First cycle: high E2 and blood pressure

[E-feezy]

Hey guys,

I’m currently 5 weeks into my first cycle.

Test-E: 500mg / week (injected every 3 days, 250mg per injection)

I am 5'11 160lbs 13% BF

first started experiencing high E2 sides 3.5 weeks in to my cycle. High blood pressure, anxiety, and hurts when I push down on one nipple. The nipple stays hard and it’s slightly sore.

Got my E2 checked with my Doctor. Bloods came back showing my E2 at 180 pg/ml so I decided to take exemestane 12.5 mg I got from Colonial Labs before they shut down. I started with 12.5 e3d and seemed to make nipple soreness go away, but my high blood pressure was the same so I switched to 12.5 e2d. Still the same high blood pressure so I switched to 12.5 every day.

I’ve currently been at 12.5 every day for about a week now. My blood pressure is still high and my nipple soreness is coming back. I don’t understand… maybe Colonial Labs exemestane is bunk. Maybe one of you had experience with Colonials exemestane before and can help me figure out if that’s the case.

Been having to take beta blockers just to deal with high blood pressure every day.
Not sure if I should try to up the dose to 25mg, but I’m afraid of crashing my E2. I’m going to get a private blood panel done in two weeks when I hit week 7. I’m also waiting on a call back from my doctor to refer me to an endocrinologist because I’m worried I might end up with gyno, better safe than sorry. I just want some input and feedback from someone on here until then. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 21405]

Cut back on the gear. If you're having these side effects lower your dose. I wouldn't tinker too much with an AI. You take it and let it do its job. Don't go overboard.

Aromasin seems complicated. I use half a tablet of arimidex 1-2 times a week and that manages decent. Be safe

 

[Deleted member 21405]

Also your first cycle and you're running 250 every three days? Bro you should be doing less than 300 total your first cycle for the entire week split into two doses. Don't live so dangerously

 

[ChevoGuap]

Aromasin is by far the best and safest AI to use.
If your e2 is high it's most likely going to cause more water retention and a higher BP.

Take half a tab of aromasin as needed.

 

[ChevoGuap]

Also your first cycle and you're running 250 every three days? Bro you should be doing less than 300 total your first cycle for the entire week split into two doses. Don't live so dangerously

this is god awful advice. A natty test level is already around 125-200mg of test. You want him to shut down his balls and barely be higher than a natty level?

 

[BINGBONG]

this is god awful advice. A natty test level is already around 125-200mg of test. You want him to shut down his balls and barely be higher than a natty level?

@victoryvalhalla 's advice is spot on mate..everyone responds differently. While 200mg may put YOU at natty/TRT levels, im running 225mg of test and bloods came back at almost 2000ng/dl. That aint natty levels

@E-feezy Bro lower ur dose. Stop throwing more drugs in the mix, ur body is telling u to chill out. My opinion is find the lowest dose that doesn't cause sides but yields supra-physiological T levels. Everyone is completely different so 500mg is clearly too high if ur getting all these sides, lower the dose. Ur still going to make epic gains at 300mgs with less sides, no other drugs, and feel alot better.

 

[E-feezy]

Also your first cycle and you're running 250 every three days? Bro you should be doing less than 300 total your first cycle for the entire week split into two doses. Don't live so dangerously

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I was just following the Reddit first cycle guide. It says to do 500mg on your first cycle lol. You’re right though, maybe less is better the first time around.

 

[E-feezy]

@victoryvalhalla 's advice is spot on mate..everyone responds differently. While 200mg may put YOU at natty/TRT levels, im running 225mg of test and bloods came back at almost 2000ng/dl. That aint natty levels

@E-feezy Bro lower ur dose. Stop throwing more drugs in the mix, ur body is telling u to chill out. My opinion is find the lowest dose that doesn't cause sides but yields supra-physiological T levels. Everyone is completely different so 500mg is clearly too high if ur getting all these sides, lower the dose. Ur still going to make epic gains at 300mgs with less sides, no other drugs, and feel alot better.

Right on. Yep, I think you’re right. Once I get my bloodwork in 2 weeks I’ll come back and make a new post so you guys can help me analyze it it.

 

[Gbunk]

this is god awful advice. A natty test level is already around 125-200mg of test. You want him to shut down his balls and barely be higher than a natty level?

Agreed. Unless you’re a “super” responder, highly doubt levels at 200 will have a multiplier of 10.. why you don’t have it haven’t gotten any nolva/ raloxifene is beyond me. I did 500 my first cycle and wouldn’t have changed it. This garbage about taking 250-300 mg for a first cycle is garbage IMO.

 

[JamesDoe350]

Hey guys,

I’m currently 5 weeks into my first cycle.

Test-E: 500mg / week (injected every 3 days, 250mg per injection)

I am 5'11 160lbs 13% BF

first started experiencing high E2 sides 3.5 weeks in to my cycle. High blood pressure, anxiety, and hurts when I push down on one nipple. The nipple stays hard and it’s slightly sore.

