Nolva

[mshbmx]

Hey, dudes.
I’m back cruising now and had a weird spike of gyno come along soon after I came off test/deca cycle. Bloodwork came back e2/prolactin were both low. ultrasensitive e2 test as well.
I was going to pop some nolva to help this mystery gyno but my cruise dose puts my e2 already high. I know nolva doesn’t raise or lower estrogen. But will it try to kickstart my HPTA and raise T converting to E raising my total estrogen, even though I’m on trt?

Mainly I just don’t want to come off nolva and be fighting high E2

 

[MikeAlstott]

I'd think it would be pretty much irrelevant while you are continually shutdown on cruise. Nolva makes me feel like ass, I don't understand why people are still using it for gyno. Raloxifene is way better in my experience and you won't have to think about whether or not it's affecting your Test levels.

 

[JDLift]

I just take a big chunk of powder from my little raw container anytime I feel my nips getting out of hand and it seems to fix the issue a day or two later. Not gonna lie, this is probably retarded but it works and requires no thought put into it. The scooper I'm using is meant to pull out 25mg I believe and I just overflow it. Guesstimate it's a 50-80mg dose. Been doing the trick for years.

 

[mshbmx]

I'd think it would be pretty much irrelevant while you are continually shutdown on cruise. Nolva makes me feel like ass, I don't understand why people are still using it for gyno. Raloxifene is way better in my experience and you won't have to think about whether or not it's affecting your Test levels.

I thought so as well, I just remember some broscience about how on trt it can still stimulate LH and increase T therefore having a spike in E in the testes that an Ai cannot control. But that’s probably for a long period of time and not just a short run to control gyno? I’m using nolva cause I got some on hand and haven’t found a Rolax source. But I’ll look more into that tonight.
Any ideas why I got a bb and sensitive left nip on crashed estrogen as of 2 weeks ago?

 

[mshbmx]

I just take a big chunk of powder from my little raw container anytime I feel my nips getting out of hand and it seems to fix the issue a day or two later. Not gonna lie, this is probably retarded but it works and requires no thought put into it. The scooper I'm using is meant to pull out 25mg I believe and I just overflow it. Guesstimate it's a 50-80mg dose. Been doing the trick for years.

Hey, whatever it takes to get the job done!
Do you take a Ai or just blast nolva every once and a blue moon when you have issues?

Any ideas why I got a bb and sensitive left nip on crashed estrogen as of 2 weeks ago?

 

[JDLift]

Hey, whatever it takes to get the job done!
Do you take a Ai or just blast nolva every once and a blue moon when you have issues?

Any ideas why I got a bb and sensitive left nip on crashed estrogen as of 2 weeks ago?

No AI, just down scoops of Nolva. I picked up a lot of raw from Dragon a few years ago and until it runs out that's my go-to. Honestly couldn't tell you why other than the basic 'This is a possible side effect of gear', as I don't really struggle with sides much at all but others can't even run a high cruise dose without daily Adex. It's all just a learning experience and a lifelong experiment on yourself, just keep track of things in a notepad or your phone or in a journal. Log stuff down so you can look back in the future if you wonder why shit flared up and see "Oh right last time I ran X this happened at the X-weeks point and I fixed it with X". Don't gotta go full book nerd status but I log all pins on my calendar and if something comes up I'll scribble myself a note on it. Like, I know 25mg/day Anadrol is not a problem for me but 50-75mg has been consistently problematic with no more noticeable improvement than the 25mg doses, and I know I can put all my long esters into one pinning day per week instead of hitting them 2-3x per week in 1/3 or 1/2 the total dose and still make the same progress. Little stuff but it goes a long way to give you a progress sheet just like tracking lifts or food.

 

[gains3000]

nandrolone gives a lot of guys gyno even with estrogen and prolactin in range.
the nandrolone hormone fucks with dht and makes you sensetive to estrogen.

 

[Sierracon99]

I hate gyno flare ups soooo much. Years and years ago I actually had puberty gyno which I didn't notice until I was mid twenties (several years b4 gear) my right nip got irritated from my rut sack strap of all things on a hike while I was in the service, went in and they removed the mass and the gland in my right pec, he offered to remove the gland under my left nip and mentioned there was a very small mass but of course my young dumbass didn't say yes and of course now my left nip has flare ups now and then. I'm thinking about going to the VA to see if they will remove it buttttt they run blood tests prior so I'd have to come off completely for a month or so and then explain why my lipids are fucked from all the tren and zero test at 36 lmaooo. If I only knew back then. Anyways I'd run ralox b4 nolva,, I've had good results with both but ralox is alot easier.

 

[mshbmx]

nandrolone gives a lot of guys gyno even with estrogen and prolactin in range.
the nandrolone hormone fucks with dht and makes you sensetive to estrogen.

Is this the dhn interference with dht at the estrogen receptor you’re talking about?
Ive been off for 4 1/2 weeks now, when should I expect this to stop?

 

[mshbmx]

I hate gyno flare ups soooo much. Years and years ago I actually had puberty gyno which I didn't notice until I was mid twenties (several years b4 gear) my right nip got irritated from my rut sack strap of all things on a hike while I was in the service, went in and they removed the mass and the gland in my right pec, he offered to remove the gland under my left nip and mentioned there was a very small mass but of course my young dumbass didn't say yes and of course now my left nip has flare ups now and then. I'm thinking about going to the VA to see if they will remove it buttttt they run blood tests prior so I'd have to come off completely for a month or so and then explain why my lipids are fucked from all the tren and zero test at 36 lmaooo. If I only knew back then. Anyways I'd run ralox b4 nolva,, I've had good results with both but ralox is alot easier.

Oh man that’s terrible I’d kick myself in the ass. Hopefully if VA is open to it you probably wouldn’t have to pay a dime.
I didn’t know irritating/touching gyno could cause a flare up to get worse? I thought that was just prolactin based gyno?

 

[Sierracon99]

Oh man that’s terrible I’d kick myself in the ass. Hopefully if VA is open to it you probably wouldn’t have to pay a dime.
I didn’t know irritating/touching gyno could cause a flare up to get worse? I thought that was just prolactin based gyno?

It was weird because I guess I had it for years and it never even hurt or anything, but I had a 90lb pack on and the strap went across my right nip really hard and it was really bad pain and it didn't go away until they cut it out. God I wish I had them both taken but hey, dumb 20something kid that had zero knowledge on the topic and wasn't initiated in this life at all. Oh and yeah I'd have to get off everything and get clean bloods for them to even consider it, lameeeee.