[OFFICIAL] Old Guys Thread

[TonyPerkis11]

Is anyone in the 40+ crowd have any takes on injectable prewo, such as how it impacted your bloodwork and how you felt compared to oral aas? I've stuck to only anavar for the past several years for my liver's sake. But really tempted to give muscle candy's sweet prewo (30mg test base/30mg tren base/1mg mtren) a shot at .3cc dosing before heavy compound lift days. Or even injectable dbol, which was my favorite oral for the pump and euphoria.

 

[Metflex17]

Hey guys, another over 40 guy here. On the TRT train cruising at 210mg test cyp per week broken up daily. Getting bloodwork done in a week, then starting a blast at 400mg for 12 weeks and var for the first 8 weeks.

Love this thread, and love to hear the tips and stories from other guys my age, with families and such just trying to live longer, more fruitful lives with the same energy levels we had 20 years ago.

 

[MachuFuku]

Is anyone in the 40+ crowd have any takes on injectable prewo, such as how it impacted your bloodwork and how you felt compared to oral aas? I've stuck to only anavar for the past several years for my liver's sake. But really tempted to give muscle candy's sweet prewo (30mg test base/30mg tren base/1mg mtren) a shot at .3cc dosing before heavy compound lift days. Or even injectable dbol, which was my favorite oral for the pump and euphoria.

Very interested in this as well. Would love anybody's feedback even if they're not an old guy.

 

[petefox]

I'm 48, can I join?

 

[Metflex17]

Thanks for joining us. Wish I could give you more feedback

But it sounds like you have a very reasonable plan put together. Only thing that jumps out to me is you might benefit from HGH.

How's your E2? Do you have a plan for estrogen management while on blast?

Currently working this out. Getting blood drawn next week, hopefully my primary will listen to me and add estradiol to my labs, or I’ll check it independently.

Don’t really want to add in anything else, especially HGH with a family history of cancer. Was always worried about TRT in that respect initially, but nothing solid out there showing a real link between TRT and prostate cancer, actually some studies showing it to be a preventative measure.

That said, anything mild you guys could recommend for preventative E2 management? I already deal with light chest acne on my cruise.. worried about massive breakout on blast.

 

[MachuFuku]

Currently working this out. Getting blood drawn next week, hopefully my primary will listen to me and add estradiol to my labs, or I’ll check it independently.

Don’t really want to add in anything else, especially HGH with a family history of cancer. Was always worried about TRT in that respect initially, but nothing solid out there showing a real link between TRT and prostate cancer, actually some studies showing it to be a preventative measure.

That said, anything mild you guys could recommend for preventative E2 management? I already deal with light chest acne on my cruise.. worried about massive breakout on blast.

For E2, look into Primo. Very mild. Limited side effects. Probably the safest outside of TestC. ontrols E2 and adds anabolism.

 

[BJJ_blackbelch]

Fellas, im thinking of adding primo to my personal TRT+ at the moment. My protocol until August would be 300 test / 100 primo. Will that dose of primo be enough for any benefits? My blood work is perfect on just 300 test alone. How will primo most likely affect it? Also, does primo raise blood pressure? Thanks for your guys' help.

 

[Metflex17]

Curious about this too. Being an old timer, I haven’t wanted to add in too many compounds, or go too high on my test. Been on a TRT dose at 210mg per week since last May (daily pinning), with a span of 3-4 months at 280mg. Only real sides I’ve had were chest acne, which I’m still working on controlling.

After bloodwork on Thursday, going to add in Anavar, and was contemplating going back up to around 300 mg test cyp for the 8 weeks I’m running var. At this point, I’m looking to lean out a bit, and maybe add a couple more lbs of muscle before a spring/summer cruise. Primo seems to be the safest way to control E2, but I’d only consider adding anything else if absolutely necessary. I know it’s very individualized, but how high of a test dose on average should one consider running another compound to control E2?

 

[rastaman69]

Curious about this too. Being an old timer, I haven’t wanted to add in too many compounds, or go too high on my test. Been on a TRT dose at 210mg per week since last May (daily pinning), with a span of 3-4 months at 280mg. Only real sides I’ve had were chest acne, which I’m still working on controlling.

After bloodwork on Thursday, going to add in Anavar, and was contemplating going back up to around 300 mg test cyp for the 8 weeks I’m running var. At this point, I’m looking to lean out a bit, and maybe add a couple more lbs of muscle before a spring/summer cruise. Primo seems to be the safest way to control E2, but I’d only consider adding anything else if absolutely necessary. I know it’s very individualized, but how high of a test dose on average should one consider running another compound to control E2?

I'm 46 and am so close to wrapping up 16 weeks of 500mg test cyp/week. I ran deca at 300mg/week for the first 12 weeks. Experimented with small doses of anastrazole but don't have e2 sides. E2 was at 70 pg/ml without any ai. Seems high but my testosterone total was over 2200 as well. Without any noticable e2 sides, I'm hesitant to try lowering it. This bloodwork was drawn 7 weeks into the cycle.

Like you say, this stuff is very individual.

 

[MachuFuku]

1 month in. 300 Test C. 300 Primo. 20 mg Anavar pre-workout (few days a week.) 3 ius Gh. Loving it. Only complaint is libido is a bit lower than norm. Wondering if the 1 to 1 ratio of primo might be a bit too much. I am a high aromatizer so the thought was to keep in check without an AI by running 1 to 1. Shoulders, chest, and arms all popping. Just had a few of my staff and the front desk girl at the doctors asking "how much have you been lifting? Best shape of my adult life. Feeling blessed, healthy, and motivate.

