What am I doing wrong?

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@chimpanzee19
4K calories of clean food is a lot…
I mean pros like classic physique Olympia’s, Chris for example only ate 5k calories at his peak…

 

[Jay]

Here’s my two cents.

Yeah food and lifting is the cookie cutter bro science shortcut answer everyone’s going to give you. But it’s pretty hard to fuck up not eating at least 3k calories a day and lifting to break a swet. So fuck those responses.

If your not a moron than Here’s prolly why your not making gains:

Expectations of gaining mass one would only see in the freak hyper responders. Because that’s what the society and influencers of bodybuilding has dubbed as “normal” but If we all could put on 10lbs a cycle there would be a million mr o competitors. don’t expect shit from steroids.

I’ve seen people put on mass but their insertions and muscle bellies are so bad you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference

Definition if your round and smooth forget about ever expecting a noticeable difference. You can’t see what’s covered

Don’t pay attention to the scale to measure progress and gains. The scale is bullshit and a deterrent. Focus on your physique and have faith in the small gains. People who are about the numbers are all body dysmporphic and need an electronic stepping stool to tell them undependable when their making progress

The two biochemicals that literally dictate muscle growth, Myostatin and follistatin, are so overlooked in the world of aas it’s a shame. If your bodies putting out myostatin your body is telling itself to not grow. If your bodies producing follistatin it’s saying grow. Any variable some day to days going to dictate where you tip on this and sometimes your body just naturally wants to produce myostatin out of conceivable control. So
If you don’t care about the lack of research and study of long term effect. I’d recommended a follistatin agonist like yk11. You could be the biggest hyporesponder and still benefit from being in a constant state of growth.

 

[chimpanzee19]

@nswole1 Yeah, I don’t think 4K cals clean is happening here at all, which is why I recommended PUFA’s. At least then if he added them in he’d see a good amount of growth. You can max out steroids, but that’s not happening for awhile and he’d know if that was it. Definitely not time to look into insulin or anything else yet and more steroids is going to do absolutely nothing in this scenario until the diet is corrected. Everyone can post on the internet they’re eating “X” amount of cals, but if you aren’t gaining weight it’s highly unlikely. Eat a rice krispy treat before a workout, add PUFA’s, get huge.

 

[jaliscobred]

@nswole1 unless you have the lab report that says other wise don’t blame a source. Especially one of the top sources.

 

[Forthewin1123]

There has to be something very wrong here… you can take aas and do nothing and gain weight…water and.a little muscle… your not telling g us something… there’s no way.ypu earing as much as you say you are.and taking 500mg or more and not growing…
I grew about 8 solid pounds on rad 140… I grew a solid 12 pounds of muscle on 500mgs and that was a semi clean semi shit diet but I worked hard 6 days a week…
You need to be doing atleast 5 days… if.ypu taking drugs and lifting less then that in my opinion it’s a waste of drugs and side effects

 

[Forthewin1123]

Also @nswole1 every one sees you and @Lord everyday multiple times a day some time promote Azteca… and your getting vials and and credits for it… go.for.it… but now you a paid schill and your comments habe no weight when.it comes to you guys talking about quality of a labs products. This isn’t an attack I’m just saying what hasn’t been said but has been said. You guys are now labeled Azteca schilling salesmen…almost like.reps…since your being compensated… understand when you cross that line your opinion is less valuable. Regardless do you bro… I’m ot mad … and im.glad your doing well.and gaining…

 

[effswithtren]

I mean, Azteca makes good stuff. Every source here makes good stuff as far as I know. If they don’t they shouldn’t be here… I really doubt the problem is gear. If that makes me shilly or whatever then oh well. In general I think we place far too much emphasis on gear, and far less on training and diet.

All the gear does is take the governors off our bodies a little bit. If we aren’t pushing our bodies for that additional growth via added growth stimulus and food, the gear is doing practically nothing. It’s like taking the governor off a car but only driving 35 anyway.

 

[system]

@jaliscobred
Didn’t blame it. Gave a similar experience. Very possible.

 

[system]

@Forthewin1123
I @ Azteca in post that he should have been tagged in…

Other then that I’ve gained 6 pounds on his test and EQ in 5 weeks… ALSO I had bloods done for the 2nd time on his gear. First one came back semi high, since I just started it…

I’m giving credit where it’s due, because 2 positive bloods and anecdotal review… gains = my support for him

I’ve EVEN tagged @Colonial-Labs in a few post he wasn’t tagged in… @Synergy-Forge once also… I’m not dick riding Azteca… he’s just the only source with good bloods and a positive experience that I have on this site.

