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Post your experiences with the compound listed in the title here. Anything from doses, sides, gains made, gains kept, mental sides, etc. Try and think to write your post from the perspective that someone totally new to AAS is reading this post.
 

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Alright I’ll be the first, have ran npp two times one of them being the bulk I’m on atm.

400 test e
200 npp
250 mast e

First bulk was 500 test and 300 npp but I decided to lower the dose ages because of adding mast. Plus I haven’t seen “less” progress comparing this bulk to last bulk other than the food I’m eating is cleaner and the mast makes me more dry.

I don’t take prami or caber, just 300mg p5p. So I don’t really get limp dicked but my nips are still a little puffy and nandrolone definitely makes me lethargic except when I’m in the gym. Also weird jealousy stuff in my head with my gf but I can usually just remind myself it’s the 19-nor fucking with my head a little.

also definitely switching to deca next bulk, I fucking hate pinning ED I switched to subq after 8 weeks. But I’d suggest anyone start with npp subq is the way to go if you running like 300mg or under and see how it affects you. I can see how 19-nors can fuck with peoples heads. I’ve never tried tren but I could only imagine lol.

Edited: oh yeah gains I forgot to write that.
Last bulk started at 180 got up to 215 (not clean diet)
This bulk I started at 175 which is the leanest I’ve ever been around 10% and I’m at 187 in 8 weeks. eating the cleanest I ever had now.

And lifts so far they’ve gone up about 10 lbs maybe 15 on some the biggest being shoulder press I’m up to 100s, last bull I only got up to 90s. I usually don’t go insanely heavy or for PRs but I can tell things are lighter I guess is a good way to put it haha.
 

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Ran Deca anywhere from 100-900 mg per week.

I really dislike this compound. I thought maybe it was the other gear in my cycle that was causing adverse effects in combo but nope it was nandrolone.

Nandrolone is a phenomenal anabolic. It definitely has quite potent muscle-building properties and uniquely lubricates your joints. It’s also relatively hairsafe BUT the negatives make this compound not worth it imo.

Main negative side effect of nandrolone was HORRENDOUS lethargy and a near-depressed state of mind. All I wanted to do was lay on the couch all day long. My ADHD meds became ineffective. I lost interested in my hobbies and friends. Nandrolone dulls you out over time and the most insidious thing about it is how slowly it happens. You almost don’t realize it until you stop the Deca and 4 weeks later feel amazing lol.
 

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Nandrolone dulls you out over time and the most insidious thing about it is how slowly it happens. You almost don’t realize it until you stop the Deca and 4 weeks later feel amazing lol.
I am curious to see if this happens to me. I have been on a simple Test/Deca cycle for the last few months and recently (around 3ish weeks) I have been feeling kinda lethargic, but I just figured that I was kinda burnt out from work and not so happy with other parts of my life....
Time will tell though because I only have a couple cc's left before I drop down to Test only for a few weeks then down to a cruise level of test after that.
That being said I love nandrolone and have seen great gains during this cycle (started with NPP then moved to Deca after that vial was gone). Weird thing is that I felt great for the vast majority of the cycle.
 

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Ran Deca anywhere from 100-900 mg per week.

I really dislike this compound. I thought maybe it was the other gear in my cycle that was causing adverse effects in combo but nope it was nandrolone.

Nandrolone is a phenomenal anabolic. It definitely has quite potent muscle-building properties and uniquely lubricates your joints. It’s also relatively hairsafe BUT the negatives make this compound not worth it imo.

Main negative side effect of nandrolone was HORRENDOUS lethargy and a near-depressed state of mind. All I wanted to do was lay on the couch all day long. My ADHD meds became ineffective. I lost interested in my hobbies and friends. Nandrolone dulls you out over time and the most insidious thing about it is how slowly it happens. You almost don’t realize it until you stop the Deca and 4 weeks later feel amazing lol
At what dosage do you notice these side effects? And how much test are you running with it?
 

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At what dosage do you notice these side effects? And how much test are you running with it?
x2 on this if anyone has insights on Deca + Test. I'm considering trying low dose Deca for joints
Sup rtards I’ll chime in, I run npp in most/all my bulks. Actually but added it in 8 weeks into test/mast. Shit’ll make you grow like a weed BUT there are obviously some sides that aren’t too fun

Main one FOR ME being mental health. At around 300-400mg I’ll get a weird I wouldn’t go all out and call it depressed but I don’t feel as motivated unless I’m in the gym. When I’m in the gym it’s like a hunger for getting big idk that one is weird, lethargic for sure. And to top it off I get a little paranoid of my girl cheating (I have not a single shred of any evidence or anything at all to think she’s cheating it’s legit just wack ass dreams/nightmares) and that’s it for those sides


One thing to definitely mention is prolactin. Yes you’ll get some milky milk from the tatas if you aren’t 1 taking your AI and 2 not implementing 200-400mg of P5P it’s just a form of vitamin b6 but does something with cortisol which in turn lowers prolactin a little. But if that doesn’t help caber might be needed.

Now that we’ve covered those, let’s talk about DECA DICK YAAAAYYYYYYY!!!! Jk that shit sucks. But good news is our (my) favorite compound mast can take care of that. Or if you aren’t into running more oil then proviron is the next best thing.

I think that covers most of nand with sides and what to expect. Also remember everyone is different, I’ve seen one guys go way down hill on it in terms of mental health and others get more happy and horny without mast or proviron. Just like anything else, trial and error. If you’ve never run it before I think the cookie cutter bulking stack would be 500 test 300 npp.

Npp bc if you start not liking it you can immediately drop it as it’s a shorter ester, the 500-300 ratio for the more dht conversion with the test but like I said prior everyone different. I need an additional dht to help.

Nand is not for everyone. Just like tren isn’t for everyone.
 