 

[MachuFuku]

I'm 46 and am so close to wrapping up 16 weeks of 500mg test cyp/week. I ran deca at 300mg/week for the first 12 weeks. Experimented with small doses of anastrazole but don't have e2 sides. E2 was at 70 pg/ml without any ai. Seems high but my testosterone total was over 2200 as well. Without any noticable e2 sides, I'm hesitant to try lowering it. This bloodwork was drawn 7 weeks into the cycle.

Like you say, this stuff is very individual.

Any sides from the Deca? I am interested but have heard lots of nightmare stories about anxiety (which I am prone to.)

 

[MachuFuku]

I'm 48, can I join?

Yes sir. Lets do this!

 

[rastaman69]

Any sides from the Deca? I am interested but have heard lots of nightmare stories about anxiety (which I am prone to.)

I was cautious and told myself ahead of time "if you start having mental issues - remember you're taking a *not insignificant* amount of gear"

There was one day the neighbor kids were riding dirtbikes all freaking day up and down the street. I was in the kitchen cooking or something. My son was in the living room watching YouTube videos on the TV, louder than I'd prefer. I was getting pretty upset about it internally. I had to remind myself "none of this matters, it's just bullshit, you're maybe responding differently from the gear". I asked my son "hey can you turn that down a bit?" That's the extent of it, the only memorable mental incident I can remember. Pretty mild. No insecurities about my girlfriend or her exes like people say, no deca dick. Overall, I'm a deca fan.

 

[BJJ_blackbelch]

1 month in. 300 Test C. 300 Primo. 20 mg Anavar pre-workout (few days a week.) 3 ius Gh. Loving it. Only complaint is libido is a bit lower than norm. Wondering if the 1 to 1 ratio of primo might be a bit too much. I am a high aromatizer so the thought was to keep in check without an AI by running 1 to 1. Shoulders, chest, and arms all popping. Just had a few of my staff and the front desk girl at the doctors asking "how much have you been lifting? Best shape of my adult life. Feeling blessed, healthy, and motivate.

Who did you choose as a source for your primo? Heard all kinds of stuff about it being faked and so on…. I’ve also though about using anavar for pre workout a couple times a week.. I’ve heard of guys that say they have done that for years.. any real benefit to var on workout days only? Maybe 3-4x a week?

 

[petefox]

Who did you choose as a source for your primo? Heard all kinds of stuff about it being faked and so on…. I’ve also though about using anavar for pre workout a couple times a week.. I’ve heard of guys that say they have done that for years.. any real benefit to var on workout days only? Maybe 3-4x a week?

PharmaHGH and Hunter have good primo, got a client that's paranoid and tests everything UGL and shows me the results. They passed bigtime.

Anavar you could run 20mg daily for 12 week bursts, or 50mg pre-workout 3-4x/wk. I've run it at 40mg daily and 60mg on training days, the pumps are just stupid!

 

[MachuFuku]

Who did you choose as a source for your primo? Heard all kinds of stuff about it being faked and so on…. I’ve also though about using anavar for pre workout a couple times a week.. I’ve heard of guys that say they have done that for years.. any real benefit to var on workout days only? Maybe 3-4x a week?

Picked it up from Muscle Candy. Also, another member recommended Hunter. I would avoid Hunter based upon all the recent reviews.

PharmaHGH and Hunter have good primo, got a client that's paranoid and tests everything UGL and shows me the results. They passed bigtime.

Anavar you could run 20mg daily for 12 week bursts, or 50mg pre-workout 3-4x/wk. I've run it at 40mg daily and 60mg on training days, the pumps are just stupid!

Hunter does not seem like a good option at the moment. Lots of upset customers. Will check out PharmaHGH.

 

[TonyPerkis11]

Is anyone in the 40+ crowd have any takes on injectable prewo, such as how it impacted your bloodwork and how you felt compared to oral aas? I've stuck to only anavar for the past several years for my liver's sake. But really tempted to give muscle candy's sweet prewo (30mg test base/30mg tren base/1mg mtren) a shot at .3cc dosing before heavy compound lift days. Or even injectable dbol, which was my favorite oral for the pump and euphoria.

^^bumping this. No one from the older crowd has any injectable prewo anecdotal or bloodwork experience?

 

[MachuFuku]

^^bumping this. No one from the older crowd has any injectable prewo anecdotal or bloodwork experience?

Thanks for bumping this. I also am interested in this topic. I've been looking at @MuscleCandy preworkout blends with some interest. I had heard Anavar was a good for preworkout. Overall. I haven't been extremely impressed with disability to help stimulate a more aggressive drive and workout.

 

[BJJ_blackbelch]

What do you guys take for sleep? I’ve been using melatonin for years but looking into something else to help. Anybody use a sleep inducing peptide?

 

[rastaman69]

What do you guys take for sleep? I’ve been using melatonin for years but looking into something else to help. Anybody use a sleep inducing peptide?

I try not to, but when I do it's a small amount of melatonin. It's really weird, melatonin seems more effective in tiny doses like 1.5mg - 3mg.

Typically I go through little runs of using it, like a week here or there. If I have trouble sleeping for a night or two I'll turn to the melatonin to be sure I get some sleep for a few days in a row then stop using it. I find usually my natty sleep is pretty good following those periods.