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What basic gear is needed for homebrew other than filters and beakers?

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Been toying with the idea lately of brewing for myself, what lab gear would I need to do this?
am I allowed to ask where most of you guys like to get your raws?
 
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You could just use 250ml pyrex beaker, 8oz canning jars with lids, syringe filters .45um and .22um filters,1 filter for every 10-20ml of oil, 20ml syringes, 1 or 3cc syringes, 20g x 1.5" needles candle warmer, pressure cooker or large pot with tight lid, Distilled water 1 gallon, 90% isopropyl alcohol a liter, baking pan, tin foil, table cleaned with bleach solution, nitrile gloves, N95 mask to keep from breathing any contamination into your oil, long sleeve polyester jacket that doesn’t shed fibers to make sure you don’t have anything flake off your skin on your arms or hairs into the oil, hair net if you have hair.

Raws- China- PPL or DO.

Oils you can buy sterile GSO, off the shelf MCT, Benzyl Benzoate, Benzyl Alcohol all can be bought on ebay, or medlabsupply, texlabsupply, or alphapharma. Typically bottle sizes are 50-100ml of BB, 10-20ml of BA.

You can buy sterilized vials that will need 30g vent needles to fill. Or you can buy glass vials that need to be cleaned and sterilized, rubber stoppers, caps, crimping tool that is the right size for the caps. Tweezers used for removing the rubber stoppers after they soak in alcohol so you don’t touch them with your hands.

I could go into a bunch more details, more options for filters with a vacuum attached that can make the job a lot easier. Just depends on how much you want to spend setting up for this. Take a look at medlabsupply to get an idea of possible filtration beyond just syringe filters which are slow and tedious, but get the job done.
 
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Dexter" pid='85418' dateline='1585021002:
You could just use 250ml pyrex beaker, 8oz canning jars with lids, syringe filters .45um and .22um filters,1 filter for every 10-20ml of oil, 20ml syringes, 1 or 3cc syringes, 20g x 1.5" needles candle warmer, pressure cooker or large pot with tight lid, Distilled water 1 gallon, 90% isopropyl alcohol a liter, baking pan, tin foil, table cleaned with bleach solution, nitrile gloves, N95 mask to keep from breathing any contamination into your oil, long sleeve polyester jacket that doesn’t shed fibers to make sure you don’t have anything flake off your skin on your arms or hairs into the oil, hair net if you have hair.

Raws- China- PPL or DO.

Oils you can buy sterile GSO, off the shelf MCT, Benzyl Benzoate, Benzyl Alcohol all can be bought on ebay, or medlabsupply, texlabsupply, or alphapharma. Typically bottle sizes are 50-100ml of BB, 10-20ml of BA.

You can buy sterilized vials that will need 30g vent needles to fill. Or you can buy glass vials that need to be cleaned and sterilized, rubber stoppers, caps, crimping tool that is the right size for the caps. Tweezers used for removing the rubber stoppers after they soak in alcohol so you don’t touch them with your hands.

I could go into a bunch more details, more options for filters with a vacuum attached that can make the job a lot easier. Just depends on how much you want to spend setting up for this. Take a look at medlabsupply to get an idea of possible filtration beyond just syringe filters which are slow and tedious, but get the job done.
Hey man, for oil could I use something like corn oil, olive oil or canola oil? Not much more that I can get in my country without paying an extreme premium
 
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Hey man, for oil could I use something like corn oil, olive oil or canola oil? Not much more that I can get in my country without paying an extreme premium
If you can get extra light refined olive oil I think you’ll be very happy. The monounsaturated oil has a longer shelf life. The less green and clear it is the better, look for something with a longer outdate.

You can use other oils like corn, canola, soybean…these are all refined oils, but not my first choice just because I think they’re shitty low quality oils.

Don’t use extra virgin oils as too much stuff is left in them and they will go rancid, and because they haven’t been put through a more extensive refining you don’t want to take any chances.

Some people like safflower oil if you have that available.
 
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You could just use 250ml pyrex beaker, 8oz canning jars with lids, syringe filters .45um and .22um filters,1 filter for every 10-20ml of oil, 20ml syringes, 1 or 3cc syringes, 20g x 1.5" needles candle warmer, pressure cooker or large pot with tight lid, Distilled water 1 gallon, 90% isopropyl alcohol a liter, baking pan, tin foil, table cleaned with bleach solution, nitrile gloves, N95 mask to keep from breathing any contamination into your oil, long sleeve polyester jacket that doesn’t shed fibers to make sure you don’t have anything flake off your skin on your arms or hairs into the oil, hair net if you have hair.

Raws- China- PPL or DO.

Oils you can buy sterile GSO, off the shelf MCT, Benzyl Benzoate, Benzyl Alcohol all can be bought on ebay, or medlabsupply, texlabsupply, or alphapharma. Typically bottle sizes are 50-100ml of BB, 10-20ml of BA.

You can buy sterilized vials that will need 30g vent needles to fill. Or you can buy glass vials that need to be cleaned and sterilized, rubber stoppers, caps, crimping tool that is the right size for the caps. Tweezers used for removing the rubber stoppers after they soak in alcohol so you don’t touch them with your hands.