 

[system]

@Forthewin1123
You can’t even deny, colonial has bad pip to… I injected 500mg in my glute (yes I know that’s a lot in his defense) and I couldn’t walk without 1000mg of ibuprofen for 2 days…

 

[effswithtren]

@nswole1 Do they though? I’ve used probably half of Colonial’s product line by now, including high concentrate versions of half their stuff. Their test 250 and 500 is perfectly fine. The first few shots of 500 were a little tender, but now I have zero pip to speak of. Dunno, I think PIP is a pretty individual experience.

 

[system]

@effswithtren

I’ll give you that. But I’ve used 4 sources. 2 here , 2 local.
My first EVER shot was HORRIFIC. After that was fine, UNTIL I tried colonial, HORRIBLE. The whole way through, which wasn’t but a few weeks.

Then local source, smoothest test I’ve ever injected… even at high mg/concentration… now Azteca, it’s not as smooth as the local source, but it’s half the price and pretty damn good…

First shot and colonial is the only PIP I’ve ever had…

I wasn’t really dissing Colonial… until he asked if it was junk… for me, the gear I received, lowered my levels and made me lose weight… I even messaged colonial asking if it could have been injectable Winstrol or smg lmao…

 

[Forthewin1123]

@nswole1 I’ve only used his injectable adrol and dbol… they were great… one had guaiacol… probably adrol but I had no issues… I also never really get pip unless I habe a subq leak… … and I’ve done 3.5ml glute injections for 5 months…

 

[Synergy Forge]

@nswole1 > @Synergy-Forge once also

Wait, what? You summoned me and I came. What can I do for you? I’m not sure that I want to be in this conversation but at the same time, I don’t like what you are suggesting either, so I find it necessary to probe and find out what the problem is. Can you enlighten me please? You don’t like my gear? That is ok, you can’t be everything to everyone, and I’m not offended at that; however if you are insinuating that I don’t know how to brew properly or lack knowledge, then perhaps you should email me for some information that you might consider before you continue. If I’m incorrect, then I apologize, but it doesn’t have good optics from where I sit.

 

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@synergy-forge

I’ve never tried your gear, I wasn’t insinuating you didn’t know how to brew or etc… I was only saying that I @ you in a review where they did not @ you… that’s all. As far as I know, you brew amazingly, your gear is amazing with 0 pip!! Roll on.

 

[system]

@Forthewin1123

Okay well his test e left me crippled lol.

 

[MrMetal]

@nswole1 You sound fucking retarded

 

[Synergy Forge]

@shiidontknow said in /404:

I guess what I’m wondering is if anyone has ever had this issue and what they did to correct it. Also tips would be appreciated. Thanks.

I don’t normally get into these types of questions but this is one that I get all the time, and since I was summoned here, I figured I’d offer my .02.

Typically what I see for guys that are not gaining is that they are training wrong for their body type. There are three types of bodies for humans, and from there you might have traits that blend into the next body type. Those types are Ectomorph, endomorph, and Mesomorph:

The biggest problem that guys have is that they train the way their buddy trains or their partner, but what happens is that if you’re an ectomorph (and it sounds like you are) and your partner is a mesomorph, then one of you is not going to see any growth whatsoever while the other excels. You don’t eat the same, you don’t train the same, you don’t grow the same. There is no one size fits all and you can’t pick up a Men’s Journal and mimic a workout in there if you’re an ectomorph and expect to be successful. Most of those guys are mesomorphs, they get on there and tell you how natty they are and it’s what they eat that makes them successful. Don’t buy into that kind of thing.

The best thing you can do it identify what type you are, research what it will take to make you successful and reach your goals. Not only in the gym, but in the kitchen as well. If you don’t have specific, written, obtainable goals that you work towards, then you are just drifting. I’m an endomorph, so I just smell food and gain weight, but I know exactly what I need to eat and the workouts that benefit me the most. If you’re an ecto, then you should do light cardio only (as an example) whereas I have to do daily cardio to stay at my bf percentage.

I hope it helps, like others have said, it’s not all about the gear. The best tool you have is between your ears and so few of us excercise it enough. Best of luck sir.

Thank you,
Syn

 

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@MrMetal
Is that right? What exactly did I say that was retarded. Gave my experience, with Colonial’s cheap gear. Period.

 

[Synergy Forge]

@nswole1 Oh, my apologies then. I misunderstood. Sorry. You are right, I need to do a better job of responding when summoned. I get all the notifications, but they are to an email address I don’t really use much.