Pros and dosages

[HeftyLefty]

What do y’all think the pros cruise on?
I mean guys like Nick Walker who never stopped making progress after Olympia, and like Ramy who never take a break and then maybe CBum.

How are they staying even semi healthy with the prep and bulk cycles they run and then to cruise on I would think higher cruise dosages also.

 

[JDLift]

They probably don’t run much at all but you morons won’t accept that. Ramy could come out with definitive proof that he only runs a gram of gear a week or something and you kids would still swear it’s lies and that you really need multiple grams daily of shit to make gains.

 

[PersianBody19]

@HeftyLefty , Going to have to agree with @JDLift on this. I would best believe they run a somewhat decent amount of test 250-375mg ( or near the same around the average gym bro dose), the usual HGH dose, and maybe some low-ish primo 200-300mg (since primo is like the least taxing on the body) weekly.

Pro’s have a diet and training way more dialed in than a “gym bro”, you would be surprised by the number of pros using the same doses or near the same doses as an average gym bro… but they look 2x-3x better

 

[HeftyLefty]

@JDLift

Well nick walker uses 500 test and 600 primo on his cruise. So thanks for your invalid response. Moron.

 

[xannyphantom]

I agree with @HeftyLefty its well known that the lowest they come down to is 500 test to cruise, anything less is absolute bs. Look at what happens to all the BB’s who go on “trt” longer than 3 months they lose all their size, You have to be on grams to retain that mass. Since being on trt is more widely accepted the new “fake natty” is these guys claiming they’re on way less shit than they’re actually on. “350 this, 200 this… muhhh genetics” fuck outta here they’re all on the same shit pushing grams on grams.

Also “health” and “fitness” are NOT THE SAME. Fitness is becoming very unhealthy, and those who are healthy are dwarfed by the social media mass monsters and kids on sarms.

"Pro’s have a diet and training way more dialed in than a “gym bro”, you would be surprised by the number of pros using the same doses or near the same doses as an average gym bro… "

yeah crock of shit. I want to see them come off and run your dose for longer than 3 months and see how much mass they lose. They’re blasting year round dude, you would too if you were making $$$ from videos, insta posts, photo shoots…

 

[HeftyLefty]

@xannyphantom finally. Someone who is not a moron.

 

[damocles13]

@HeftyLefty

They ARE NOT staying remotely healthy. That’s why Dallas McCarver is dead and it’s why Nick Walker will die young as well. Both have Matt Jansen pushing insane amounts of drugs into them and one already paid the price. And there is zero fucking way an open BBer is cruising on 500mg a week, zero. Chris Bumstead said he cruises on 500mg in his offseason and he’s a freakin classic physique competitor. The big guys are on insane dosages of not just test but growth and orals as well.

 

[Justintime85]

@JDLift You are just always on tilt lol

 

[HeftyLefty]

@damocles13
He supposedly came off for 3 months after Olympia. Not sure if that means a way lower dose, or like a OFF.
But yeah, 500 test for him to bulk with doesn’t seem like much tho

 

[system]

@JDLift you come off as someone who has no idea what you are talking about. I’m guessing you are a follower of MPMD huh?

 

[system]

@PersianBody19 eating right doesn’t retain muscle when you are the size of a IFBB pro.

 

[FrontDouble]

@99powerstroke why the jab at MPMD? curious to know why a lot of people on forums seem to dislike the man

 

[system]

@FrontDouble because he lies about everything he says to shill his TRT clinic and whatever snake oil he’s selling that week. The man takes 50 pills a day to look 40 years older than he is. His appearance alone is proof you shouldn’t listen to a word he says. He’ll eventually get dementia from all the random research chemicals he takes to maintain that stellar appearance of his.

 

[xannyphantom]

He does the same shit all the rest of fitness tube is doing, “trt this, trt that, here my lab for bloodwork, go check out my clinic…” at the end of every video where he knowingly states someones dose is lower than it actually is and errs on the side of saying “it might be possible, genetic outlier blah blah blah” STFU

Dude knows people are on grams but embraces the low dose bullshit to shill for his trt clinic. He himself is proof that you cannot retain size whilst being on trt. Not to mention he gives people the wrong impression of what is actually cycling and what is “trt” dude makes trt sound like a fuckin cycle, dudes are shutting off their fuckin balls to literally stay within a normal reference range, shit makes no sense. If you want results you have to take real dosages, worth shutting down for. Dude even made a video stating that 500mg a week can be tolerated well for years, yet shills low dose gospel to get idiots to run to his clinic. Not to mention all the bs surround turkestrone…

 

[system]

@xannyphantom awhile back MPMD made a video of him doing bloods on 100mg a week and it was 5 or 600 something total test. Then he claims he ONLY runs 125mg a week for his TRT protocol and if I recall that put him in the low 800s. You don’t retain his size at 800ng/dL. Especially for any time long…

But he does get smaller every time I see him so who knows lol.

Bottom line is dude is a liar.

 

[xannyphantom]

@99powerstroke Dude doesn’t even look like he lifts now. Jordan Oakley made a video about him on YouTube and he’s fucking small from probably just being on trt now, he says he’s not “bodybuilding focused” anymore. Lmao well see how long it takes before he fully loses it like Leo Rex.

Since we are on the topic of liars like MPMD, Greg Doucette is just as bad possibly even worse.

 

[system]

@xannyphantom Jordan is maybe the one person on YouTube that I watch occasionally because he doesn’t BS people. I can’t watch more than 11 seconds of anything with Greg in it or I get a headache. Gregs gf looks a bit masculine too lol.

 

[Prim0r0x]

I will say it takes much less gear to hold muscle. So these guys saying I use x amount now are telling the truth (some) but almost all of them will say I did stupid high doses in the past, which put the muscle there in the first place…

Also obviously I don’t know but nick walkers look certainly is on a good dose of anabolics but Matt is a bit Gh guy. He’s openly said having guys on 12iu. So if he admits that, what’s the highest number? My point there is I think walker is on a good walk of GH and Lantus by his look

 

[damocles13]

@HeftyLefty

CBum talked pretty openly about this prep taking a lot out of him. I know he got Covid and basically dropped all the gear and immediately lost about 30 pounds. That should tell posters here something about what it takes to maintain that look

 

[PersianBody19]

@Prim0r0x I am on your side with the fact that it takes much less gear to hold & that almost a majority of the pro’s did those high doses to build it in the first place,

@xannyphantom
@99powerstroke

they arent blasting year round I can guarantee you that, why do you think most of them take a shit ton of photos when they look good and recycle them on their Instagram/social media/youtube for a while… they lower their doses and drop compounds but not blast year round. They also dont want to die on purpose did you know? lol

as for the moreplates guy he is full of shit, he has an agenda which is to sell his products to 17-20 year olds to give them the dream that they can become arnold off a turkestrone pill.