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Sup rtards I’ll chime in, I run npp in most/all my bulks. Actually but added it in 8 weeks into test/mast. Shit’ll make you grow like a weed BUT there are obviously some sides that aren’t too fun

Main one FOR ME being mental health. At around 300-400mg I’ll get a weird I wouldn’t go all out and call it depressed but I don’t feel as motivated unless I’m in the gym. When I’m in the gym it’s like a hunger for getting big idk that one is weird, lethargic for sure. And to top it off I get a little paranoid of my girl cheating (I have not a single shred of any evidence or anything at all to think she’s cheating it’s legit just wack ass dreams/nightmares) and that’s it for those sides


One thing to definitely mention is prolactin. Yes you’ll get some milky milk from the tatas if you aren’t 1 taking your AI and 2 not implementing 200-400mg of P5P it’s just a form of vitamin b6 but does something with cortisol which in turn lowers prolactin a little. But if that doesn’t help caber might be needed.

Now that we’ve covered those, let’s talk about DECA DICK YAAAAYYYYYYY!!!! Jk that shit sucks. But good news is our (my) favorite compound mast can take care of that. Or if you aren’t into running more oil then proviron is the next best thing.

I think that covers most of nand with sides and what to expect. Also remember everyone is different, I’ve seen one guys go way down hill on it in terms of mental health and others get more happy and horny without mast or proviron. Just like anything else, trial and error. If you’ve never run it before I think the cookie cutter bulking stack would be 500 test 300 npp.

Npp bc if you start not liking it you can immediately drop it as it’s a shorter ester, the 500-300 ratio for the more dht conversion with the test but like I said prior everyone different. I need an additional dht to help.

Nand is not for everyone. Just like tren isn’t for everyone.
Hey at what week do you start feeling weird from npp?
 

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Deca and NPP give me unreal mass gains and provide fantastic joint lubrication.
Like others have mentioned, the mental sides are what prevent me from using it often. This hormone in particular spirals me into a weird depression where I find it hard to see the positives in my life.
Can you remember what week you start feeling weird mentally from npp?
 

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Can you remember what week you start feeling weird mentally from npp?
I personally encountered the mental aspects around weeks 3-4, although it's difficult to pinpoint them exactly. In the moment, these effects might not be immediately noticeable; they tend to become apparent after completing the entire cycle upon reflection. For me, the satisfaction of witnessing significant gains in size and strength outweighed the negative mental aspects during that time. I felt incredible at the gym and received daily compliments. However, it did have an impact on my work life, leading me to discontinue NPP after 8 weeks.

Will I run it again? Absolutely, but this time I plan to gradually increase the dosage from 250 to 400 over a span of 3 weeks, rather than the approach I used last time, which involved 600 test and 400 npp. During my previous cycle, I noticed some intense thoughts during a week at 500npp, so I scaled back to 400, which I knew I could handle well. NPP is something you need to figure out the right dose for, balancing the mental effects with the positive outcomes in terms of strength and size.
 

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I mean the “weird” shit for me starts at week 2 on npp just because it’s a shorter ester
I have been on 300 npp for 3 weeks now and I haven't felt any negative sides. Could I be in the clear? Do all people get bad sides from it ?
 

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I have been on 300 npp for 3 weeks now and I haven't felt any negative sides. Could I be in the clear? Do all people get bad sides from it ?
Na man, everyone’s different. It’s a good thing! Don’t wanna chase sides. I’d say if you still feel good by week 4-5 then just up it to 400, only more gains ya know.

I’m gonna try to go up to 400 but I’m only up to 225 and I’m getting a lil anxiety so we’ll see how much I can take.
 

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Na man, everyone’s different. It’s a good thing! Don’t wanna chase sides. I’d say if you still feel good by week 4-5 then just up it to 400, only more gains ya know.

I’m gonna try to go up to 400 but I’m only up to 225 and I’m getting a lil anxiety so we’ll see how much I can take.
Thanks man hope you are having a great labor day buddy I'm about to go lift :D I will probably stick to what I'm doing 500 test 300 npp and just run that for a while. Maybe I will try higher npp my next blast. I'm gonna get bloods to see how my cholesterol is and uncapped test tomorrow as well
 
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Just threw in 600 npp with 700 mast and test 700 as well. i’m loving it physically but Idk if I can handle it emotionally. I’m happily married in a wonderful relationship and wife is basically addicted to me physically emotionally but since the npp, I feel delusional for the thoughts I’ve been having/feeling jealous and irrational. It’s almost too much
 
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Deca and NPP give me unreal mass gains and provide fantastic joint lubrication.
Like others have mentioned, the mental sides are what prevent me from using it often. This hormone in particular spirals me into a weird depression where I find it hard to see the positives in my life.
I’m on it and spiraling downward too. I have so many over the top cool things in my life and normally my state of joy and well-being permeates any room I’m in, but I feel like If I get any worse i’m gonna curl up in a ball crying in front of my girl and tell her how I can’t handle npp feeling paranoid and delusional lmao, this is some weird stuff.
 
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Thanks for all the insight fellahs. The comments sent me to NPP over Deca given the half-life. It didn't click for me that Deca has a half-life of 6 days AFTER its been de-esterified (which I'm assuming means broken down and starts being used by the body) compared with hours for Testosterone. Which explains why Deca is in your system for months.
 

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I’m on it and spiraling downward too. I have so many over the top cool things in my life and normally my state of joy and well-being permeates any room I’m in, but I feel like If I get any worse i’m gonna curl up in a ball crying in front of my girl and tell her how I can’t handle npp feeling paranoid and delusional lmao, this is some weird stuff.
No wonder Lee priest said he was suicidal when he first was competing in USA lol.... (he loves deca)
 
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