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First cutting cycle

Tommyp

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Was thinking about hopping on a TRT dosage of test (120-150) for about 4-6 weeks, then throwing in a DHT derivative like winny, masteron, or anavar to lower SHBG. Also masteron or winny would be nice to control estrogen as well. Already have been cutting for 6 weeks Natty and yes I train hard yes I eat great. Thoughts on this for a first cutting cycle?
 

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Sounds terrible. Jumping on a trt dose of test for 4-5weeks? Whats the point of that. Wanting to control estrogen with mast or winny? They don’t lower e2, and at that dose of test it’s highly doubtful you’d have e2 issues. Dump this whole idea, continue to cut naturally and maybe think about steroids when you know more about them
 

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No such thing as a 'cutting cycle'. Just drop cals and run the same drugs you would bulk or maintain on.
 

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Was thinking about hopping on a TRT dosage of test (120-150) for about 4-6 weeks, then throwing in a DHT derivative like winny, masteron, or anavar to lower SHBG. Also masteron or winny would be nice to control estrogen as well. Already have been cutting for 6 weeks Natty and yes I train hard yes I eat great. Thoughts on this for a first cutting cycle?
Yeah there is zero point in doing your" trt run ", even with short esters for four weeks especially when it sounds like you're new to gear use. Masteron has some anti-estrogenic properties being a DHT derivative but its nots enough on its own(or certainly for this short of a cycle) to do what you want it to with e2. I've also never heard of winny having these properties. It's always smart to have an AI on hand for high e2 sides.
 

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Yeah there is zero point in doing your" trt run ", even with short esters for four weeks especially when it sounds like you're new to gear use. Masteron has some anti-estrogenic properties being a DHT derivative but its nots enough on its own(or certainly for this short of a cycle) to do what you want it to with e2. I've also never heard of winny having these properties. It's always smart to have an AI on hand for high e2 sides.
I meant starting off with just trt for first 4-6 weeks of cut then throwing in another compound with the same dosage of test to continue the cut
 

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I meant starting off with just trt for first 4-6 weeks of cut then throwing in another compound with the same dosage of test to continue the cut
At that point, you’re shutting yourself down and your exogenous test will be replacing all endogenous production, so your net test gain is either minimal, non-existent, or possibly at a loss.

If you’re using exogenous test for any lifting oriented goal, then use supraphysiological levels.
 

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Test with primo 1:1 ratio or figure out what works for you with regards to primo being your AI. A very basic feels good cycle for me is 250/300 test, 300 primo, 250/300 deca, with a low/med dosed oral depending on how toxic it is.
 
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