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Hamstring pull issues, can BPC-157 help?

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I pulled my hamstring really bad doing some average rack pulls ~2yrs ago and ever since then I keep re-straining it. There’s been like 5 times at least where I’ll get to a point where it’s fine and I feel 100% I can play tennis and hike and then I give it *another* month to be safe—but then I’ll do a couple sets of good mornings with just the bar (or a similar lift which hits the hams) and it’s back to square one for 2-6 weeks.

I’m wondering if BPC-157 can help. Can anyone recommend a good source for that on here? I’ve used it before for a wrist injury a few years ago which it really helped but this is more of a muscle thing so idk but I’m willing to try anything. I’ve spent quite a bit of time on PT and stretching etc and it apparently has not entirely worked.

I really miss deadlifts and squats and my legs are tiny now (not like they ever were big but you know lol).
 
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I pulled my hamstring really bad doing some average rack pulls ~2yrs ago and ever since then I keep re-straining it. There’s been like 5 times at least where I’ll get to a point where it’s fine and I feel 100% I can play tennis and hike and then I give it *another* month to be safe—but then I’ll do a couple sets of good mornings with just the bar (or a similar lift which hits the hams) and it’s back to square one for 2-6 weeks.

I’m wondering if BPC-157 can help. Can anyone recommend a good source for that on here? I’ve used it before for a wrist injury a few years ago which it really helped but this is more of a muscle thing so idk but I’m willing to try anything. I’ve spent quite a bit of time on PT and stretching etc and it apparently has not entirely worked.

I really miss deadlifts and squats and my legs are tiny now (not like they ever were big but you know lol).
I've done the same thing. Missing something doesn't mean you should try to make a big come back. Leg press. Hamstring injuries are awful you don't want to do it again.

There's like 8 sources on this site just look through their pages. I believe @Synergy Forge has it, but I could be wrong.
 
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I pulled my hamstring really bad doing some average rack pulls ~2yrs ago and ever since then I keep re-straining it. There’s been like 5 times at least where I’ll get to a point where it’s fine and I feel 100% I can play tennis and hike and then I give it *another* month to be safe—but then I’ll do a couple sets of good mornings with just the bar (or a similar lift which hits the hams) and it’s back to square one for 2-6 weeks.

I’m wondering if BPC-157 can help. Can anyone recommend a good source for that on here? I’ve used it before for a wrist injury a few years ago which it really helped but this is more of a muscle thing so idk but I’m willing to try anything. I’ve spent quite a bit of time on PT and stretching etc and it apparently has not entirely worked.

I really miss deadlifts and squats and my legs are tiny now (not like they ever were big but you know lol).
 

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BPC-157 is one of a tiny number of compounds that was hyped up to me and still over-delivered. No one can tell you with certainty whether it will work, but IMO it's certainly worth trying.

In terms of sources, most people do their own legwork so that if they have a bad experience, it's their own fault. However, I will mention that Goodlyfe sells it at $15 for 4.5 mg, and has triplicate analytical testing (96%). That's cheap for the quantity, especially with a high degree of confidence in the item. The drawback is, his shop minimum is $250. JuiceApe has it, with no testing of BPC-157 specifically (that I know of), but his shop has no minimum.

It's definitely worth doing the homework to find a source you're comfortable with.
 

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What did your dosing protocols look like with BPC-157? How much? How long? How often?
Looking into this for a family member with a nagging injury that PT cannot seem to help.
 

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Amino Asylum has it and if you use the code “think” it’ll apply 20% off. Not sure how that stacks up against the sources here in terms of cost but I’ve used theirs and it works for me.
 

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What did your dosing protocols look like with BPC-157? How much? How long? How often?
Looking into this for a family member with a nagging injury that PT cannot seem to help.
The boilerplate advice is 0.2 mg once per day for 25 days, injected near the injured area. That's one reason the 5 mg vials are convenient, because that's a full 25-day course.

However, there's a decent amount of anecdotal advice out there that says the effectiveness does scale with dose past that point. I used 0.4 mg twice a day (for a total of 0.8 mg) for 25 days. That works out to 20 mg, or four vials. Rest, PT, and plenty of dietary protein.
Amino Asylum has it and if you use the code “think” it’ll apply 20% off. Not sure how that stacks up against the sources here in terms of cost but I’ve used theirs and it works for me.
Agree that's a great source, but they're sold out at the moment, which is a bummer.
 

