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kits4less

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Haven't used HGH yet. If I were only using 1-3iu per day, would it even be worth it?
Anything 2 IU+ is always worth it imo. If you're over 30~ years old or so, even 1 IU is worth it just for quality of life benefits.
Any estimate for a date the tirzepatide will be in stock and price?
Probably by the end of next week. Not sure on pricing yet. It will be 4mg tirzepatide.
 

kits4less

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First time shopping with K4L last week and I have nothing but good shit to say.. Pack was both ordered and delivered in 3 days, I had my tracking number I think an hour after paying, dudes really on his shit. First dose was yesterday did 2iu and today even though a small amount I still split my ius morning fasted the about 7 hours later making sure I hadn't ate at least an hour before an A hour after. Top shelf, delivery, customer service, knowledge of product and from what that man's lab work shows us top shelf GH. Much Respect K4L and I appreciate the blessing my bro🤝💪
Thanks for being a customer! Glad I could be helpful.
 
@Dm151 & @kits4less thank you. Was on the treadmill when I posted so didn't provide adequate detail but both of you covered what I was curious about.

I was considering adding an Ipamorelin/CJC blend to my upcoming primo/test cycle, but after weighing the pros and cons, I'm leaning more towards a low-dose of HGH instead, for the reasons you two laid out.

Appreciate your comments.
 

snigglefutz

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You'd be hard pressed to kill yourself using insulin. If you can do math, you can use insulin. It's better to use it, and not be a diabetic, than be a "pussy" about it.

Basal insulin, Lantus, is incredibly forgiving.

You only need enough to supplement your natural insulin production, insulin usage does not shut down natural production. Something like 10-20iu of Lantus a day is enough to prevent high blood sugar and has a very low risk profile.

This is all provided that you are eating like a bodybuilder and measuring your food/carb intake and eating at regular intervals.
Paul, are you moonlighting in the SST chat again? Haha. That sounds like Paul Barnett almost to the word.
 

snigglefutz

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I'll take that as a compliment, the AB channel on YouTube has some great content.
def meant to be compliment! His content is well thought out and presented very clearly. I started lantus and gh after watching his stuff. I started reasonable Test and Primo dose, threw in that lantus and gh... recently added humalog @5 units pwo, 5 units post. Really starting to see some growth.

I appreciate Big Paul. I'm older so proper risk management is appealing. Gonna try these guys GH though. im on 4iu of chinese generics right now, would like to get to 6-8iu. Shipping and customs has been a pain, ive gotten seized and reshipped twice in the past 6 months. A domestic tested source would be clutch.
 

dick_starbuck

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def meant to be compliment! His content is well thought out and presented very clearly. I started lantus and gh after watching his stuff. I started reasonable Test and Primo dose, threw in that lantus and gh... recently added humalog @5 units pwo, 5 units post. Really starting to see some growth.

I appreciate Big Paul. I'm older so proper risk management is appealing. Gonna try these guys GH though. im on 4iu of chinese generics right now, would like to get to 6-8iu. Shipping and customs has been a pain, ive gotten seized and reshipped twice in the past 6 months. A domestic tested source would be clutch.
I know the guys on the AB channel are always talking smack on Victor Black, but I do highly recommend his content. I paid for his master class and it's well worth the money. If you want to learn about safer use, it's all in there and then some.

As far as this source goes, I'm going to give them a go soon also. I've been using opti orange tops and was getting serious edema from 10iu a day. The dimer content on the orange tops is very high, that might have something to do with it. The dimer count on these generics is a bit lower so I'm hoping for less water. I stopped the orange tops and dropped 10lbs of water weight in a week. Definitely more than I've ever held on generic HGH before.
 

TigolBitties

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You can absolutely.

Hgh and insulin = good
Just hgh = good
Insulin alone= bad. You'll get fat and it's a waste of insulin


I run 5iu hgh year round
Insulin without hgh=Bad you'll get fast waste of time. You must be one of those forum fellas that read something and repeat it back to others. Because that's definitely not true at all if you've ever used insulin without growth and had your diet spot on.
 

dick_starbuck

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Insulin without hgh=Bad you'll get fast waste of time. You must be one of those forum fellas that read something and repeat it back to others. Because that's definitely not true at all if you've ever used insulin without growth and had your diet spot on.
The idea that you HAVE to use HGH with insulin is wild. As if every type one diabetic was getting fat because they don't use insulin.

If your diet is on point, insulin will enhance nutrient absorption. No HGH needed.
 

Ruger

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The idea that you HAVE to use HGH with insulin is wild. As if every type one diabetic was getting fat because they don't use insulin.

If your diet is on point, insulin will enhance nutrient absorption. No HGH needed.
All good points but there are a lot of guys who wade into insulin usage unprepared (knowledge wise) which can lead to trouble.

As far as this source goes, I'm going to give them a go soon also. I've been using opti orange tops and was getting serious edema from 10iu a day. The dimer content on the orange tops is very high, that might have something to do with it. The dimer count on these generics is a bit lower so I'm hoping for less water. I stopped the orange tops and dropped 10lbs of water weight in a week. Definitely more than I've ever held on generic HGH before.

I've found water retention to be an issue when venturing above 8ius with some generics but not every source, and I tend to agree with you that it's probably related to the dimer content.
 

dick_starbuck

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All good points but there are a lot of guys who wade into insulin usage unprepared (knowledge wise) which can lead to trouble.



I've found water retention to be an issue when venturing above 8ius with some generics but not every source, and I tend to agree with you that it's probably related to the dimer content.
As far as dosage goes, I went from 12iu opti black top to 10iu opti orange top. The water retention was almost immediate. The only difference between the two was the dimer content as far as I know.
 

Ruger

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As far as dosage goes, I went from 12iu opti black top to 10iu opti orange top. The water retention was almost immediate. The only difference between the two was the dimer content as far as I know.
I have a few kits of Opti's gray tops but I'm running through this kit from Kits4less right now. Doing 12iu ed (1 vial) and so far haven't had any water issues. If I get through this kit and I don't see any water issues I'll grab more of these....We'll see but so far so good
 

dick_starbuck

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As far as dosage goes, I went from 12iu opti black top to 10iu opti orange top. The water retention was almost immediate. The only difference between the two was the dimer content as far as I know.

I have a few kits of Opti's gray tops but I'm running through this kit from Kits4less right now. Doing 12iu ed (1 vial) and so far haven't had any water issues. If I get through this kit and I don't see any water issues I'll grab more of these....We'll see but so far so good
If it works for you, let us know! I'll pick some up for sure.
 
Made my second order Monday got here today 4 days in total. Same for my first order been running 6iu 3 in the morning 3 at night. Hands aren’t numb and not holding too much water. Can’t beat it $95 a kit
 

kits4less

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Here are the lab results for our Batch E, with 2 vials tested for variance


Very happy with these results. 115-118IU and low dimer. When the website is live we will have multiple batches up for sale so you can choose your pick. Batch D will be discounted a bit because of the higher variance between samples.

The loyalty points system will give 2-2.5% cashback on all orders to start (we may chip this down slightly over time)

The website will automatically apply the multi kit discounts aswell.

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kits4less

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We've updated our thread on SST now making Batch D available at a discounted rate for those who are interested. Some large bulk orders cleared out a lot of this batch so there isn't a lot of it left. Batch E will be made available once Batch C sells out, which will probably be soon.

Furthermore, we've added a multi-kit bulk pricing structure to our economy kits aswell.
 
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