I know a lot of you are way more experience than I am. This is why I'm reaching out to you. Currently incarcerated and having abundance of time for the weight pile so I want to know what's a good starter cycle. Right now doing one body part a day for 5 days a week. Have been on off the weightpile for the last 15 years but I've never used roids. My workout partners want to do winv to get nice and lean and lose some belly fat. But I was into the impression that more muscle mass would mean more calories burned so I suggested doing a stack. Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about so I'm reaching out to you. Can you give me an idea of what we should stack we all work out don't miss many days and we can eat healthy if wanted. I want to lose belly fat get toned up and gain some lean good muscle mass. Getting injectables isn't a problem nor is oral. Please give me your advice and the reasoning behind it I would much appreciate it. Much love and respect to you guys for taking the time
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Gullinbursti
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First of all. Congratulations for being in an institution that has weights and access to gear lol. Where I was you had pull up, dip bar, sand and water bags and a partner on your back for squats. With absolutely no gear which I wouldn't have used back then anyway.
It's not recommended to run winny or just about anything without a base of testosterone. You'll shit down your natural production and without having any will likely experience some not fun side effects. So id always recommend running at least 100mg of test witg any cycle. Also whether you lose fat or gain muscle is going to depend on diet more than what you use.
Will you have access to clean needles in there? If so I'd keep it simple and run 300-500mg of test only for 12-16 weeks. Injecting at least twice per week. You're going to want ancillaries like aromasin in case of high estrogen. You'll know if you have it because of bloating, mood swings, too emotional, sensitive or puffy nipples and you'll probably be super horny but you're dick isn't working great. A slight bit of any estrogen inhibitor will correct that immediately. But its important to not overdo it and cause low estrogen because you'll feel far worse at that point. So a little goes a long way. You'll also want to have some kind of pct drugs. Something as simple and cheap as nolvadex, 10mg per day for 4-6 weeks will likely restart your natural production at the end of the cycle. Wait two weeks after your last test shot to take that to make sure your system has cleared the metabolites. That's about it man. Simple enough. Test, aromasin and nolvadex. Simple but effective cycle.
Hope you have a release date brother and stay safe/dangerous or whatever you have to do to make it home
It's not recommended to run winny or just about anything without a base of testosterone. You'll shit down your natural production and without having any will likely experience some not fun side effects. So id always recommend running at least 100mg of test witg any cycle. Also whether you lose fat or gain muscle is going to depend on diet more than what you use.
Will you have access to clean needles in there? If so I'd keep it simple and run 300-500mg of test only for 12-16 weeks. Injecting at least twice per week. You're going to want ancillaries like aromasin in case of high estrogen. You'll know if you have it because of bloating, mood swings, too emotional, sensitive or puffy nipples and you'll probably be super horny but you're dick isn't working great. A slight bit of any estrogen inhibitor will correct that immediately. But its important to not overdo it and cause low estrogen because you'll feel far worse at that point. So a little goes a long way. You'll also want to have some kind of pct drugs. Something as simple and cheap as nolvadex, 10mg per day for 4-6 weeks will likely restart your natural production at the end of the cycle. Wait two weeks after your last test shot to take that to make sure your system has cleared the metabolites. That's about it man. Simple enough. Test, aromasin and nolvadex. Simple but effective cycle.
Hope you have a release date brother and stay safe/dangerous or whatever you have to do to make it home
Gullinbursti
Active member
Can you say what country you're in? If not I understand. If the US I can only assume some sweet private prison somewhere or a really chill state prison. That's wild that you have or can get everything you need. I only saw/had phones, tobacco, random drugs and that's about it
Well I thank you very much for the info. So for the test... Test e, test c, or what specifically do you recommend? Can I use winstrol with it? I'm so green man. I hear anavar is good and mild side effects? Can you give me specifics and what good vendor to deal with please? I would really appreciate it. Injections are not an issue. Is it too much to ask for specific day to day plan for 5 day work out week? Like take this and this on these days etc etc. Just want good results big dog. Thanks so much everyone
I'm in the usa. Minimum security. Basically free
Gullinbursti
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Test E and C are essentially the same thing. Different ester but some rate of metabolizing. If possible I'd inject M W F. But that's not necessary and you can do just W and Saturday. That'll keep your levels pretty stable. You can take winny but I'd recommend var if you don't mind paying a little more. Winny is harsher on your level, var is metabolized in the kidneys and much easier on the body. Both are great though. I'd say 40ish mg per day for 8 weeks of var would be perfect. Beginning or end of cycle. Don't forget some Ai and Pct meds. They're cheap and will make your life much easier. You may not even need any estrogen control especially if youre leaner but you might
Thanks again. I have no idea what var is. Can you explain? I know I'm a pain in the ass. Sorry man. So I would inject test on Wed and Saturday, var when and the ai and pct when and in what duration. Pretend I'm an idiot, which in regards to this, I am. I'm not lean, I'm 6 foot 2, 275 and 45 years old. Big frame but a belly. I have no way to get hormone tests so I won't know my levels. Thanks again
Gullinbursti
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Keep in mind that if you really want this cycle to be a success then you have to push yourself and eat a lot. You won't just magically grow a bunch of keepable muscle because you injected something. You need to consistently make progress with your lifts and focus on progressive overload. Always pushing to add more weight from workout to workout. Get as strong as you can and you'll build muscle. Id do a 5×5 of a compound movement for each muscle group, always progressing. Then add in higher rep sets after 12-20 reps. Always add either volume or weight. Don't neglect legs. You'll be able to recover faster so take advantage of it. Eat in a surplus but not too much so you don't gain too much fat. Vendor wise I like Muscle Candy, Hypertrophy and recently used Sha Athletics. Who I actually need to review they're solid
Gullinbursti
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Anavar. You'd take it orally once per day. Ai only if high estrogen symptoms arise. Pct two weeks after your last shot of test. Honestly man at your weight and body fat, I wouldn't recommend really blasting. But you can. Forget what I said about eating in a surplus. You should try to stay around 3000 cals, not much over, 200 grams of protein daily. You'll still gain muscle amd strength in a deficit because you have so much fat. You could probably lose 30+ lbs in the next 4 months and still have way more muscle and look better. If I were you, I'd do like 250mg test, 40 mg anavar for 12-16 weeks. Eat at or under 3000 cals, same thing always pushing for progress no matter what and you'll be in a way better spot
bluescat510
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You're about to inject things in your body but haven't gotten a basic cycle planned out yet. OP, I hope you hold off and continue to train hard/eat right and use this time to research what a beginner cycle is, the "what if's" that can occur, what you need on hand in event XYZ happens, etc. Without having access to blood work when you need it (before cycle, mid cycle, and/or post cycle), you are taking a huge risk if somewhere were to go south.