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I think it's absolutely worth a shot. I'm using it through JuicedApe and it's helped me a lot. I think I tore something in my abdominal wall while deadlifting. Everyone said it was a hernia and wouldn't heal, I said bullshit I'll fix it. I've been injecting bpc into the area for two weeks now and it's helped a ton. It's cheap and will probably benefit you in some way. Side not I've also been injecting it into my dick and getting some cool new veins there too. Maybe don't do that though
 

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Thanks everyone for your input, I’ll take a look at the sources suggested. I’ve been on here a couple years and have done due diligence when it comes to ordering gear but never had to order a peptide before from here so just was looking for any first hand recommendations.

What did your dosing protocols look like with BPC-157? How much? How long? How often?
Looking into this for a family member with a nagging injury that PT cannot seem to help.

I believe I did 0.25mg 2x/day in various sites right around my wrist. I may have also done another 0.25mg/day subQ into my ab area. I ran that for about 3-4 weeks, I feel it helped a lot.
 

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BPC and TB aren't worth wasting time on. I tore my right hamstring on a deadlift set ~6 years ago right off the floor, never forget that 'pop' sound. Here's what I suggest, none of which requires a PT visit if you just google and youtube shit:

-Identify the imbalance(s) that caused it
-Attack that/those imbalance(s) with isolation movements including high intensity, high volume and isometric approaches
-Maintain adequate volume and load to prevent falling out of balance again (Simply: Don't stop hitting the areas that needed work once it heals fully)
-Learn to properly engage the glutes during loaded hip hinges (dead, squat, and all similar movements)
-Learn to properly engage the core during loaded hip hinges ^
-Assess form on the movement(s) that strain(ed) the muscle

Without knowing you at all I'd imagine you have overworked quads and underworked hamstrings (the common issue) with little or no glute work being done so it's likely you do not know how to engage them. I could be wrong, but this is the case in pretty much all guys that tear hammies; Notice you do not really hear much about women in the gym tearing a hammy? Notice how much ass work they do.

I'd suggest learning how to hinge the bar up rather than 'pull' it up; Perform Rack HINGES not Rack PULLS. To begin, put a resistance band across a power rack at the height of your hips, walk forward into the band so it's got tension trying to pull your ass backwards, once your hips have been pulled back a bit squeeze your cheeks and think about moving your pelvis forward directly against the tension of the band. Once this movement is comfortable, begin performing the pattern while also holding a barbell (or a pvc pipe or similar if the barbell is too heavy for your hamstring currently) and standing in the same stance as your rack pull/deadlifts. Ideally you want to keep the bar in contact with the body, let that band sink your hips back as you descend, then simply fight the band to perform the RP/DL motion. It sounds silly but this does work. Truly, a DL/RP is not an 'up and down' motion; It is a 'hips forward, hips back' movement. Once you get this down, as long as you keep your back straight and shoulders retracted you will essentially be able to squeeze your cheeks and engage your hips to perform the movement entirely, minus the first ~1-2 inches off the floor if you pull from the floor but if you're not doing PL/Strongman comps I'd recommend ignoring standard deadlifting anyway.

For recovering and maintaining your hamstrings I suggest avoiding the leg curl machines (except for one nifty usage I'll get to) and instead go for reverse sled drags if possible as these are going to build your posterior chain much better and in a much more functional/practical way. It's unlikely that you'll have access to this in the gym unless you go to a really cool fuckin gym though, so you might have to DIY it at home. Don't need much weight, you could literally put a rope through a 45lb plate and just drag the fucker down the sidewalk a few laps. Avoid doing full ROM Deads, Squats, Rack Pulls and similar movements but work in the partial rom that is comfortable for you. If you have boxes available to squat to, break em out. Even if it's only a 2 inch ROM, it's gonna be better to work some reps in that 2 inch ROM than ignore the movement. Obviously keep weight LIGHT and volume moderate, you are trying to stimulate tissue regrowth not build a new PR. Now for the leg curl machines, if you have a laying down version you can get a great isometric contraction with it. Lay on the pad, use no weight until you figure out if your leg can handle any, and instead of doing the 'curl' you should squeeze your glutes hard and keep your legs straight while raising them up toward the ceiling all as one unit. You're not gonna move very far, just enough to feel your quads no longer in contact with the pad at best, but you should feel a very intense contraction down the entire leg and in the cheeks. Isometric holds for time like this will greatly assist your recovery. Weight here is not as important as the contraction intensity and the time.

