When did so many people start using AAS?!

[Primobro]

Recently I’ve had to go train at another location of my gym and I went yesterday during a peek time and was completely blown away by the number of AAS users I saw. Literally if I had to guess, 40% of the guys and girls training looked juiced and my gym is just a standard fitness center, certainly no Golds Gym or Metroflex. I guess I’ve been juicing for a long time but feel it’s much more widespread than it used to be. Was it Zyzz? Instagram? Shit I’m totally confused as to where all of this came from. I live in a very materialistic and image driven area but I guess I never expected to see so many people indulging in the saucery. Any ideas as to what brought all this about?

 

[eforman]

My gym is literally 80% users. Even quite a few of the females. Honestly, it’s so common now. Even some guys that look natural are blasting 2g a week around here…its sad.

 

[Scuba_Greaves]

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My gym is literally 80% users. Even quite a few of the females. Honestly, it’s so common now. Even some guys that look natural are blasting 2g a week around here…its sad.

If I still looked natty at 2g/week I would be pretty depressed lol

but, yeah dude, it’s crazy how many people use AAS! When I first started using 2.5 years ago, I didn’t know anybody else who used, but now it seems like everybody and their mom is on something.

 

[eforman]

I wish I were exaggerating. One of the guys has been blasting test tren mast and adrol for the better part of 2 years. The only change in his physique has been his gyno.

But trust him he has a “direct line to a certain ifbb pros supplier”

 

[Primobro]

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I wish I were exaggerating. One of the guys has been blasting test tren mast and adrol for the better part of 2 years. The only change in his physique has been his gyno.

But trust him he has a “direct line to a certain ifbb pros supplier”

Lol I love guys like that… they’re juiced to the gills and have “the best connect around” while paying $100 for a bottle of test and look natty with gyno and a red swollen face

 

[Yamsan]

The internet. Its amazing to me how many guys are on AAS a month after they start lifting. They bulk, then lose it all and blame it on the gear.

 

[DNPstoney]

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Recently I’ve had to go train at another location of my gym and I went yesterday during a peek time and was completely blown away by the number of AAS users I saw. Literally if I had to guess, 40% of the guys and girls training looked juiced and my gym is just a standard fitness center, certainly no Golds Gym or Metroflex. I guess I’ve been juicing for a long time but feel it’s much more widespread than it used to be. Was it Zyzz? Instagram? Shit I’m totally confused as to where all of this came from. I live in a very materialistic and image driven area but I guess I never expected to see so many people indulging in the saucery. Any ideas as to what brought all this about?

The internet. Before, if you wanted to juice, you had to make a connection at your gym with someone else who juiced to try to get a hookup. This was a barrier to entry, as some people were new to lifting, didn’t make friends easy, and the veteran would normally only help guys who looked like they had lifted for a while. Add to the fact that it was illegal, a taboo topic, and expensive, and it made it very hard to get.

Now, it is much cheaper and easier. You just submit an order to a source online, pay in crypto, and the pack is at your door in under a week so you can start pinning. Sources aren’t asking for photos of people’s physiques or diet/lifting history; if they have money, they don’t care.

I would guess that a lot of these people were paying hundreds of dollars a month for shitty GNC-like supplements that did almost nothing. So now that it is so easy to buy and get info, they switch to gear as they get more results and it is about the same price or cheaper.

 

[yelruP]

Damn my gym has like 1-2 other big dudes. Most people at my gym are skinny/fat or old.

 

[Scuba_Greaves]

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Recently I’ve had to go train at another location of my gym and I went yesterday during a peek time and was completely blown away by the number of AAS users I saw. Literally if I had to guess, 40% of the guys and girls training looked juiced and my gym is just a standard fitness center, certainly no Golds Gym or Metroflex. I guess I’ve been juicing for a long time but feel it’s much more widespread than it used to be. Was it Zyzz? Instagram? Shit I’m totally confused as to where all of this came from. I live in a very materialistic and image driven area but I guess I never expected to see so many people indulging in the saucery. Any ideas as to what brought all this about?

The internet. Before, if you wanted to juice, you had to make a connection at your gym with someone else who juiced to try to get a hookup. This was a barrier to entry, as some people were new to lifting, didn’t make friends easy, and the veteran would normally only help guys who looked like they had lifted for a while. Add to the fact that it was illegal, a taboo topic, and expensive, and it made it very hard to get.