I could go into a bunch more details, more options for filters with a vacuum attached that can make the job a lot easier. Just depends on how much you want to spend setting up for this. Take a look at medlabsupply to get an idea of possible filtration beyond just syringe filters which are slow and tedious, but get the job done.
Hey Dex I’d love to hear your preferred glassware sterilization methods, or really your homebrew methods in general. I’ve been doing vials in alcohol baths followed by distilled water rinses, then covered in sterile aluminum foil and baked in the oven for about 2 hours at 400F.
 
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Hey Dex I’d love to hear your preferred glassware sterilization methods, or really your homebrew methods in general. I’ve been doing vials in alcohol baths followed by distilled water rinses, then covered in sterile aluminum foil and baked in the oven for about 2 hours at 400F.
You have a good method.

I wash all my glassware with soap and water, then pressure cook for about 1 hour with distilled water, I also do canning jar lids in the pressure cooker, but never in the oven as the rubber seals melt and burn.

Preheat oven to 350-400F and line a baking pan with tin foil. Put all my glassware so the openings are facing down and not exposed to air. Bake for 45 minutes. Take out of oven and you now have your tray ready to start filling with oils. Just leave all the glassware upside down so the openings aren’t exposed to any air until you need them.

Extra sheets of tin foil for lids are put in the baking pan as well when you need them to cover beakers.

Rubber stoppers are soaked in bowl with 90% alcohol for 1 hour and removed with sterilized tweezers and placed on sterilized tin foil that was in cooled off baking pan, allowed to air dry then fold up in the tin foil until you’re ready to cap your vials
 
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If you can get extra light refined olive oil I think you’ll be very happy. The monounsaturated oil has a longer shelf life. The less green and clear it is the better, look for something with a longer outdate.

You can use other oils like corn, canola, soybean…these are all refined oils, but not my first choice just because I think they’re shitty low quality oils.

Don’t use extra virgin oils as too much stuff is left in them and they will go rancid, and because they haven’t been put through a more extensive refining you don’t want to take any chances.

Some people like safflower oil if you have that available.
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Thanks man, unfortunatly safflower oil I’ve never seen here.

And another question, if I buy sterile vials then I only need to desinfect the equipment I will use for the preparation? or do you desinfect the vials anyway?
 
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Hey Dex I’d love to hear your preferred glassware sterilization methods, or really your homebrew methods in general. I’ve been doing vials in alcohol baths followed by distilled water rinses, then covered in sterile aluminum foil and baked in the oven for about 2 hours at 400F.
You have a good method.

I wash all my glassware with soap and water, then pressure cook for about 1 hour with distilled water, I also do canning jar lids in the pressure cooker, but never in the oven as the rubber seals melt and burn.

Preheat oven to 350-400F and line a baking pan with tin foil. Put all my glassware so the openings are facing down and not exposed to air. Bake for 45 minutes. Take out of oven and you now have your tray ready to start filling with oils. Just leave all the glassware upside down so the openings aren’t exposed to any air until you need them.

Extra sheets of tin foil for lids are put in the baking pan as well when you need them to cover beakers.

Rubber stoppers are soaked in bowl with 90% alcohol for 1 hour and removed with sterilized tweezers and placed on sterilized tin foil that was in cooled off baking pan, allowed to air dry then fold up in the tin foil until you’re ready to cap your vials
What’s your method of dispensing oil into vials? Used a dispensing pump for a while but I became frustrated with cleaning it and felt my instant pot’s sanitize setting wasn’t enough, switched to a serological pipettor but boy does Castor Oil flow slow.
 
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Hey Dex I’d love to hear your preferred glassware sterilization methods, or really your homebrew methods in general. I’ve been doing vials in alcohol baths followed by distilled water rinses, then covered in sterile aluminum foil and baked in the oven for about 2 hours at 400F.
You have a good method.

I wash all my glassware with soap and water, then pressure cook for about 1 hour with distilled water, I also do canning jar lids in the pressure cooker, but never in the oven as the rubber seals melt and burn.

Preheat oven to 350-400F and line a baking pan with tin foil. Put all my glassware so the openings are facing down and not exposed to air. Bake for 45 minutes. Take out of oven and you now have your tray ready to start filling with oils. Just leave all the glassware upside down so the openings aren’t exposed to any air until you need them.

Extra sheets of tin foil for lids are put in the baking pan as well when you need them to cover beakers.

Rubber stoppers are soaked in bowl with 90% alcohol for 1 hour and removed with sterilized tweezers and placed on sterilized tin foil that was in cooled off baking pan, allowed to air dry then fold up in the tin foil until you’re ready to cap your vials
Dexter do you know of any decent sources for sterilized complete vials? I have made two orders and both times I find that the vials are corking before they are even halfway finished (short esters and using 20-21g to draw). Gets annoying having to refilter gear that I am about to pin due to a piece of rubber.
 
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Presterilized vials can have harder rubber stoppers that tend not to hold up to bigger needles. I don’t really like using them.

I use vials I have to sterilize myself. These are what I have used, very nice quality.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0799BL7MV/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A35GJRI39PFRJO&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JGVBSVS/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_9?smid=A2DQX36AME1WW3&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07574YVJD/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=A1NWVDUVOA18PJ&psc=1

I bought a used 20mm crimping tool off ebay, because cheap crimpers are shit, the German made crimpers are the Cadillac, but new they’re pricey.

I prefer washing and sterilizing my own vials, because I’ve found many of these so called sterile vials had what looked like floaters in my oil when I finish, I never get that when I clean and sterilize and cap my own vials.
 
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