[OFFICIAL] Old Guys Thread

[MachuFuku]

Let’s spark the convo!

So to update, I’m on week 5 of a blast, up from TRT+ at 200mg test cyp per week. I’m up about 4 lbs and lost about 3% body fat. Sitting around 14-15%.

I was at 300mg test cyp, 150mg primo, and 50mg var split daily.

I just upped to 350/190 test/primo, and had to go 40mg var once a day (ran out of 50mg tabs, have 40mg caps). Also have 20mg caps, contemplated doing 40 and 20 daily, but don’t want to overdo it.

I want to gain 5 more lbs, and drop to 12%. Conflicting goals, but modest lean mass gain so I think It’s possible. Any advice?

Strength gains have been great, and I’m pushing myself more than o have in a few years. Results have been good so far, I want a ripped but natty look and athletic performance boost with the above gains noted.

How are you liking the Primo? Ran some for about 6 weeks (1 x 1) with my test at at about 300 a week with each with a small dose of NPP. Didn't seem to do much. Estradiol seemed to be in check but not much else. Maybe even slightly decreased libido. Added in some Mast at 1 to 1 and dialed down the primo and within a week I was feeling some increased positive aggression and libido revving up.

 

[MachuFuku]

Plus I go to the doctors allot because I get screened for all sorts of possible "old guy" issues. Doctors aren't stupid if I walk in looking like Sylvester Stallone.

Lol. This thought has occurred to me. At 48 I was 100 lbs overweight,.fatty liver, prediabetic, and borderline hypertensive. At 50, I am training 5 days a week, 90ish lbs lost, tons of muscle gained. While my TRT is prescribed, I got the "you must be a hyperresponder" when my total t came back over 1400 and free T was nearly 200. I am just waiting for them to see my IGF 1 next physical

 

[Metflex17]

How are you liking the Primo? Ran some for about 6 weeks (1 x 1) with my test at at about 300 a week with each with a small dose of NPP. Didn't seem to do much. Estradiol seemed to be in check but not much else. Maybe even slightly decreased libido. Added in some Mast at 1 to 1 and dialed down the primo and within a week I was feeling some increased positive aggression and libido revving up.

honestly, I’m only taking it to manage e2 while I up my test. Any anabolic effect is icing on the cake. Nothing crazy so far, but my chest acne is subsiding a bit, so that’s worth it for me. Modest gains so far, I’m definitely leaning out a lot. I need to eat more to gain anything, working on upping calories

 

[rastaman69]

Lol. This thought has occurred to me. At 48 I was 100 lbs overweight,.fatty liver, prediabetic, and borderline hypertensive. At 50, I am training 5 days a week, 90ish lbs lost, tons of muscle gained. While my TRT is prescribed, I got the "you must be a hyperresponder" when my total t came back over 1400 and free T was nearly 200. I am just waiting for them to see my IGF 1 next physical

Do you have elevated igf-1 from hgh? Weird thing is, both my son and I have really high igf-1 without hgh, must be genetic though I've had suspicions that l-carnatine might be affecting it. Nobody has said anything about it. 350-500+. I specifically asked my TRT doc about it. He didn't seem concerned but requested an igf3? test on my next labs.

 

[rastaman69]

I mentioned my son in the last post, it made me wonder. Do any of you have kids on gear? I had advised mmy 20 year old son to wait, but he really wanted to run a test cycle. He already had a ugl source and products in hand before he told me. Kid is sharp, probably knows more than I do so I'm pretty comfortable.

I'm glad we're so open about it.

 

[That Guy]

My youngest asked my thoughts. I told him at his age he's got a ton of testosterone flowing naturally. Use what you have first before looking to add anything. Go to the gym, eat right, and don't expect a noticeable change till 6 months to a year.

 

[That Guy]

Unfortunately we're in an era of instant gratification. Everyone wants things to happen now.

 

[Harbenger]

Unfortunately we're in an era of instant gratification. Everyone wants things to happen now.

Amen to that.
How old is your youngest TG?

 

[MachuFuku]

Unfortunately we're in an era of instant gratification. Everyone wants things to happen now.

