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Insulin is not a mandatory at all/ did someone tell you, you must run it ? And it’s far more dangerous then hgh… have u used slin before ? Assuming you said you don’t know anything about it I’d guess no. Not something u just throw in. Be safe and research a lot more.
No no, that was honestly just my assumption (I know I know) that once at a certain IU insulin would be pretty much mandatory. No worries I have no desire to fuck with it whatsoever, and no never used it. Thanks for the reply much respect
 

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No no, that was honestly just my assumption (I know I know) that once at a certain IU insulin would be pretty much mandatory. No worries I have no desire to fuck with it whatsoever, and no never used it. Thanks for the reply much respect
It really depends on your blood sugar. For me, my intention is to run HGH indefinitely. At about 6ius, I notice my fasting glucose tends to average about 110 which is quite a bit higher than the <90 we like to see. Therefore, in order to prevent organ damage from long term high blood sugar, I start implementing insulin then in order to relieve some stress off the pancreas as well as gain a synergistic effect with the AAS/HGH.
 
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It really depends on your blood sugar. For me, my intention is to run HGH indefinitely. At about 6ius, I notice my fasting glucose tends to average about 110 which is quite a bit higher than the <90 we like to see. Therefore, in order to prevent organ damage from long term high blood sugar, I start implementing insulin then in order to relieve some stress off the pancreas as well as gain a synergistic effect with the AAS/HGH.
Please know that you should take time off insulin, or your body will stop producing it leading to diabetes. This is pretty common with bodybuilders unfortunately, most end up diabetic and with sleep apnea.
 

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Please know that you should take time off insulin, or your body will stop producing it leading to diabetes. This is pretty common with bodybuilders unfortunately, most end up diabetic and with sleep apnea.
This is a very common misconception, and isn’t true. Unlike sex hormones, there is no negative feedback loop with insulin; and the use of insulin can actually relieve the pressure on your pancreas while on HGH maintaining long term beta cell health. What could lead to issues is a lack of insulin sensitivity as a result of overuse (not 5-10iu 2x per day as I use, which is very low), however; there are protocols and medications like metformin which recover that sensitivity.
 
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This is a very common misconception, and isn’t true. Unlike sex hormones, there is no negative feedback loop with insulin; and the use of insulin can actually relieve the pressure on your pancreas while on HGH maintaining long term beta cell health. What could lead to issues is a lack of insulin sensitivity as a result of overuse (not 5-10iu 2x per day as I use, which is very low), however; there are protocols and medications like metformin which recover that sensitivity.
I don't think 20iu a day is very low for bodybuilding use lol. And insulin resistance, from insulin is very real. It's very well documented and happens regularly. Taking metformin isn't a cure to insulin resistance either. It's not commonly use with diabetics because it rarely is strong enough to reduce the need for insulin.

Here are some articles that you may enjoy reading on the subject.


 

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I don't think 20iu a day is very low for bodybuilding use lol. And insulin resistance, from insulin is very real. It's very well documented and happens regularly. Taking metformin isn't a cure to insulin resistance either. It's not commonly use with diabetics because it rarely is strong enough to reduce the need for insulin.

Here are some articles that you may enjoy reading on the subject.


I respect your opinion, and appreciate the article. I agree with you regarding insulin resistance although this can be correct. Where we disagree, is regarding becoming diabetic. Either way, good chat. In an effort to respect kits4less and keep this a source thread and not an insulin debate, I’ll bow out. Take care!
 
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I respect your opinion, and appreciate the article. I agree with you regarding insulin resistance although this can be correct. Where we disagree, is regarding becoming diabetic. Either way, good chat. In an effort to respect kits4less and keep this a source thread and not an insulin debate, I’ll bow out. Take care!
No worries brother, I was just engaging you in conversation. I wasn't arguing or anything. I respect your opinion as well. I really think how much insulin resistance happens, is individual. There are so many factors including diet and genetics. Agreed, we should make a thread to discuss insulin instead of spamming this sources thread. Diabetes is something that somewhat genetic but diet and lifestyle will determine if you actually get it. Some guys can run 60iu a day ans develop no insulin resistance at all.
 

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Ill chime in here and say that one of the best ways to prevent insulin resistance is to have large amounts of lean mass, low levels of bodyfat, and good aerobic/cardiovascular capacity. Something we SHOULD all be striving for in the first place IMO. Take care of that and the rest takes care of itself (for the overwhelming majority of people, at least).
 

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All,

I will confirm this source went through our normal vetting process.

Please remember that SST is not Meso and while a degree of scrutiny is expected and appreciated by member of the community, this is not Meso’s trial by fire. The vetting processes are different. Please remain respectful

i fucking hate whenever a new source pops up. people just spam the threads calling scam. it makes it so hard to tell what the fuck is going on
 

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Labels for Sema and Tirz will be back tomorrow!
 

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i fucking hate whenever a new source pops up. people just spam the threads calling scam. it makes it so hard to tell what the fuck is going on

Exactly!! Make the best decision you can with the information you have while trying to wade through the BS, and then whenever possible do your own testing. Like a basic serum test for GH. Does it raise your serum levels? Are you happy with the number? If you are then fire away regardless of what others are saying. I'm more than satisfied with both the Economy kits I bought, and the Standard kits I picked up. They both tested mid 20s on a serum test which for me equals quality, and I hope these guys stay around for awhile!!
 

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going to have a nye sale?! i heard its the best time of a year for a new custoemr discount
 

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going to have a nye sale?! i heard its the best time of a year for a new custoemr discount
Perhaps! That said, there's still a couple of holiday coupons that haven't been claimed yet

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5 day T/A including Christmas for the Deluxe Kit I ordered. Bumping my daily dose to 5IU and I’ll be starting with this kit for the month. Just personal preference but the kit is labeled at the high end of what they tested at, but I’d prefer to see the low end of testing labeled on the box (I always use low end test results for my dosing)
 

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damn. i missed the cheaper one. was wanting to put in a test order. how about a nye new member free shipping sale. also you have eta on the 240iu kit?
Im thinking we will probably just generate more of the same coupons for New Years. We'll see! 240 IU kits will be out whenever we get test results back. Jano's lab holiday probably has samples backed up so it may take a tad longer than we're hoping for. Time will tell. Expect them in January for sure though!
5 day T/A including Christmas for the Deluxe Kit I ordered. Bumping my daily dose to 5IU and I’ll be starting with this kit for the month. Just personal preference but the kit is labeled at the high end of what they tested at, but I’d prefer to see the low end of testing labeled on the box (I always use low end test results for my dosing)
Fair enough! At first we had both numbers on the labels but we felt it looked a bit too 'busy'. That said I'm guessing most people are just referencing the Jano test results before ordering anyways. Putting the IU on the label is more of a redundancy.
 

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Zero sides with Batch C at 6 IU for the past month. IGF-1 tested at ~480. Super happy with the quality!
 

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Super fast shipping. Ordered the Deluxe A on the evening of the 27th and got it in today the 30th. Very pleased and excited to try it out!
 
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