Now, it is much cheaper and easier. You just submit an order to a source online, pay in crypto, and the pack is at your door in under a week so you can start pinning. Sources aren’t asking for photos of people’s physiques or diet/lifting history; if they have money, they don’t care.

I would guess that a lot of these people were paying hundreds of dollars a month for shitty GNC-like supplements that did almost nothing. So now that it is so easy to buy and get info, they switch to gear as they get more results and it is about the same price or cheaper.

This about covers it!

well said bud

 

[myron_gaines]

The whole fitness community is to blame "Bostin Loyd and all these fake natty call out guys made it out to be “if you take gear youll look like this” and people are gullible enough to believe that.

 

[MentalPariah]

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The whole fitness community is to blame "Bostin Loyd and all these fake natty call out guys made it out to be “if you take gear youll look like this” and people are gullible enough to believe that.

More true words never have been spoken than what has been laid down here.

 

[Heavyweightmover]

It can be seen as a good and bad thing. The more users there are, the more normalized steroids become. The stigma surrounding steroid becomes less and less and more people become aware of the benefits and maybe we can reach decriminalizing it. On the other hand… more dyel with unstable mentalities will be blasting 1g tren and reminding everyone why gear can be dangerous. More people not cycling off when they’re blood pressure, lipids, liver, heart start to show problems and end up on the news with gear to blame. There’s a fine line between minding your business and educating a fellow swole bro. Hopefully the new generations keeps gains and mental/health stability as equal goals.

 

[Tony_Parks]

I started training in the late 70s-early 80s, and did my first PL meet in 1985. I’ve thus observed usage patterns for over 30 years. In the 1980s, they were available, but nothing like now. Needles weren’t widely available, and you didn’t see as many high-school aged kids using the as now. Average gym rats would do d-bol only cycles. D-bol was fairly available if you knew someone who knew someone, but nothing like now. Paradoxically, wider availability came after the crackdown in the late 1980s after the Ben Johnson thing, and steroids were made controlled substances. There were lots of articles in the media about how terrible they were, how law enforcement was serious about stopping them, etc. Dan Duchaine got arrested around this time, and while in jail, a drug dealer told him that the crackdown was going to lead to dealers of recreational drugs moving in and the supply would increase. That is what happened, and underground labs started springing up. Injectables became much more common, and the selection generally increased. Once the internet came along, pretty much anything you’d want was available from multiple sources. The crackdown thus led to wider availability and more kids using them, the exact opposite of what was intended.

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Recently I’ve had to go train at another location of my gym and I went yesterday during a peek time and was completely blown away by the number of AAS users I saw. Literally if I had to guess, 40% of the guys and girls training looked juiced and my gym is just a standard fitness center, certainly no Golds Gym or Metroflex. I guess I’ve been juicing for a long time but feel it’s much more widespread than it used to be. Was it Zyzz? Instagram? Shit I’m totally confused as to where all of this came from. I live in a very materialistic and image driven area but I guess I never expected to see so many people indulging in the saucery. Any ideas as to what brought all this about?

The internet. Before, if you wanted to juice, you had to make a connection at your gym with someone else who juiced to try to get a hookup. This was a barrier to entry, as some people were new to lifting, didn’t make friends easy, and the veteran would normally only help guys who looked like they had lifted for a while. Add to the fact that it was illegal, a taboo topic, and expensive, and it made it very hard to get.

Now, it is much cheaper and easier. You just submit an order to a source online, pay in crypto, and the pack is at your door in under a week so you can start pinning. Sources aren’t asking for photos of people’s physiques or diet/lifting history; if they have money, they don’t care.

I would guess that a lot of these people were paying hundreds of dollars a month for shitty GNC-like supplements that did almost nothing. So now that it is so easy to buy and get info, they switch to gear as they get more results and it is about the same price or cheaper.

The internet definitely played a big role. But I noticed after the late 1980s crackdown that the people selling didn’t care whom they sold to. It got more like the market for recreational drugs whereas before, it was fellow lifters helping each other out, and they’d ignore the high school kid who’d been training for 3 months and wanted to look like Arnold.