My son is 8.

 

[MachuFuku]

Do you have elevated igf-1 from hgh? Weird thing is, both my son and I have really high igf-1 without hgh, must be genetic though I've had suspicions that l-carnatine might be affecting it. Nobody has said anything about it. 350-500+. I specifically asked my TRT doc about it. He didn't seem concerned but requested an igf3? test on my next labs.

My baseline at 48 was 169. Last test I was running 2 IU daily and had bumped to about 270. Now running 5 IU daily.

 

[mmaphd]

I mentioned my son in the last post, it made me wonder. Do any of you have kids on gear? I had advised mmy 20 year old son to wait, but he really wanted to run a test cycle. He already had a ugl source and products in hand before he told me. Kid is sharp, probably knows more than I do so I'm pretty comfortable.

I'm glad we're so open about it.

Mine's 9. I told him in the next few years I'll be teaching him proper for on the big lifts and ancillary exercises. He doesn't know I'm on, but my wife does and she's cool with it all.

If I'm stll on non-TRT AAS when he's of age, talking 25 or so, then I'll be happy to teach/guide him.

 

[That Guy]

Amen to that.
How old is your youngest TG?

22. Not the greatest shape. He grew up on PlayStation and Doritos. I'm just glad he's coming to his senses to change toward a healthier lifestyle.

 

[That Guy]

I'm sure I'm to blame. But I could only be strict to a point before crossing the line. I tried everything. What I think happened, he told me after he brought his girl home she kept repeating to him that I was hot like she was surprised.

 

[Harbenger]

Hey, that's great to everyone that has a son. I had 2 girls and the wife miscarried once between between our two girls.
You just never know, that might have been my boy. It's all water under the bridge now guys. One girl is 33 and the other is 28.

My congrats to those of you with a boy, on or off the gear. With the exception going to Machu Fuku, that kid is definitely on! LOL

 

[petefox]

My daughter is 28 as well, people think I'm her older brother.

 

[Harbenger]

My daughter is 28 as well, people think I'm her older brother.

At 48 you almost are. LOL

 

[calist181]

Funny to see this thread titled old guys. It's better than a trt titled thread. I'm 47. I'm currently on trt plus. I'm taking 175 test c and 100 mast e per week. I stick to mainly calisthenic exercises with occasional weight training and cardio.

 

[MachuFuku]

I'm sure I'm to blame. But I could only be strict to a point before crossing the line. I tried everything. What I think happened, he told me after he brought his girl home she kept repeating to him that I was hot like she was surprised.

Lol ...poor guy. A little humility and some heavy things will only make him a better person and stronger (literally.)

I am very worried about my daughter (11.) I struggled with my weight and making healthy choices most of my life and she is following in dads footsteps. I think I have her attention. She has seen how I absolutely transform myself the last 18 months and recently asked to join soccer, cross country, and is asking to go to the gym with me. She is pretty overweight but I think she is moving in the right direction. You are right, you can only push them so much before they resent you or worse, you give them a complex by trying to help and push them.

My son (8), is an athlete. He plays several sports and is good at them all. He also wants to lift with me but I am trying to keep him focused on sports performance not physique because of his age.

 

[MachuFuku]

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Hey, that's great to everyone that has a son. I had 2 girls and the wife miscarried once between between our two girls.
You just never know, that might have been my boy. It's all water under the bridge now guys. One girl is 33 and the other is 28.

My congrats to those of you with a boy, on or off the gear. With the exception going to Machu Fuku, that kid is definitely on! LOL

Daughter's are a blessing. Two healthy well adapted adult children are a dream for many!

 

[shinytoaster]

First ventroglute shot attempt and fuck I think I injected straight into the bursa of my hip. I keep reading "don't do quads" even tho I did for years with no issues. I watched about 80 videos and thought I had the right spot but as soon as i pulled the dart out the shit felt weird. Maybe it's just a weird location but now my hip is super tight. No real pain tho. Anyone have any experience with this location? Im sure my "noob" posts get annoying but after ten years since blasting and cruising I feel like I have less knowledge and more anxiety then I did in my late 20s