im back, 4 orals at once, low dose, insane pyramid cycle, please comment or ur gay

[dudebro73]

Whats up, I havent been here in a minute.

Ive been out of the gym and on a cruise for the past 2 years, and I started working out 2 weeks ago and currently growing into my muscle memory gains as we speak.

Most injectables Ive used give me awful sides, and im at the age and experience of not trying to put on huge gains, just an added bonus to my TRT to make super slow gains and to make workouts more enjoyable.
my problem is,
-Tren gives me nasty acne, (Ive never tried low dose like 50-100mg tren e but I had such a bad experience at higher doses Im terrifed to try)
-Deca makes me insane, (Ive done up to a gram, i fully believe its a pregnancy hormone which is not good for a man to have for his mental health)
-Test, Im not a fan of the aromitization and I dont think the higher doses give me good gains.


Now I know what most of you are thinking, add "Low dose anavar" "50-100mg deca", or "add like 400mg Primo"
-Anavar im gonna run, im a big believer in it.
-Deca, I have access to pharma that comes in 50mg amps, ive been considering it because of the magic strength of pharma gear, It sounds ideal because I do love Deca joints, fullness and happiness in the beginning, but honestly even at 50mg, having to run it for like 6 months makes me worried Id slowly slip into some mental sides that will take forever to get out of, if I ever realize it.
-Primo is too expensive, Id want to run like a gram of that shit and that would be like $160 a month, which I can afford.. but fuck it better be good..
Definately considering it... I guess the only way to find out is to try it myself, I dont trust everyone else to not be placebo.d by internet forums and youtube.


So this leads me to orals, Im a fan of orals due to being able to drop them quickly if I get any sides, and theyre just plain fun.

Im a big believer nowadays in pyramiding cycles, both to give your body time to upregulate receptors and the fact the body gets used to and develops a tolerence for anything you give it.

Heres my plan, i have raw anavar, tbol, winstrol and adrol.
Base is 150mg pharma testosterone enanthate per week, ejected Eod which brings me to 1300 ng/dl and 6.25mg pharma asin EoD which brings me to 22 ng/dl e2.

week 1 10mg anavar 10mg tbol
week 2 10mg anavar 20mg tbol 5mg adrol
week 3 15mg anavar 30mg tbol 10mg adrol
week 4 20mg anavar 40mg tbol 15mg adrol
week 5 20mg anavar 50mg tbol 20mg adrol
week 6 20mg anavar 20mg tbol 25mg adrol 5mg winstrol
week 7 20mg anavar 20mg tbol 30mg adrol 7.5mg winstrol
week 8 20mg anavar 20mg tbol 35mg adrol 10mg winstrol
week 9 20mg anavar 30mg tbol 40mg adrol 15mg winstrol

I've been using just as long and was a member during the reddit days of sst. It's something i've thought of doing in the past for preoworkout+test base as I've got older.

so 150 test base check but i'd keep it simpler and look for a dht and an anabolic and then double it 4 weeks with an split am/pm dosing of both, i'd doubt there's any practical benefit micromanaging dose increases in any event. 5days on 2 off could be helpful.
winstrol 25+Anadrol 25
anavar 20 to 30 + Tbol 20 to 30 (OR Dbol 25mg if you don't aromatize heavily on it).

That's about 50mg daily and 100 after week 4.

AI's on hand before and of course bloodwork checked to see how you're holding up halfway through. Then *starting* from when your lipids return and enzymes return to normal take an additional 9 weeks off.

Really if your over 40 I wouldn't play with orals at all, 17 alpha-alkylates are the worst for cholesterol and winstrol especially is an artery murdering fuck. Blasting & cruising with Trestolone + Primo would be my pick or Trest + Anavar (cycled) or Proviron (continual). Trest+EQ is what I'm going to try for B&C next (no DHT's as my prostate is enlarged) with cialis. I'll add 25mg Proviron if sex drive tanks though and see how the prostate handles that.

Good luck.

 

[Bando]

I’m the opposite. Oils are the only game in town for me. Make me feel like a thoroughbred. And I keep the gains from most of them for years.

Orals break out my skin. Give me a toxic, lethargic feeling and just make me generally unhealthy feeling. The pumps from most orals are debilitating and ruin my workouts. I equate oral steroids to temporary bloat pills. Sure you can get huge and swollen for a few weeks. But all that swollen puff will be gone a month after quitting.

I do like anavar and halo but that’s it.

 

[DHT]

I've been using just as long and was a member during the reddit days of sst. It's something i've thought of doing in the past for preoworkout+test base as I've got older.

so 150 test base check but i'd keep it simpler and look for a dht and an anabolic and then double it 4 weeks with an split am/pm dosing of both, i'd doubt there's any practical benefit micromanaging dose increases in any event. 5days on 2 off could be helpful.
winstrol 25+Anadrol 25
anavar 20 to 30 + Tbol 20 to 30 (OR Dbol 25mg if you don't aromatize heavily on it).

That's about 50mg daily and 100 after week 4.

AI's on hand before and of course bloodwork checked to see how you're holding up halfway through. Then *starting* from when your lipids return and enzymes return to normal take an additional 9 weeks off.

Really if your over 40 I wouldn't play with orals at all, 17 alpha-alkylates are the worst for cholesterol and winstrol especially is an artery murdering fuck. Blasting & cruising with Trestolone + Primo would be my pick or Trest + Anavar (cycled) or Proviron (continual). Trest+EQ is what I'm going to try for B&C next (no DHT's as my prostate is enlarged) with cialis. I'll add 25mg Proviron if sex drive tanks though and see how the prostate handles that.

Good luck.

im 30, i take ezetimibe 10mg to reduce cholesterol absorption, ive heard good things about it being super affordable, having no sides and improving cholesterol.
I stopped taking winstrol because on only 10mg, it immediately made me break out all over my face like tren does.
My problem is im sensitive to DHT AND i aromotise alot. I had my nipple glands removed (apparently not all of it) and my estrogen being at just 41 caused slight swelling and gyno formation.
Right now the only gear Ive found I can tolerate is anadrol, superdrol and anavar.
I might experiment with higher aromitising cycles with primo in the future, right now I can get my estrogen checked as often as I want for almost nothing.
175mg test and 200mg primo e had me at perfect 23ngdl e2. so maybe Ill just keep that ratio and increase the doses incrementally and end up at like 700mg test and 800mg primo haha

 

[dudebro73]

im 30, i take ezetimibe 10mg to reduce cholesterol absorption, ive heard good things about it being super affordable, having no sides and improving cholesterol.
I stopped taking winstrol because on only 10mg, it immediately made me break out all over my face like tren does.
My problem is im sensitive to DHT AND i aromotise alot. I had my nipple glands removed (apparently not all of it) and my estrogen being at just 41 caused slight swelling and gyno formation.
Right now the only gear Ive found I can tolerate is anadrol, superdrol and anavar.
I might experiment with higher aromitising cycles with primo in the future, right now I can get my estrogen checked as often as I want for almost nothing.
175mg test and 200mg primo e had me at perfect 23ngdl e2. so maybe Ill just keep that ratio and increase the doses incrementally and end up at like 700mg test and 800mg primo haha

Not a bad plan. EQ may be helpful if you aromatise, EQ controls my estrogen well between 1.5 and 2:1 ratios of Test C : EQ ( or bold cyp).

Another idea is a Test trt base for cruising and add 600mg DHB + 40-60mg Anavar (split am/pm) for blasting. GL.