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TRT + Tren (first time)…advice on low dose?

Troharris

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Hey everyone.. I’m wondering about stacking Tren with TRT. I’ve been on TRT for years at 160mg/week of Test C, without the need of any other compounds..

I recently hired a trainer and they recommended stacking Tren with my TRT regiment, but I’m curious on a low dose of it.

What would you recommend for a low dose? Also, I only have insulin pins.. I don’t care about how king the draw takes.. would that suffice?

Lastly, how long would I have to stop the tren before my next doctor appointment? I don’t want them to see the high spike in overall test levels.

I have Tudca and NAC if needed.

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MikeAlstott

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that trainer sounds bad to be honest. I would start with a different compound first. How about Primo? I wouldn’t touch Tren unless you are competing. That’s just my opinion and based off of the information you’ve given us.
 

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1. Time for a new "trainer".
2. Trenbolone will not show on your bloodwork as elevated test, or at all honestly unless you're a WADA-tested athlete.
3. If you must add something, Anavar or Primobolan or even Masteron would be better for your goals (which we don't want to assume).

Tren is strong and unnecessary if you're not competing in bodybuilding shows.
 

Troharris

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Thank you for the responses. I thought taking tren was a little over the top. But I have been researching it and was considering taking a low dose.

I am now considering Anavar. The only thing that is discouraging me is the low libido. Is there anything for me to use that will raise libido while on it?
I plan to take my test intake up to 225 - 250 mg / week of test c. I was considering (after reading about it) 40mg Anavar daily in conjunction with a deficit and a slight bump to TRT.

Should I have anything on hand for side effects? I have TUDCA & NAC for liver.
 

effswithtren

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You don’t just throw in tren here and there like its fucking seasoning salt. I honestly don’t think it’s very useful outside of cutting weight or for quick strength boosts to bust plateaus. Depending on your goals there are almost certainly more effective compounds that are better on your health. This is dumb. Your trainer is dumb.
 

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Thank you for the responses. I thought taking tren was a little over the top. But I have been researching it and was considering taking a low dose.

I am now considering Anavar. The only thing that is discouraging me is the low libido. Is there anything for me to use that will raise libido while on it?
I plan to take my test intake up to 225 - 250 mg / week of test c. I was considering (after reading about it) 40mg Anavar daily in conjunction with a deficit and a slight bump to TRT.

Should I have anything on hand for side effects? I have TUDCA & NAC for liver.


Where did you read that Var will crush your libido? It won’t! Maybe if you weren’t on exogenous test. The only issues you may have is hair loss and also you’ll see your lipid profiles crash! If the doc is smart, they’ll figure it out. Your SHBG will crash, and free test will spike in my experience. The biggest issue is your HDL will crash, while your LDL will climb. That said, they’ll simply think it’s an anomaly, and wait for the next test in 6 more weeks. You’ll be off of it by then.
 

Troharris

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Where did you read that Var will crush your libido? It won’t! Maybe if you weren’t on exogenous test. The only issues you may have is hair loss and also you’ll see your lipid profiles crash! If the doc is smart, they’ll figure it out. Your SHBG will crash, and free test will spike in my experience. The biggest issue is your HDL will crash, while your LDL will climb. That said, they’ll simply think it’s an anomaly, and wait for the next test in 6 more weeks. You’ll be off of it by then.

Yeah I have read about the lipid crash. Hopefully some daily LISS, Citrus Bergamot, and avoiding processed crap, fast food, or drinking will negate the worst of it.

I didn't think hair loss would be likely (or abundant if it occurs) on var from what I have read throughout other forums.

And I will probably just tell the doc I am going to travel or some other lie to reschedule my appointment. Would suck if kicked of TRT, but I legit have low test, so finding another doc shouldn't be a total PITA.
 

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Yeah I have read about the lipid crash. Hopefully some daily LISS, Citrus Bergamot, and avoiding processed crap, fast food, or drinking will negate the worst of it.

I didn't think hair loss would be likely (or abundant if it occurs) on var from what I have read throughout other forums.

And I will probably just tell the doc I am going to travel or some other lie to reschedule my appointment. Would suck if kicked of TRT, but I legit have low test, so finding another doc shouldn't be a total PITA.

It won’t. Your HDL will be crushed no matter what you do. I’ve tried it all. It’s short term, so no need to worry.

I’ve tried Tren, test, Primo, Mast. The only thing that makes my hair thin is Var. Now I have pharma Var. So it’s legit. Idk what forums you’re on, but most know Var can affect your hair. It’s a DHT derivative and any DHT derivative can cause it. If you’re susceptible to it. I literally have nobody in my family with hair loss, for 3 generations back on both sides. But it still thins me out while on it.

As for your doc, they won’t kick you off.
 

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That kind of surprises me that your trainer would tell you that but hey to each their own. I personally would recommend that but if you were going to, the shit is no joke. A little goes a long way. This is like the 3rd time I've used it over the years and I've been on enenthate at 200mgs a week for about a month and a half. The benefits are amazing but in all reality their are other much safer compounds you could use. Var is my favorite oral so I think your on the right track with that. I personally never had any libido issues any of the times I used it. It's one of the most mild orals on your organs so I don't think You really need the tuduca for it but if you got it I would. If your debating on tren and var those are on the opposite sides of the spectrum man, one is one of the safest the other is one of the most toxic! To me that's not even something I would need to put much thought into. It's your body and your goals so only you can make that decision but definitely become as informed as you can to make the most educated decision possible and whatever you choose just take full advantage of them so your not taxing your body and wasting the full benefits. These are performance enhancing compounds so if your not working harder then normal and exploting those enhancements in every way possible your taxing your body for no reason. Definitely keep us posted on what you decide to do and let us know if you need any help, that's one of the best things about this community. It's full of knowledge, understanding, and good people that wanna help you reach your goals the safest and most efficient way possible.
 

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Switch trainers. This recently happened to a female friend of mine as well, her subpar trainer suggested her to get on Primo and Mast. Reason they do this is because they're a dogshit trainer with no clue how to program for someone or coach them but they know that if they put you on a gear cycle then you will make incredible progress whether their methods suck or not. Then, you'll attribute the gains to their programing and coaching methods when really it was the gear enhancing the shitty training to make you get above-average progress out of it. Then you come back to them and pay them more, and they use your progress photos/videos for their social media marketing so others fall into the trap of being their client because they produced a good physique or strong lifter when again it is just the drugs doing 90% of the work and their methods are bullshit.

Also LOL @ suggesting Tren for the first cycle. Dude didn't even start by suggesting something like EQ or Deca or a mild Oral. Such a worthless scumbag.
 
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