taptaptapcap
Member
I got some old vials from colonial that have been in the dark and temp controlled.. probably 2 years old.
Worth trying or toss?
Worth trying or toss?
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When to toss gear?
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Jlotz13
Member
They should be fine if you’ve had them stored properly like that.
CialisPalace
Member
Definitely. But they need to be disposed of safely. I’ll help. Send them over.
Big_Ed
Member
Look at you being so helpful!
iforgotmychit
Member
I have some gear around this old too, you think if the topper is popped off a vial of test E it would still be fine as long as the temperature is fine & in a dark area.
Big_Ed
Member
That'd be for you to decide. Mine were unopened, and spent the 5 years in a fireproof lock box in an air conditioned house. As long as they weren't in any extreme conditions, they'll be good for many years.
CaffeineandKilos
Active member
So long as you haven't pierced the stopper it should be fine if stored in a dark at least room temp cabinet or wherever
There's obviously only one way to tell for sure, which is to test an aliquot of what you have right now, but it's almost certainly good to go. This paper is supposed to be a study of how well a specific chemical method (HPLC) is at detecting testosterone cypionate and its degradation products. They took cyp and then did all the things to it that you'd do to degrade a molecule: lots of ultraviolet light, heat, high pH, low pH, and then exposing it to a strong oxidizing chemical (hydrogen peroxide). They weren't specifically trying to tear up the molecule, but rather to simulate what a vial of test cyp might go through if the person who buys it is a little careless -- leaves it in the light accidentally, doesn't refrigerate it, etc. Just "normal" abuse.
TLDR - it holds up MUCH better than all of the package inserts suggest, both to heat and light. And, when you do manage to break it apart, you're most likely to end up with naked testosterone as a result -- no ester, but not a Frankenstein compound, either. If you were to inject some lightly degraded test cyp, then, you'd probably get a little bit of PIP, a faster serum T spike from the test, and not much difference. And, based on how degradation kinetics work, a simulation like this is probably a good proxy for a small handful of years.
I can't source this claim, so assume it's a complete lie, but I've read that a timespan of teens to twenty years leaves you with something that could get you by, but wouldn't be wonderful. I've been tempted to do more experiments in the lab, but there's only so much that I want to mix my professional life with controlled substances, ya know?
TLDR - it holds up MUCH better than all of the package inserts suggest, both to heat and light. And, when you do manage to break it apart, you're most likely to end up with naked testosterone as a result -- no ester, but not a Frankenstein compound, either. If you were to inject some lightly degraded test cyp, then, you'd probably get a little bit of PIP, a faster serum T spike from the test, and not much difference. And, based on how degradation kinetics work, a simulation like this is probably a good proxy for a small handful of years.
I can't source this claim, so assume it's a complete lie, but I've read that a timespan of teens to twenty years leaves you with something that could get you by, but wouldn't be wonderful. I've been tempted to do more experiments in the lab, but there's only so much that I want to mix my professional life with controlled substances, ya know?