PCT and off cycle duration

[Garagegymguy]

Hi there. I just wanted to get a few opinions as I’m ending my first cycle I’ve done in years this week.

I just ran Test E for 8 weeks to make sure everything was on the up and up. It all seems well.

I’m going to take 20mg Tamoxifen two weeks after ending my cycle. I have almost no high Estrogen symptoms and everything on the ‘male’ side is as good as ever.

The cycle went well. Good gains, nice definition and some good cutting. I worked hard on those things as well

My questions are what doses of Tamoxifen do you suggest and should I go lower at some point. If so when? Second, how long should I wait before starting my next cycle? I’m really excited and got everything I need already (Test E, Primo, Anavar) but health must come first.

Any advise/suggestions would be amazing.

Thanks Everyone

 

[Deleted member 21405]

What was your cycle ( mg per week )and why so short?

 

[Garagegymguy]

So I tried something different. I ramped up from 125mg/week to a max of 500mg on weeks 4 and 5. Then ramped back down so I’m finishing week 8 at 200mg. The reason for the strange dosage and 8 week cycle is that it’s been 8 years since my last cycle and I’m just over 40 now. I’m also on meds that I was not on 8 years ago so I was just feeling out if there were going to be any adverse effects before I jump right in.

Everything went great so I’m ready to move forward.

 

[psauce]

Have you considered sticking on a maintenance dose so you don’t have to fuck with PCT? After screwing with PCT a few times, I made that choice and life is a lot simpler and more pleasant.

 

[Garagegymguy]

I would consider that but I don’t know much about it. Could you tell me a bit?

 

[Deleted member 21405]

I would consider that but I don’t know much about it. Could you tell me a bit?

@psauce is correct it's much easier. I never messed with trying to pct off. I just stayed on with a minimum of 200mg a week. If you do the research no matter what your natty friends say it's actually not bad for you and has a lot of good effects. You are of the age where your natural testosterone is likely not where it needs to be anyway and anyone will tell you this all leads to self prescribed TRT.

 

[Garagegymguy]

That sounds much better than taking a bunch of medication which might interact badly with other medications I’m on. If I do this how long should I want until my next cycle?

 

[Deleted member 21405]

That sounds much better than taking a bunch of medication which might interact badly with other medications I’m on. If I do this how long should I want until my next cycle?

You don't have to wait. You can just take one injection a week on the same day or split it in two like you likely were already when on cycle. I'm almost 40 myself and no shame in being on TRT. Always good erections and sex drive, steady gains, good moods mostly. Just make sure you get labs done every 3-6 months and take something for your organ health. My labs were almost identical on doctor TRT as they are on UGL TRT. Use your favorite search engine and type in benefits of TRT and you'll see many positives.

There's always those guys that claim it's terrible etc, but they're uneducated.

Edit: also everytime I see people taking these extreme pct cycles I cringe. They take a cocktail of drugs and that cannot be good for you, but people assume they are because it helps you presumably get off another drug. Correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt any of those are good for you.

 

[Garagegymguy]

So would you agree the. That I can remain on 200 test e a week and start my test e Anavar primo cycle right away. Again, I have no symptoms of anything going on and I have tamoxifen and an Ai inhibitor on hand if need be. Then just stay on the 200 test e after the cycle and prepare for my next one. With bloods of course. Am I following u correctly?

 

[Deleted member 21405]

So would you agree the. That I can remain on 200 test e a week and start my test e Anavar primo cycle right away. Again, I have no symptoms of anything going on and I have tamoxifen and an Ai inhibitor on hand if need be. Then just stay on the 200 test e after the cycle and prepare for my next one. With bloods of course. Am I following u correctly?

If you are intending to cut I don't think you'd have an issue. Thats a very mild cycle. Ultimately your decision.

 

[Garagegymguy]

What would be the difference if I wanted to bulk? Just curious

 

[Deleted member 21405]

What would be the difference if I wanted to bulk? Just curious

I'm not sure what you mean, but you'd wanna do a bulking stack. The peds you're about to use are typically for cutting and building lean mass

 

[bicycleseatsniffer]

What would be the difference if I wanted to bulk? Just curious

Deca/Dbol, Tren, Anadrol, Sdrol etc.

Keep in mind that "bulking" works with normal balls and caloric surplus. Adding super-physiologic amounts of testosterone on top of that is defacto super bulk mode with some calories and weights. Adding oxandralone with a 1:13 androgenic:anabolic ratio and you're going to be able to throw muscle on accidentally. Throw some primo on top and theres no way you can't bulk with a bit of training and some food. In short your cycle will work wonders if you put some effort behind it.

As for length between cycles, I've always heard a minimum of last cycle + pct length wait following the completion of your pct. So if you cycle 8 weeks, pct 4 weeks you would wait at least 12 weeks after finishing your current pct. This assumes pre-cycle bloodwork is good - which is really the only thing that should guide your decision.