Why one shouldn't do orals only (thousands of threads summed up)

[justOralsTho]

You’re not being mean wtf you’re arguing your perspective on the issue giving the research you’ve done. Granted some of your assumptions for my intent are wrong, but whatever I don’t take offense.

I appreciate the links you’ve provided and the knowledge you’ve shared, I will do more research.

" I understand the irrational fear of needles/injections (even if you claim you aren’t scared, you’re still making up excuses the same way the people who are scared to use do) better than most."

Like this, you actually couldn’t be more wrong, I’ve had to deal with needles on a regular basis since I was 12, I have an autoimmnune disease. Blood tests and infusions have been a reality of my life since I can remember.

I was going to order test anyways in case I felt suppression sides that were ridic, so I can easily work test into the cycle.

Please take me at face value when I say that I am merely concerned with sides and getting some enhancement in the safest way possible.

 

[yelruP]

justOralsTho" pid='47978' dateline='1554697833:

You’re not being mean wtf you’re arguing your perspective on the issue giving the research you’ve done. Granted some of your assumptions for my intent are wrong, but whatever I don’t take offense.

I appreciate the links you’ve provided and the knowledge you’ve shared, I will do more research.

" I understand the irrational fear of needles/injections (even if you claim you aren’t scared, you’re still making up excuses the same way the people who are scared to use do) better than most."

Like this, you actually couldn’t be more wrong, I’ve had to deal with needles on a regular basis since I was 12, I have an autoimmnune disease. Blood tests and infusions have been a reality of my life since I can remember.

I was going to order test anyways in case I felt suppression sides that were ridic, so I can easily work test into the cycle.

Please take me at face value when I say that I am merely concerned with sides and getting some enhancement in the safest way possible.

Why do you think you know so much more than everyone else about steroids? Everyone here is right in telling you an oral only cycle is retarded. No matter how much you argue your case it won’t make you right

 

[alphaproject]

I don’t think it’s completely retarded to take orals only for a certain time, but eventually you’re probably going to want to just get some Test.

Like I said, I went on 25mg a day of dbol for a good month at least and saw an instant benefit. I never felt anything strange, never felt like my test was tanking or anything and I took minimum adex. After I was done I was back where I normally was at 136-138 I forget but it allowed me to put back on what most consider losing all your gains and a quicker recovery time. I had a pinched nerve and could barely get out of bed without pain killers or drive. So I lost a good month of being fucked up and my mom passed was in the hospital for a serious condition. So after she died I was 126 which I have not been in years. My genetic limit was really about 139 and I always ended up hurting tendons trying to get past that weight. Appetite is what it is and with dbol, my appetite increased and allowed me to process those calories better than my genetic limit. After that I went on a short… PCT. I think 2 weeks. Felt perfectly fine. Then I’m like well… if my genetic limit is the issue I’m going to see what happens if I go on TRT. I indeed gained even more muscle… was hungry more… everything was like magic. So yea my experience was indeed positive on an oral only but it was once. I can’t say it’s a good idea to just do orals though for like 3 months or something…

So fast forward a good 8 months I’m at 162 at my max. I never would have genetically ever hit this naturally. Heck I stopped hitting the gym and my body just starts eating away at the muscle. I don’t know if losing 5-6 pounds in 3 weeks seems drastic or not. Now I’m seriously at some plateau at 160 but I’m good with that because I only want to be stronger and not put too much weight on my frame. I’d rather feel good than get too big and tight… I’m already getting strange cramps even though I drink a lot of liquids and a high mineral intake and b complex. No cramping started until Anavar though… Just near the very end of the cycle. I only did about 4-5 weeks alongside my TRT levels. I also mixed in a few days of using proviron. 2 dry compounds I guess… maybe that’s an issue. IDK. I never had an issue when I did Dbol and Proviron. Oh and I made a slight error, I’m at 155 now… but my plateau is around 160-162. So even with more test… I upped it a bit to about 325-375. I usually do a combo of Test 400 mixed with Test E 250. 1 Ml then near 4-5 days I’ll shoot a shot of Test Prop 200 at 1/2 dose for a last minute kick. I try to extend for as long as possible the big Test E shot now. I may even start splitting my Test E shots up to 2x a week and use less oil at once.

