[Source] Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic

[mes2424]

@apexalab I can attest to Apexa’s customer service and fast responses.

Really quick reply’s and friendly attitude. Any mistakes will be rectified quickly, and I would never feel unsure of ordering from them.

 

[Nimbus_Cl0ud]

@mes2424 Yeah he’s indeed great, he’s also quite knowledgeable when it comes to PEDs as well you can always bounce ideas off of him.

 

[rpolitics_sucks]

I hesitate to post about the things he does out of goodwill because I fear other people would ask for or expect the same things (and I don’t want cause him trouble for being nice), but I can 100% attest to that. The customer support has always been excellent, I’ve received free shit in packs randomly and he’s extremely understanding of unorthodox circumstances/requests.

 

[apexalab]

Guys, thanks so much for the kind words! I really do try to always go the extra mile for my customers, so it’s nice to know that it’s genuinely appreciated!

 

[nftrot]

I’ve been around the Canadian SST groups for 6-7 years now and have ordered from many vendors past and present. Apexa might be my favorite vendor to deal with as I don’t think I’ve ever waited longer than a couple hours for a reply. Ranks up there with Ninja if any of you have been around long enough to remember him. Multiple orders near $1000 and there’s never been an issue with him coming up short or anything.

Just got another one in recently from him if there was any question of his activity.

Probably be seeing you soon for some more Moda actually.

 

[apexalab]

Black Friday special! I’ll run this until Dec 15.

Test P is $30
M1T is $45

 

[apexalab]

I hope you guys are managing to stay sane through all the COVID bullshit!

Christmas Special!
Tren E is $60
Test P is $30

 

[Gettingolder]

@apexalab Good to see your still around and continuing to roll along.

Happy Holidays

GO

 

[eatmoreliftmore]

In the process of ordering from Apexa for my third time. This guy helped me find the website cause I contacted him and I was like where did the old SST go lol

He also reshipped an order for me (for free) back when I had an allergic reaction to one of the carrier oils

 

[17AA19Nors]

Great customer service, better than you’ll find when you go shopping. Helpful with products, very knowledgeable he went the extra mile to make sure I was taken care of. Stealth package, very discreet and well protected. Very professional. Order came in fast (considering I’m far from the origin). Nothing but good words gear is actually doing its job can’t complain either on Quality.

 

[fullofmuscle]

@17AA19Nors said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

Great customer service, better than you’ll find when you go shopping. Helpful with products, very knowledgeable he went the extra mile to make sure I was taken care of. Stealth package, very discreet and well protected. Very professional. Order came in fast (considering I’m far from the origin). Nothing but good words gear is actually doing its job can’t complain either on Quality.

Did you have your gear tested? May be quite A LOT to complain about on quality.

@apexalab Do you plan on commenting on your piss poor capping methods or were you just hoping people would forget about it and you could keep endangering the community?

 

[Gettingolder]

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@17AA19Nors said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

Great customer service, better than you’ll find when you go shopping. Helpful with products, very knowledgeable he went the extra mile to make sure I was taken care of. Stealth package, very discreet and well protected. Very professional. Order came in fast (considering I’m far from the origin). Nothing but good words gear is actually doing its job can’t complain either on Quality.

Did you have your gear tested? May be quite A LOT to complain about on quality.

@apexalab Do you plan on commenting on your piss poor capping methods or were you just hoping people would forget about it and you could keep endangering the community?

Awesome first post here lol

 

[EnhancedGrappler]

@apexalab has been emailed by the mod team to please come and address labwork in this thread: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.me/topic/11513/apexa-deca-mast-primo-tbol-proviron-results

 

[apexa]

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@17AA19Nors said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

Great customer service, better than you’ll find when you go shopping. Helpful with products, very knowledgeable he went the extra mile to make sure I was taken care of. Stealth package, very discreet and well protected. Very professional. Order came in fast (considering I’m far from the origin). Nothing but good words gear is actually doing its job can’t complain either on Quality.

Did you have your gear tested? May be quite A LOT to complain about on quality.

@apexalab Do you plan on commenting on your piss poor capping methods or were you just hoping people would forget about it and you could keep endangering the community?

While I let the readers decide what to make of this being your first post, you can read my response here and decide for yourself if my methods are “piss poor” and I’m “endangering the community”.

https://www.steroidsourcetalk.me/to...-primo-tbol-proviron-results/5?loggedin=true&

 

[fullofmuscle]

@apexa Explain how your methods aren’t piss poor and endangering the community when you’re sending out caps that are unknowingly 40% overdosed.

Do you think that maybe sending out clen that’s 40% overdosed might be a problem.

Do you think that 40% overdosed lady var might be a problem?

Do you think that 40% overdosed adex and asin might be an issue for people?

Whether this is my first post or thousandth post here is irrelevant, your recent product testing says it all and you have some major issues to fix.

 

[Gettingolder]

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@apexa Explain how your methods aren’t piss poor and endangering the community when you’re sending out caps that are unknowingly 40% overdosed.

Do you think that maybe sending out clen that’s 40% overdosed might be a problem.

Do you think that 40% overdosed lady var might be a problem?

Do you think that 40% overdosed adex and asin might be an issue for people?

Whether this is my first post or thousandth post here is irrelevant, your recent product testing says it all and you have some major issues to fix.

Yeah it sure does
You certainly have a hardon for apexa that much is clear. First post is an attack plain and simple. You have an agenda with this and it not about finding out what went wrong with either the supplied potency of the raws or the measuring methods and what can be done to fix the situation going forward.

