eating and training like it's their job.
You can take all the drugs you want but if you can't eat enough the drugs aren't being utilized.
Weight gain is an idiots way of doing things
If only someone had given him actual advice... or if only grown men would stop acting like women on their period and work on reading comprehension skills.
Muscle gain is slow. You know what the scale is mostly measuring? Water, shit and undigested food.
Like Justin Harris says it's like filling up your car with gas to figure out how much your car weighs.
You dummy's want the most water retention thinking you're gaining muscle. I've had clients who started at 175 at an est 20% bf and ended at a shredded 170. They gained muscle. They lost weight.
What they didn't do was think that a fucking scale was the best metric for muscle gain.
The scale is a good tool to use to start a diet with and if someone is pretty fat because it's hard to see changes.
Performance, body composition and measurements should all be the primary metrics used.
Perma bulker retards look to gain as much scale weight as fast as possible.

I said take as much test as you can handle could be 200 could be 1000 and use another compound you get along with and taper up as needed.
Goddamn do I need to explain when to increase food and when to increase drugs?
You guys want an impossible answer. You want personalized information without a picture or anything relevant.
It's because you're dummies who aren't ready for drugs
 

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Back to trying to be helpful

Ticktack: you just shooting for mass? Do you care about lean mass only or would a bit of fat do ok too? 16 weeks only or can you go longer? What was your NPP reaction?
 

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anavar is the biggest pussy steroid you’re not going to pack mass on w it

anadrol is great but it’s mostly fake weight better for pre workout strength so you can smash the weights

what reaction did you have to npp?

test and deca is the bread and butter


Perma bulker retards look to gain as much scale weight as fast as possible.

I feel attacked
 
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