 

[MentalPariah]

My usage started after I got put on trt. I was going to the gym 3-4 times a week just to stay in shape. Eventually I though to myself "well I’m already on test the rest of my life so let’s play around with some of the “safer” compounds in moderate doses and see if I can gain a few pounds and look good naked or at the pool. Not trying to be olympia, just wanted to feel better about myself as a whole. But I agree theres guys/girls out there running way to much gear for way too long and its giving the guys like us who use responsibly (well most of us anyways) a bad name and to some extent perpetuating the stigma of your typical roid user. And it seems like every 120lb guy I see at my gym hops on high dose tren at some point and loses his shit like a psychopath.

 

[yelruP]

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My usage started after I got put on trt. I was going to the gym 3-4 times a week just to stay in shape. Eventually I though to myself "well I’m already on test the rest of my life so let’s play around with some of the “safer” compounds in moderate doses and see if I can gain a few pounds and look good naked or at the pool. Not trying to be olympia, just wanted to feel better about myself as a whole. But I agree theres guys/girls out there running way to much gear for way too long and its giving the guys like us who use responsibly (well most of us anyways) a bad name and to some extent perpetuating the stigma of your typical roid user. And it seems like every 120lb guy I see at my gym hops on high dose tren at some point and loses his shit like a psychopath.

It’s sad how many 18-20 year old kids will hop on tren because they look up to people like Jon skywalker or zyzz lmao.

 

[MentalPariah]

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My usage started after I got put on trt. I was going to the gym 3-4 times a week just to stay in shape. Eventually I though to myself "well I’m already on test the rest of my life so let’s play around with some of the “safer” compounds in moderate doses and see if I can gain a few pounds and look good naked or at the pool. Not trying to be olympia, just wanted to feel better about myself as a whole. But I agree theres guys/girls out there running way to much gear for way too long and its giving the guys like us who use responsibly (well most of us anyways) a bad name and to some extent perpetuating the stigma of your typical roid user. And it seems like every 120lb guy I see at my gym hops on high dose tren at some point and loses his shit like a psychopath.

It’s sad how many 18-20 year old kids will hop on tren because they look up to people like Jon skywalker or zyzz lmao.

It’s so disappointing. I’ve seen a few guys at one of the gyms I go to probably 20-25 who look good for their size. Then all of a sudden hes going up to every person talking about how he bangs a gram of tren and 1)looks like hes about to stroke out and 2) has perpetual crazy eyes. It’s such a waste. Fucking YouTube “gurus” have 100% played a part in fucking up these kids life. I’ll just keep my test, npp, and anavar thank you and look 10x better than that guy at 1/10 the dosages.

 

[alphaproject]

I know there are guys on here that start cycles early (20’s) in their life but I really think it’s stupid. I only got on GEAR because everytime I tried to push myself past a certain limit I’d get hurt and lose all my gains and I had tendon issues. After the healing abilities of Test I no longer have those issues and I went from 127 1 year ago to 160 pounds. I look natty though because I stay away from the “grainy” look and try to look like a mini Arnold rounded muscle look with a bit of a ripped look. I’m 45 now and in 2007 my Test was 700 so yea, 10 years later I felt I needed it to even work out. I worked out WAY too much and my Test wasn’t cutting it anymore. So guys that take it in their peak test years seem dumb to me but it’s your body. I did it as a last resort to get in the best shape I could but it’s been a bumpy ride as far as having some strange side effects. I don’t have gyno but my muscles cramp up sometimes. Make sure to give blood a lot too to prevent excessive red blood cell count.

Bostin was an idiot too. He was lazy and did so much gear and it never showed off because he didn’t spend nearly enough time in the gym and used sight enhancement oil.
I’m on a basic TRT level but occasionally I’ll take Dbol for a month or so. The highest Test I’ve ever got up to was probably 500 in a week but it was Test E mixed with some Prop so by the time the Prop was out of the equation I would say that it wasn’t really like giving my body 500mg of test either split up or all at once.

Basically I think if you want to get on GEAR try and reach your natural peak first and see how big/muscular you can get and see if you are happy with that before messing with your hormones.

 

[Skrackey]

Im like the only user in my gym. All the highschool kids ask how I got big, or if i compete. I just say eat and dont be scared to get fat. I started at 21 though