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The notion that BPC and TB either don’t work or are ineffective is an extremely silly stance to take.
 

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BPC and TB aren't worth wasting time on. I tore my right hamstring on a deadlift set ~6 years ago right off the floor, never forget that 'pop' sound. Here's what I suggest, none of which requires a PT visit if you just google and youtube shit:

-Identify the imbalance(s) that caused it
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This is an extremely helpful post, thank you! The tip about the isometric hold on the hamstring curl machine is awesome I’ve actually been thinking of some way to engage the glutes like in that manner. Please point me to your onlyfans and I will certainly buy the premium level.

And yes I think you’re right, it’s an imbalance—my hams and glutes are weak. I have tried to correct this with rehab exercises. Every time it’s healed back up I try to strengthen the glutes up to compensate, but the exercises I’ve tried were either painful/uncomfortable on the ham (light DL’s, light leg press, hip thrusts) or completely reinjured it even after 2-3 light sets on the first time trying them (good mornings, single leg RDL’s). I have done quite a bit of the hamstring curl machine and the back extension machine, these two seem to work the hams and glutes without pain or reinjury. I haven’t tried much isometric stuff—I will try it out.

The particularly frustrating thing is I feel no pain when the re-injury occurs. I purposely only did 2-3 sets with extremely light weight of the good mornings or single leg RDL’s each time and it felt completely fine in the moment and then both times I wake up the next day and I’m limping like a peg-leg pirate.

I just don’t understand how it goes right back to square one like that even tho it had been a couple months at least with no symptoms at all (and full on hiking, tennis, regular ham curl and back extension work). I’d appreciate some warning soreness or something instead of right back to fucked. This is what’s driving me to BPC. I definitely understand what you’re saying about attacking the root of the problem, which I do want to do. But I’m sure a little bit of drugs couldn’t hurt…
 

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BPC and TB aren't worth wasting time on. I tore my right hamstring on a deadlift set ~6 years ago right off the floor, never forget that 'pop' sound. Here's what I suggest, none of which requires a PT visit if you just google and youtube shit:

-Identify the imbalance(s) that caused it
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Actually to add on to my previous reply I’d love to get your opinion on stretching if you’re still around. Some say to do light stretching, others say to do absolutely no stretching. Any input on this, has stretching helped or hurt you at all in your recovery?
 

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Actually to add on to my previous reply I’d love to get your opinion on stretching if you’re still around. Some say to do light stretching, others say to do absolutely no stretching. Any input on this, has stretching helped or hurt you at all in your recovery?
I only stretched through the movements I performed and daily activities. By this I mean, if I did any stretching it was unintentional and only happened because of the things I was doing causing the muscle to stretch but I never sat down and did toe touches or V-Sits or 90/90s or anything. Actually right before I blew mine up I had stretched a bit that morning between the previous set and the one which would fuck me up so my opinion on stretching is that you probably should not do it if you're not specifically focusing on mobility. I paired stretching with triples at 92% on deads and I regret it wholeheartedly. The muscle WILL regain full ROM and function on it's own over time with you walking and sitting and doing lifts to strengthen it, stretching may help but I personally swore off it. Even now I won't stretch much, too worried it'll blow up again and it's been years.
 

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Ok I will try to avoid stretching seeing as the mild stretching hasn’t don’t me any favors the last couple times I’ve reinjured. Thanks again!

And to anyone else with BPC experience for muscle issues—where would you pin the BPC for a hamstring? Right into the muscle? Any specific areas to aim for or avoid? Or just do sub-Q above the hamstring?
 

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I pulled my hamstring really bad doing some average rack pulls ~2yrs ago and ever since then I keep re-straining it. There’s been like 5 times at least where I’ll get to a point where it’s fine and I feel 100% I can play tennis and hike and then I give it *another* month to be safe—but then I’ll do a couple sets of good mornings with just the bar (or a similar lift which hits the hams) and it’s back to square one for 2-6 weeks.

I’m wondering if BPC-157 can help. Can anyone recommend a good source for that on here? I’ve used it before for a wrist injury a few years ago which it really helped but this is more of a muscle thing so idk but I’m willing to try anything. I’ve spent quite a bit of time on PT and stretching etc and it apparently has not entirely worked.

I really miss deadlifts and squats and my legs are tiny now (not like they ever were big but you know lol).
BPC will help with any kind of injury u have
 
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