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Jtdaniels123

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Well guys short story. I abused meth for over a decade. Sober these days and have been for a couple of years. In that time I’ve BnC mainly test with a cycle of nandrolone recently. Anyways I got an EKG done and apparently I have an extra layer around my heart and the EKG came back abnormal. Going for more tests in a couple of weeks. Also my BP was slightly elevated.

At the moment I’m running colonials ultimate bulk blend.(prop,Adrol and dbol). Guess I’ll go to an office endocrinologist and see what my options are. Any feedback?
 
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damocles13

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There is no such thing as an “extra layer” around your heart. You have an epicardium, myocArdium, and endocardium. That’s it. Your may have a low ejection fraction or dilated ventricles from the meth abuse but more important than anything is to take a note pad with you next time and get a reasonable understanding of what they’re telling you because it sounds like they did not communicate well to you or that you were nervous and misheard them
 
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system

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@damocles13 more great advice.
Unless I’m reading the tone of your posts wrong it’s good to see people actually want to help. Not common on the interwebs
 
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damocles13

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@empireannie not at all. I’m a healthcare professional and so many people don’t understand what’s going on with their body at all. It’s a communication issue. You shouldn’t leave your healthcare provider until you’re satisfied that you have at least a tenuous grasp on what’s going on with you.
 
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JDLift

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Did you take the clot shot? Ton of people having heart issues after that shit.
 
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Gbunk

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Maybe you mean your left ventricle has hypertrophy from exercise/gear? Like @damocles13 mentioned, bring a notepad or ask for appointment notes or information. A left ventricular enlargement can cause a prolonged QRS complex or something like that.
 
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Jtdaniels123

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damocles13 said:
There is no such thing as an “extra layer” around your heart. You have an epicardium, myocArdium, and endocardium. That’s it. Your may have a low ejection fraction or dilated ventricles from the meth abuse but more important than anything is to take a note pad with you next time and get a reasonable understanding of what they’re telling you because it sounds like they did not communicate well to you or that you were nervous and misheard them
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Your 100% right. I think my mind was thinking “should I tell him I’m on gear or not”? When I go back for more tests on the 25th I will take notes.
 
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JDLift

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@Jtdaniels123

Rip. Pour some pre out for the (soon-to-be) dead homie y’all.

There’s people out there taking all manner of cocktails trying to help their heart recover from whatever the god damn fuck the jab has been doing to it, and so far I don’t see anyone in athletics finding relief/help. Try to get your diet nice a sparkly clean, avoid being deficient in any vitamins or micronutrients and hope for the best. Avoid 5G towers.
 
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damocles13

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I have zero proof of anything of course but my cardio went to absolute shit after the jab. It’s only been in the last month or two I feel like I can actually do the things I’m used to
 
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09370z

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@damocles13 Since you seem to know a decent amount about this do you mind if I ask a question?

I got an echo done the other day of my heart, found out I have a low ejection fraction. It was 46%. They said normal is 50-75%. The hospital said it was likely due to my bad sleep apnea that I have had for about 6-10 years and ignored, and my highish blood pressure over the last few years.

Is it likely addressing my sleep apnea and high blood pressure can get my EF back into range? I’m otherwise very healthy. No drinking/smoking. Eat very clean, daily fasted cardio where I get my HR to about 120 and hold for 20 mins, and I always do cardio later in the day after workout where I get my HR between 145-160 and hold it for 25-30 minutes.
 
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system

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@09370z
Did you present this question to your Dr? If not, why not? If so, what was their response?

Beyond that, I would say getting your sleep apnea under control pronto would be a great place to start.

My father had sever sleep apnea for years and I believe that led to a cascade of detrimental conditions.
 
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09370z

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@empireannie the hospital where I got the echo done recommended a cardiologist that I seen Thursday.

I will try to make a long story short, but first they had a nurse practitioner come in, said she believed it is likely my sleep apnea and high blood pressure. She wanted me to get a sleep study ASAP and after we discussed BP meds we agreed to have me start valsartan. Then she had to get the cardiologist to sign off on it.

He wasn’t concerned about my high BP and told me to take a blood thinner that they gave me samples for, and retest in 3 months. He also told me weight lifting can “make your heart weak”

I knew that cardiologist was not good based on reviews prior to my appointment, but I went for the info. I already had a separate appointment set up for end of this month (soonest they had) for a much better national recognized cardiologist department.
 
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damocles13

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@09370z potentially yes. More often than not they’ll send you for another sleep study and potentially start you on a low dose beta blocker which will initially lower your EF even more for a short period, but after 6 months of treatment patients on beta blocker therapy tend to see a decent rise in their EF relative to where they started. Years ago we would’ve NEVER prescribed Beta blockers to patients with any sort of hypokinesis or systolic dysfunction. Weird how things change.

Follow up with your cardiologist of course but don’t be surprised if they don’t do much considering your EF is just slightly out of range. You’ll likely get the standard “cpap, lose weight” speech and see him/her again in 6 months.
 
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09370z

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@damocles13 Thank you for the input! Initially the Nurse Practitioner said I might not be a good canidate for a beta blocker because my resting HR is low (mid 50s) and when sleeping it drops down to the mid 40s.

But if a Beta Blocker will help raise my EF then maybe I would be willing to try it. Is there a reason it will lower my EF initially? I know below 40% is considered “heart failure” so I’m trying to raise it as much as I can as fast as I can.

Edit: Also, would something like Telmisartan or Valsartan be able to raise ejection fraction? Or is that something only a beta blocker can do. Thanks again for the information, I really appreicate it.
 
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