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I will say this vendors TA is great. 3 days

Also the packaging is very secure, which is important in my option.

I'm going to go have a better day, I was rude to a few people today and I need to reflect on that.

Thanks for the quick TA and your professionalism kits4less (not being sarcastic). I look forward to getting a serum test and then I'll have no concerns about future orders with you.
 

kits4less

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I think I came on a little strong actually. The batch numbers don't matter in the grand scheme of things, its like 1iu difference. I was concerned about the blue tops as hcg generally has blue tops. But I am aware of a supplier who doesn't use colored tops for his peptides. If you could delete that entire picture I'd appreciate it.

Also sorry for being a dick right off the bat. I should have been more open to a cordial conversation and asking questions before immediately going on the defensive. So my apologies for that. I do appreciate your offer but I'm going to decline it. I pay for everything I buy, I don't want something for free.

I'll just get a serum test and that will alleviate my concerns.

No sweat my man. As a consumer you dont deal with the factories that make the stuff, so there's no reason for you to know this, but whether or not top colors mean anything usually depends entirely on the factory OR what you request from the factory. For the most part, they will use whatever color tops they feel like or whatever is available. Sometimes they change the color for a reason as simple as running out of a certain color. Most of our batches have had blue tops actually Ill consider getting the product photos re-rendered. Keep us posted with the serum results! Also I took your email entirely out of the photo.

As far as my offer goes, if you change your mind it still stands :)
 
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I'm going to get the serum test this weekend. I inject a full vial IM before the test correct? I'll keep everyone posted with the results. I'm fairly confident it'll come back high and I'll owe this vendor a second apology lol.

It'll also benefit the community here and establish a reputation with kits4less
 

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kits4less

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I'm going to get the serum test this weekend. I inject a full vial IM before the test correct? I'll keep everyone posted with the results. I'm fairly confident it'll come back high and I'll owe this vendor a second apology lol.

It'll also benefit the community here and establish a reputation with kits4less
@Ruger pulled serum bloodwork using our kits a few weeks back, maybe he can chime in on his exact testing protocol
 

bjjgear

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No sweat my man. As a consumer you dont deal with the factories that make the stuff, so there's no reason for you to know this, but whether or not top colors mean anything usually depends entirely on the factory OR what you request from the factory. For the most part, they will use whatever color tops they feel like or whatever is available. Sometimes they change the color for a reason as simple as running out of a certain color. Most of our batches have had blue tops actually Ill consider getting the product photos re-rendered. Keep us posted with the serum results! Also I took your email entirely out of the photo.

As far as my offer goes, if you change your mind it still stands :)
As for product photos, not sure what you're using, but there are a lot of interesting cheap AI options these days. Your product line seems an ideal use case. Similar to https://pebblely.com/
 

Ruger

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@Ruger pulled serum bloodwork using our kits a few weeks back, maybe he can chime in on his exact testing protocol

Injected at around 5:30am obviously fasting.....Then went back to bed for a bit, and had blood drawn at 8:30am......Have serum tested multiple times so I'm confident that I peak right around the 3 hour mark.....No eating and no strenuous activity before the test
 
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If this helps anyone, I experimented with 5 vials and bac water today. Trying to see the minimum amount of bac water I could use to reconstitute (1) standard batch vial (118iu kit batch E). I was able to use .3ml to reconstitute the entire vial. It was clear and well dissolved after just a couple moments of swirling. I was pretty impressed by this.

Imo it makes pinning an entire vial per day very easy and convenient. I plan to get the deluxe hgh next order and try the same thing.


Also zero pip. Can't even feel I injected something. Blood serum test on Saturday, I'll keep everyone updated 👍
 

bjjgear

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I would be interested in some transparency around how the site, particularly the data, is operated and managed. I've never been open to ordering this product from a website because of data retention and security concerns. I realize email isn't particularly the greatest medium either.
 
I would be interested in some transparency around how the site, particularly the data, is operated and managed. I've never been open to ordering this product from a website because of data retention and security concerns. I realize email isn't particularly the greatest medium either.
This question was addressed a couple pages back. Search function -> this thread, for future reference.
 

Ruger

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If this helps anyone, I experimented with 5 vials and bac water today. Trying to see the minimum amount of bac water I could use to reconstitute (1) standard batch vial (118iu kit batch E). I was able to use .3ml to reconstitute the entire vial. It was clear and well dissolved after just a couple moments of swirling. I was pretty impressed by this.

Imo it makes pinning an entire vial per day very easy and convenient. I plan to get the deluxe hgh next order and try the same thing.


Also zero pip. Can't even feel I injected something. Blood serum test on Saturday, I'll keep everyone updated

Be sure you are GH free for 48 hours before you inject for your test to ensure that your serum levels have returned to baseline, and use at least 1/2 cc of bac water injected IM for the test.
 
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Be sure you are GH free for 48 hours before you inject for your test to ensure that your serum levels have returned to baseline, and use at least 1/2 cc of bac water injected IM for the test.
Why do I need to be hgh free for 48hrs?


With all due respect I don't think .2ml additional of bac water is going to affect serum levels. I do appreciate your response about the test specifics though. I'll post it in the blood work section when I receive the results!
 

Ruger

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Why do I need to be hgh free for 48hrs?


With all due respect I don't think .2ml additional of bac water is going to affect serum levels. I do appreciate your response about the test specifics though. I'll post it in the blood work section when I receive the results!

You need to have your serum levels at baseline for the test otherwise you aren't getting an accurate reading.