Enjoy your crusade lol

 

[apexalab]

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@apexa Explain how your methods aren’t piss poor and endangering the community when you’re sending out caps that are unknowingly 40% overdosed.

Do you think that maybe sending out clen that’s 40% overdosed might be a problem.

Do you think that 40% overdosed lady var might be a problem?

Do you think that 40% overdosed adex and asin might be an issue for people?

Of course I think that is an issue, however, Apexa has not done that. If you have evidence to the contrary, I’d like to see it.

Nothing in the human-produced World is perfect, or mistake free. The best Engineers humanity has ever known can’t build a machine with zero failure points. The best we can do is mitigate, and reduce the chance of, error. For example, a large pharmaceutical company could HPLC/UPLC test every batch they make before releasing for sale (although, even with their billion-dollar budgets, they don’t do this in every case), but obviously small sources on your local gear forum cannot. Or, say how nothing can ever be truly 100% sterile - all you can do is take as many measures as possible to reduce contamination to a minimum. Any given person or organization will have varying ‘tolerance’ to what they will do to minimize risk. For example, I have not seen another lab in Canada use pharmacuetical-grade depyrogenated vials and stoppers, but Apexa does this to further reduce the chance of non-sterility.

I openly admitted that this may have been an error on the part of Apexa. I also openly discussed steps we would take to reduce the chance of error. UGLs love to claim they can be error-free, and just as good as Pharma gear, but this is obviously not true - we simply can’t take as many steps as they do to reduce error. That said, I always strive to do the best that I can, and I don’t make excuses for mistakes, so I’ve done the following in order to improve:

• Sent samples for analysis.
• Analyzed our mixing/capping process and made procedural improvements.
• Created a software-based (using existing software) procedural manual that is locked until previous values/procedures are confirmed. Think of this how an engine builder won’t mark a bolt until it is properly torqued in order to ensure that one bolt (step) isn’t missed.
• Developed a new labelling system that effectively eliminates any chance of swapping error.
• Most importantly, acknowledged that we make mistakes, that this is likely entirely our fault, and that it is unacceptable.

Do you have any constructive input on how else we could improve? I take my ego out of it when trying to solve problems, so I’m genuinely asking. Feel free to email me if you don’t want to post publicly. Keep in mind that we use quality, regularly-calibrated weigh scales, geometric dilution, and V-type mixers already, so this is very likely just a boneheaded math error during mixing (hence the aforementioned software solution).

 

[fullofmuscle]

@Gettingolder said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

Yeah it sure does
You certainly have a hardon for apexa that much is clear. First post is an attack plain and simple. You have an agenda with this and it not about finding out what went wrong with either the supplied potency of the raws or the measuring methods and what can be done to fix the situation going forward.

Enjoy your crusade lol

Zero agenda except for holding a source accountable to a certain standard for products people like you buy, and you know, ingest and inject into your body. Get a clue brother.

@apexalab How do you know you’ve not done that, have you sent off finished caps for testing before? Have other clients ever sent in finished caps for testing? As far as I know, the ones posted a couple weeks ago are the only ones I’ve seen and the other testing you’ve done is on raws from 3+ years ago.

Raw testing is key and it shouldn’t be a semi-decade thing, it should be an annual thing. You may offer this already but testing credits are also a great incentive for customers and to keep you from getting sloppy.

I know nothing with humans involved will ever be perfect but acknowledging an issue and going over all the variables is the solution which it seems like you’re doing. This same situation happened with another Canadian lab and if I recall correctly it was a warn out v mixer component.

I think the steps you’re taking to remedy future issues and increase quality are good, and as long as you’re not using ‘Filler - API’ as your capping formula I have no other suggestions.

For the record this wasn’t a personal attack. I was in fact a customer of yours from the Reddit sst days until I started to home brew a few years ago.

 

[apexalab]

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@apexalab How do you know you’ve not done that, have you sent off finished caps for testing before? Have other clients ever sent in finished caps for testing? As far as I know, the ones posted a couple weeks ago are the only ones I’ve seen and the other testing you’ve done is on raws from 3+ years ago.

Raw testing is key and it shouldn’t be a semi-decade thing, it should be an annual thing. You may offer this already but testing credits are also a great incentive for customers and to keep you from getting sloppy.

You have no idea what I test, and even after I offered to answer your questions via email, you didn’t even bother to ask, so why make implications that I don’t? I have sent many things for testing, and I’ve had many customers test and have blood-work done. You are wrong on all counts here.

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

For the record this wasn’t a personal attack. I was in fact a customer of yours from the Reddit sst days until I started to home brew a few years ago.

Cool. I get where you’re coming from, and I actually appreciate being challenged, but you’ve made a ton of assumptions and implications in my thread that you know are negatively affecting my business. It doesn’t matter that they are baseless assumptions, and happen to be false - you know that many people will just say “eh, this guy could be right, so why take the chance on Apexa?”. If this were truly only about the community, you’d be posting these random, doubt-raising questions in every vendor’s thread, including the US ones.

My response was quite detailed, and I thoroughly outlined my plans and actions. There’s no need to discuss it any further - you either believe in my competency, and that I’m being honest, or you don’t.

 

[fullofmuscle]

@apexalab Why make implications? Because any source with half a brain would make their testing results public to ensure confidence from buyers.
So where are all the testing results then? And I’m not talking about bullshit lab reports from your raw source like the one you posted for primo.
The only legitimate test results I’m seeing are from Jano in 2017.
The only user submitted results I see are the ones 20 days ago.
You have some user submitted blood work that shows your test actually contains test. Great. That’s the only take away from blood work.

So where’s all the other testing?