Liver and organ support?

[Misterbrooks]

What is everyone's go to for on cycle liver and kidney support, blood pressure and all that. I've been off cycle for about 5 years, tore my rotator cuff and just been cruising, lifting low to moderate under my dr directions. Well I have the full go to get back into lifting again and am looking at possibly competing again next year.
I used to use a product I got called cycle support, it worked great but I can't find it anymore. I would love some suggestions or sources. Long post for a simple question, but I wanted to give some context. This will be my 12th cycle so I have a good feel for what i'm doing and feeling, just would love some input o what everyone else uses.

 

[JDLift]

Nothing. As long as you do not have any kind of medical history of issues with your internal organs and don't partake in retarded amounts of alcohol or have serious drug addiction issues (pills, meth, etc) and eat a somewhat decent diet (don't have to be perfect but not every meal can be Domino's and Mcdonalds) you will be perfectly fine on any reasonable amount of gear. I have never heard of anyone having issues from doses that make sense (Ex: 50-100mg/day most orals), and the only people who come out preaching about the dangers of organ damage on gear are retards like Bostin Loyd who purposely chose to take absurd amounts of gear and blatantly ignored their body telling them to stop.

As for blood pressure, if you are predisposed to high blood pressure in your family just treat it like anyone else would. Gear users do not really need some specific protocol, just do the same shit normies do (better sleep, cardio, decent diet, prescription medication if absolutely necessary).

TL/DR: This shit is not that dangerous and you don't need to be concerned about these things unless you're doing retarded clout chaser blasts.

 

[TorTails]

ReviveMD has great organ support supplements

 

[psauce]

Everyone has a different approach, but mine is to take only what's necessary -- both for PEDs and ancillaries.

Start with a cycle you think (or know from the past) you'll tolerate well. Take your blood pressure regularly and get some blood work a few weeks in. Tons of sources carry meds for BP (hydrochlorothiazide, telmisartan, clonidine, cialis), cholesterol (atorvastatin, rosuvastatin), and liver enzymes (people like milk thistle but I have no experience). The liver in a bit tricky, but it's fairly easy to manage because it's most often associated with orals and reverts to normal after discontinuation. It's up to you to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze.

However, if you're monitoring your BP and bloods, and there's no indication that you *need* to take any of those things, don't take them. If you can address a problem without meds, do it -- avoid an AI by injecting the same weekly dose every other day rather than once a week, for instance. You can also spread your risk such that you are taking moderate amounts of synergistic compounds rather than huge amounts of a single one. This can put a few different parameters in a "yellow" without spiking any one of them far into the "red."

The calculus is a bit different if you have a history of organ trouble, and you might want to start off with something to prevent any exposure at all -- prophylacitic, low-dose BP meds or something. But hopefully someone with that history is acutely aware of that risk and is not going to trust supplements alone to preserve their organ health.

TLDR - take nothing until there's empirical evidence requiring it.

 

[silentprofessional]

Great advice on here already but I'll tell you what I'm taking for organ support and blood pressure.

NAC, TUDCA for liver support
Astragalus root powder for kidney support
Losartan for blood pressure

 

[Misterbrooks]

I appreciate all the advice, and I only take what's necessary, but i've found tren and deca both raise my blood pressure pretty decently, and no matter what oral I take i get elevated liver and kidney levels. High normal but still too high for me.
My last cycle was 50mg dbol a day for 4 weeks, 300mg deca 750 test 500eq for 16 weeks.
I'm mainly worried now being 5 years older, keeping things in the normal range as they are now.