Example - Lets say Your natural GH serum baseline is .03 and you inject GH your serum levels will then rise. They will then stay at an elevated number for at least 24 hours. For the sake of argument let's say after u injected your serum levels rose to 20. If you don't wait for that number to return back to .03 before injecting for your test then your test isn't accurate. Cuz if you are still slightly elevated, and then you inject the vial for the test you aren't getting an accurate number. That's why you need to have not injected for at least 24 hours which is why I said wait 48 hours. At the 48 hour mark you are guaranteed to be back at baseline when you inject for your test.

As far as the amount of bac water is concerned it doesn't matter how much, or how little, you go with. 1/2cc is simply easier to work with but that's entirely up to you. The same goes with the size of the needle, and the location of the injection. You can use whatever muscle group u want - Chest, Tris, Bis, Shoulders, Glutes - whatever. Once again it's all personal preference. Personally I use a 27g 1/2" needle and I normally use delts, but like I said it's all personal preference.
 
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You need to have your serum levels at baseline for the test otherwise you aren't getting an accurate reading.

Example - Lets say Your natural GH serum baseline is .03 and you inject GH your serum levels will then rise. They will then stay at an elevated number for at least 24 hours. For the sake of argument let's say after u injected your serum levels rose to 20. If you don't wait for that number to return back to .03 before injecting for your test then your test isn't accurate. Cuz if you are still slightly elevated, and then you inject the vial for the test you aren't getting an accurate number. That's why you need to have not injected for at least 24 hours which is why I said wait 48 hours. At the 48 hour mark you are guaranteed to be back at baseline when you inject for your test.

As far as the amount of bac water is concerned it doesn't matter how much, or how little, you go with. 1/2cc is simply easier to work with but that's entirely up to you. The same goes with the size of the needle, and the location of the injection. You can use whatever muscle group u want - Chest, Tris, Bis, Shoulders, Glutes - whatever. Once again it's all personal preference. Personally I use a 27g 1/2" needle and I normally use delts, but like I said it's all personal preference.
I have had a prescription for GH before. I got serum tested a few times and the doctor never said stop taking it before the test, he actually said the opposite...make sure your timing is within 3hrs and you are on a consistent dosage. As far as my natty levels, I can't remember what they were. But all my GH tests when I had a prescription (I still technically do I just don't renew it anymore) were similar and slightly over clinical range, Which is only what I was prescribed.

I'm not saying you're wrong, perhaps my doctor didn't know wtf he was doing. Do you have any articles on that? I can't find any on Google, I'm going to keep searching through.
 
You need to have your serum levels at baseline for the test otherwise you aren't getting an accurate reading.

Example - Lets say Your natural GH serum baseline is .03 and you inject GH your serum levels will then rise. They will then stay at an elevated number for at least 24 hours. For the sake of argument let's say after u injected your serum levels rose to 20. If you don't wait for that number to return back to .03 before injecting for your test then your test isn't accurate. Cuz if you are still slightly elevated, and then you inject the vial for the test you aren't getting an accurate number. That's why you need to have not injected for at least 24 hours which is why I said wait 48 hours. At the 48 hour mark you are guaranteed to be back at baseline when you inject for your test.

As far as the amount of bac water is concerned it doesn't matter how much, or how little, you go with. 1/2cc is simply easier to work with but that's entirely up to you. The same goes with the size of the needle, and the location of the injection. You can use whatever muscle group u want - Chest, Tris, Bis, Shoulders, Glutes - whatever. Once again it's all personal preference. Personally I use a 27g 1/2" needle and I normally use delts, but like I said it's all personal preference.
This is the stupidest concept I've ever seen tried to be explained. You went full retard here bro
 

kits4less

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I would be interested in some transparency around how the site, particularly the data, is operated and managed. I've never been open to ordering this product from a website because of data retention and security concerns. I realize email isn't particularly the greatest medium either.
As mentioned, this was answered before. But to reiterate, the website is hosted off shore in the Netherlands, which is one of the best countries for data privacy. If you have major concerns your best bet is to just use Protonmail and order via email, as End-To-End Encryption is the gold standard as far as these concerns go.
 

Ruger

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I have had a prescription for GH before. I got serum tested a few times and the doctor never said stop taking it before the test, he actually said the opposite...make sure your timing is within 3hrs and you are on a consistent dosage. As far as my natty levels, I can't remember what they were. But all my GH tests when I had a prescription (I still technically do I just don't renew it anymore) were similar and slightly over clinical range, Which is only what I was prescribed.

I'm not saying you're wrong, perhaps my doctor didn't know wtf he was doing. Do you have any articles on that? I can't find any on Google, I'm going to keep searching through.

Of course your doctor told you to keep taking it, because he was looking to see where your number was which is why he wanted you to continue taking it, because if you stopped taking it what would have happened? Your number would have fallen!! That's why he said be sure to keep taking it at the same time and don't miss any shots. He probably told you to keep taking the SAME AMOUNT as well, and don't take more than what you were prescribed, because what would have happened if you took more? Your number would have risen!! Your doctor was looking to see where your average number was during the course of your day while taking your prescribed amount.
 
I have had a prescription for GH before. I got serum tested a few times and the doctor never said stop taking it before the test, he actually said the opposite...make sure your timing is within 3hrs and you are on a consistent dosage. As far as my natty levels, I can't remember what they were. But all my GH tests when I had a prescription (I still technically do I just don't renew it anymore) were similar and slightly over clinical range, Which is only what I was prescribed.

I'm not saying you're wrong, perhaps my doctor didn't know wtf he was doing. Do you have any articles on that? I can't find any on Google, I'm going to keep searching through.
He's completely incorrect brother.

I dont even know how his brain determined you need to let your levels drop before you take the test shot to be "accurate" .. It really makes zero sense. If anything you want to just make sure you pin a few hours before
 
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