Bloodwork Microdosing Test-Cyp [100mg E5D]

[FieldJunky]

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@“FieldJunky” I double checked and reference is 10-50, with a score of 24 nmol/L.

I agree, I was going to up my dose for a small blast, but for now i’ve decided against it as I feel I’m still making great progress on TRT dose. Nowhere near my current potential.

I have upped the dose of the Proviron to 50mg daily in an effort to get the E2 down. I am definitely more vascular. I’ve always been vascular but I notice my veins on my lower stomach popping. Muscles are hard and full, even with lack of workout commitment with gym being closed. I want to see how much of an effect the Proviron has on getting my E2 in check. (Target of 20-25).

Eventually I will run a blast, but just because I want to see my bloodwork. But mostly just TRT dose with the occasional addition of other compounds like you mentioned.

The individual who helped me get my bloodwork in order told me I should never ever need to run more than 200mg/wk for a blast when your body is functioning properly. He showed me his blood work with Total T @ 9000 and Free T @ 2900 running 300mg/wk. He said even at 300mg/wk, its too much, and he did it simply to prove a point to everyone on the boards. He claims he feels best around 2000/700 TT/FT.

Anyway, i’m enjoying the process. Excited to continue the journey.

Yeah you’re SHBG is definitely normal allowing for that long of intervals between injection times. I wouldn’t believe him as that can be very normal peak lab value on 300mg but can also mean overdosed UGL oils. Sounds like you’re all dialed in though best of luck!

 

[GearMeUpButterCup]

When I first started TRT at 80mg of test cyp my total T was just under 1300 ng/dL after 3.5 days of injection.

I believe everyone is different when it comes to dosing and what their T will look like. People who have never used exogenous T going straight to 500mg should rethink their plans IMO.

 

[Septicanon]

How is 100mg E5D a “microdose”? It’s more than TRT.

 

[OldFart]

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How is 100mg E5D a “microdose”? It’s more than TRT.

I was about to ask the same question

 

[DHT]

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@“FieldJunky” I double checked and reference is 10-50, with a score of 24 nmol/L.

I agree, I was going to up my dose for a small blast, but for now i’ve decided against it as I feel I’m still making great progress on TRT dose. Nowhere near my current potential.

I have upped the dose of the Proviron to 50mg daily in an effort to get the E2 down. I am definitely more vascular. I’ve always been vascular but I notice my veins on my lower stomach popping. Muscles are hard and full, even with lack of workout commitment with gym being closed. I want to see how much of an effect the Proviron has on getting my E2 in check. (Target of 20-25).

Eventually I will run a blast, but just because I want to see my bloodwork. But mostly just TRT dose with the occasional addition of other compounds like you mentioned.

The individual who helped me get my bloodwork in order told me I should never ever need to run more than 200mg/wk for a blast when your body is functioning properly. He showed me his blood work with Total T @ 9000 and Free T @ 2900 running 300mg/wk. He said even at 300mg/wk, its too much, and he did it simply to prove a point to everyone on the boards. He claims he feels best around 2000/700 TT/FT.

Anyway, i’m enjoying the process. Excited to continue the journey.

30x response rate…??

 

[Kluso]

I love Proviron but it doesn’t lower actual blood levels of estrogen does it? Curious to see your values after upping to 50mg per day. Just a heads up. Proviron is not as mild on the liver as many claim. I have had elevated liver enzymes on 50mg per day. I always thought it just blocked the effects of E2 and progesterone for that matter. I recently tried deca again and found out Proviron prevents me from getting gyno from deca. When I was younger I tried deca but lump started growing under my nipple. I tried aromasin and adex. Didn’t help. So I hopped on nolva. That did the trick but it killed my sex drive(like it always does) but also I didn’t make shit for gains on that blast. Now deca is my favorite mass builder with Proviron. I tried masteron with deca but didn’t quite cut it. Proviron has been my miracle drug. But it does mess with my liver. Last bloodtest I got I had been back on trt for 4 weeks and my liver enzymes were still elevated. I had been running 50mg Proviron for over 12 weeks. Not a good idea. Maybe it’s just cause I’m older. Not sure but it will fuck with your liver. So imo less is better. If u want lower estrogen I would opt for aromasin. It’s better on lipids than adex. And better for liver for sure.

 

[Kluso]

As far as low dose cycles. I think guys just need to listen to there body more. If you are taking so much gear that I feel like shit you probably won’t make gains for shit either. More stress on the body is gonna override any extra gains u could be getting from the extra gear. I think there’s a balance to finding what’s too high and what works best for each of us. And everyone is different. But if you have to add x,y and z so you can take A then maybe you should rethink what your doing. Guys need to stop listening to everyone else and find what compounds that work best for them. You can bulk or cut on any AAS. That’s another BS thing. There’s no such thing as a cutting or bulking steroid. There are wet compounds and dry compounds but u can bulk or cut on any of them. I think everyone should experiment and find what works best for them. Then just stick to those 2 or 3 compounds that work best for you. Then push the doses as high as you can without needing any ancillaries. Maybe one. But if you have to add a hundred ancillaries to run it that high your only fucking up your results. Lower the dose to where I don’t need all those ancillaries and see what happens. You will not only feel better but have better results too!

 

[ucmenow]

@“DHT” - I asked just to make sure, and I was wrong. It was 5250~ or something like that. Still, excellent results @ 300mg. No need for anymore than that, in my opinion.

@“Kluso” Thanks for your input, Kluso! I was actually under the impression Proviron was OK to run year round, given you keep an eye on your labs/liver. Obviously each person reacts differently, but definitely something to keep an eye on for myself. Thanks. I couldnt agree with you more.

I also asked for information regarding the Proviron question you had… Proviron redcuces the conversion, hence freeing up the FREE-T.

@“Septicanon” & @“OldFart” I guess “microdose” isnt really the proper term for this thread. My point was that you can still receive outstanding results with very low doses. I’ve put on 10 lbs of muscle in the last 98 days at these numbers. Can’t say it’s all gear related but it certainly helps. I look and feel great.

a video worth the watch.

 

[Kluso]

I think many can get away with 25mg ed for long periods of time. But going 50mg per day and higher. I actually went up to 100mg per day during that cycle. Was experimenting. But like I said even 4 weeks after dropping it my enzymes were still high. It could just be that I’m older now. But definitely something to keep an eye on for sure. I speculate that higher doses of 50mg and higher can be just as bad as other orals. Just thought I would share since it surprised me. Also, I know that Proviron is a dht derivative that increases free T. All dht derivatives do that to some extent. But the anti-E effects are very apparent. One smart guy I know says it has to do with the androgen to estrogen ratio but it doesn’t actually lower estrogen or conversion. So I am very interested in your bloodwork and comparing the before Proviron to after adding Proviron. Masteron is sopposed to work the same way. But my personal experience I did not have same results mg per mg as I did with Proviron. At least as far as symptoms. Did not get any bloodwork. Deca gives me gyno. I have a small lump under both nipples that swell and grow when using deca. Proviron was able to control it masteron was not. Which I found rather interesting. Deca dose t even raise estrogen but it does bind to the progesterone receptors in the mammary gland. So it may be acting like an agonist. Proviron also prevents gyno growth for me when using 50mg dbol on blast. I can’t even go over 25mg with an AI. I get moon face too. But Proviron I have zero sides. No crazy water weight or gyno growth. It’s honestly a Miracle drug for me. I just wish it did t mess with my liver but i did run high doses and for months.