Got my E2 checked with my Doctor. Bloods came back showing my E2 at 180 pg/ml so I decided to take exemestane 12.5 mg I got from Colonial Labs before they shut down. I started with 12.5 e3d and seemed to make nipple soreness go away, but my high blood pressure was the same so I switched to 12.5 e2d. Still the same high blood pressure so I switched to 12.5 every day.

I’ve currently been at 12.5 every day for about a week now. My blood pressure is still high and my nipple soreness is coming back. I don’t understand… maybe Colonial Labs exemestane is bunk. Maybe one of you had experience with Colonials exemestane before and can help me figure out if that’s the case.

Been having to take beta blockers just to deal with high blood pressure every day.
Not sure if I should try to up the dose to 25mg, but I’m afraid of crashing my E2. I’m going to get a private blood panel done in two weeks when I hit week 7. I’m also waiting on a call back from my doctor to refer me to an endocrinologist because I’m worried I might end up with gyno, better safe than sorry. I just want some input and feedback from someone on here until then. Thanks.

at 13% bf i doubt your diet is that bad if at all but i had high bloodpressure and blood sugar. changed my diet and all my shit went away,........i did drop the tren though. but diet plays a huge roll in it too. just before you add more and more drugs to your system make sure youre eating a healthy diet, good lean meats, egg whites, beans etc. keep us up to date

 

[E-feezy]

Yeah, I hear you. My diet is actually on point. I meal prep and eat manly chicken rice or quinoa with veggies and fruits, healthy fats (nuts, seeds, avocados, olive oil, all organic and non-Gmo. I also eat beef (grass fed), but primarily chicken.

No refined sugars. Only sugar I have is honey with my oatmeal during breakfast and it’s minimal. I also don’t eat a lot of salt. Given these factors, it’s probably safe to say it’s not my diet.

My E2 was 180 last time I checked. So I assume it’s directly correlated to that, but not 100% sure. I’m getting a full blood panel next week and I’ll update you guys when the time comes.

What I’m thinking is that the Aromasin I bought from colonial was probably underdosed which is why it’s not helping my high E2 symptoms. I’m going to up my dose for the next week until I get my blood taken since my nipples are hurting lol.

 

[JamesDoe350]

Yeah, I hear you. My diet is actually on point. I meal prep and eat manly chicken rice or quinoa with veggies and fruits, healthy fats (nuts, seeds, avocados, olive oil, all organic and non-Gmo. I also eat beef (grass fed), but primarily chicken.

No refined sugars. Only sugar I have is honey with my oatmeal during breakfast and it’s minimal. I also don’t eat a lot of salt. Given these factors, it’s probably safe to say it’s not my diet.

My E2 was 180 last time I checked. So I assume it’s directly correlated to that, but not 100% sure. I’m getting a full blood panel next week and I’ll update you guys when the time comes.

What I’m thinking is that the Aromasin I bought from colonial was probably underdosed which is why it’s not helping my high E2 symptoms. I’m going to up my dose for the next week until I get my blood taken since my nipples are hurting lol.

crazy high e2 levels at 750 test only. lol i ran tren 350 and test 500 and e2 was 129 with no sides because high pressure and i was emotional. lol rock and roll be safe. high e2 will cause high bp but crashing e2 is just as bad. lol stupid balancing act.

 

[Donuts]

A good rule of thumb that I have always followed while cycling is that less is always more. Start low and increase when necessary.

 

[Deleted member 21405]

A good rule of thumb that I have always followed while cycling is that less is always more. Start low and increase when necessary.

Bur reddit says 500mg minimal for first cycle bro

 

[Donuts]

Bur reddit says 500mg minimal for first cycle bro

If Reddit told you to jump off of a bridge, would you do it? I’m not entirely sure anyone on that website knows your personal health as much as you do, so why assume anyone on there is correct?

 

[Deleted member 21405]

If Reddit told you to jump off of a bridge, would you do it? I’m not entirely sure anyone on that website knows your personal health as much as you do, so why assume anyone on there is correct?

See my advice above. I totally agree with you

 

[Donuts]

See my advice above. I totally agree with you

My apologies. Reading these on my phone and they aren’t loading as fast. But yeah, start low, increase when necessary. It’s better for your health. I personally feel better on 200mg test than I do on 400+.

 

[Deleted member 21405]

My apologies. Reading these on my phone and they aren’t loading as fast. But yeah, start low, increase when necessary. It’s better for your health. I personally feel better on 200mg test than I do on 400+.

250 was always a sweet spot for me. Made really great steady gains and felt perfect.

 

[Donuts]

250 was always a sweet spot for me. Made really great steady gains and felt perfect.

I don’t think I’ll ever go over 200-250 anymore. 400-500 always made my anxiety worse.

 

[JamesDoe350]

I don’t think I’ll ever go over 200-250 anymore. 400-500 always made my anxiety worse.

how many cycles do you have under your belt?

when me and my buddy started, he said lets do go over 125, then 250, then 500, then lets do test only, then eq got add, then var, then we were going to pct then we cruised, then we added tren, lol its a slippery slope. lol

my advice is, SAFELY, push it as far as you can without ai and serious health problems. lol