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So you’ve run orals for nearly 5 out of ten months and with no test base. To be blunt, what’s wrong with you is that you probably shouldn’t be taking steroids. I’m not gatekeeping, but have you done any research at all before jumping into this?
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There is the problem. Oral only cycles are a no go bro
Testosterone is only ran with cycles to feel better and help keep the body running with the hormone that performs normal functions. It in no way would diminish the effects of another compound, especially the powerful ones I’ve tried.
Lol see @“Sparker” ‘s post above dude. Maybe gear isn’t for you. You asked what’s wrong with you and the consensus of some solid contributors to the board is the same shock that you’re running these without test.
I’ve have done my research, so I am going to assume you have as well and aren’t just jumping on the bandwagon of having testosterone included in every cycle.
As stated above, people recommend including it in order to make sure that the body is getting done what testosterone accomplishes inducing positive emotions during cycle. Though I had obvious symptoms, I have never felt an emotional shift, thereby voiding that point. Any other bodily functions that testosterone provides are not vital to have during such sort periods and in no way reduce one’s health, unless either of you can provide other reasons to run it?
Furthermore, the introduction of testosterone along with another steroid would guarantee greater HPTA inhibition, if not shutdown, therefore for someone who interests having the greatest chance at hormonal recovery, not including it is safer, and there is no refuting that.
This is gonna be my last response. I’m not sure how to get through to you.
Orals are mostly derivatives of testosterone. Testosterone is the benchmark for androgenic and anabolic effects by which all other roids are rated. You called it a “weak compound” yet seem to be using it in your oral cycles pretty frequently given that fact.
Being testosterone derivatives, your body is thinking that it’s getting exogenous testosterone and will stop producing actual testosterone of its own accord. Testosterone and the derivatives work on the androgen receptors but it’s the makeup of the molecular chain that determines how the cells “read” the different steroids which is why some are “wet” or “dry” or raise RBC, or what have you.
Adding actual testosterone, does not “guarantee further HPTA inhibition.” As a matter of fact, nothing in this game is a guarantee. I could take the same Drol out of your gear box and see completely different bloods and effects. Orals are shuttling you down equally.
You think people only add testosterone to feel good on cycle? There are many things that testerone does that a testosterone derivative can’t and you’re completely ignoring those.
You can call me a dick or whatever, but I still don’t think you’ve done your research or at least done it properly. IMO the general nature of this board is that getting HIGHLY educated in the subject is pretty much a requirement. If someone came in here with “Help I didn’t buy AI with my cycle!” They’d be met with the same tough love, I’m sure.
You do you man. But if you want to see results and can stop being afraid of a “hormonal recovery,” it would be my suggestion and a suggestion of many, to always use a test base. Even @“10gramsuvtrenEOD” said he did oral only “when he was younger and not knowing shit,” implying he now knows better.
If the recovery part is a major concern, and it definitely can be (not bashing that at all), then again, maybe gear isn’t right for you. There are risks you take when on gear like possible Gyno, prolactin, high cholesterol, etc, etc and you gotta weigh those out.