 

[justOralsTho]

yelruP" pid='47983' dateline='1554700066:

Why do you think you know so much more than everyone else about steroids? Everyone here is right in telling you an oral only cycle is retarded. No matter how much you argue your case it won’t make you right

Hey man, just curious what part of “I appreciate the links you’ve provided and the knowledge you’ve shared, I will do more research”

and

“Please take me at face value when I say that I am merely concerned with sides and getting some enhancement in the safest way possible”

Gave you the impression that I think I know so much more than everyone else?

I just finished thanking him for the knowledge and saying I would do more research.

Sorry if it still came off that way.

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alphaproject" pid='47985' dateline='1554702140:

I don’t think it’s completely retarded to take orals only for a certain time, but eventually you’re probably going to want to just get some Test.

Like I said, I went on 25mg a day of dbol for a good month at least and saw an instant benefit. I never felt anything strange, never felt like my test was tanking or anything and I took minimum adex. After I was done I was back where I normally was at 136-138 I forget but it allowed me to put back on what most consider losing all your gains and a quicker recovery time. I had a pinched nerve and could barely get out of bed without pain killers or drive. So I lost a good month of being fucked up and my mom passed was in the hospital for a serious condition. So after she died I was 126 which I have not been in years. My genetic limit was really about 139 and I always ended up hurting tendons trying to get past that weight. Appetite is what it is and with dbol, my appetite increased and allowed me to process those calories better than my genetic limit. After that I went on a short… PCT. I think 2 weeks. Felt perfectly fine. Then I’m like well… if my genetic limit is the issue I’m going to see what happens if I go on TRT. I indeed gained even more muscle… was hungry more… everything was like magic. So yea my experience was indeed positive on an oral only but it was once. I can’t say it’s a good idea to just do orals though for like 3 months or something…

So fast forward a good 8 months I’m at 162 at my max. I never would have genetically ever hit this naturally. Heck I stopped hitting the gym and my body just starts eating away at the muscle. I don’t know if losing 5-6 pounds in 3 weeks seems drastic or not. Now I’m seriously at some plateau at 160 but I’m good with that because I only want to be stronger and not put too much weight on my frame. I’d rather feel good than get too big and tight… I’m already getting strange cramps even though I drink a lot of liquids and a high mineral intake and b complex. No cramping started until Anavar though… Just near the very end of the cycle. I only did about 4-5 weeks alongside my TRT levels. I also mixed in a few days of using proviron. 2 dry compounds I guess… maybe that’s an issue. IDK. I never had an issue when I did Dbol and Proviron.

Thanks man, appreciate reading your experiences

 

[shter]

justOralsTho" pid='47988' dateline='1554703449:

yelruP" pid='47983' dateline='1554700066:

Why do you think you know so much more than everyone else about steroids? Everyone here is right in telling you an oral only cycle is retarded. No matter how much you argue your case it won’t make you right

Hey man, just curious what part of “I appreciate the links you’ve provided and the knowledge you’ve shared, I will do more research”

and

“Please take me at face value when I say that I am merely concerned with sides and getting some enhancement in the safest way possible”

Gave you the impression that I think I know so much more than everyone else?

I just finished thanking him for the knowledge and saying I would do more research.

Sorry if it still came off that way.

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alphaproject" pid='47985' dateline='1554702140:

I don’t think it’s completely retarded to take orals only for a certain time, but eventually you’re probably going to want to just get some Test.

Like I said, I went on 25mg a day of dbol for a good month at least and saw an instant benefit. I never felt anything strange, never felt like my test was tanking or anything and I took minimum adex. After I was done I was back where I normally was at 136-138 I forget but it allowed me to put back on what most consider losing all your gains and a quicker recovery time. I had a pinched nerve and could barely get out of bed without pain killers or drive. So I lost a good month of being fucked up and my mom passed was in the hospital for a serious condition. So after she died I was 126 which I have not been in years. My genetic limit was really about 139 and I always ended up hurting tendons trying to get past that weight. Appetite is what it is and with dbol, my appetite increased and allowed me to process those calories better than my genetic limit. After that I went on a short… PCT. I think 2 weeks. Felt perfectly fine. Then I’m like well… if my genetic limit is the issue I’m going to see what happens if I go on TRT. I indeed gained even more muscle… was hungry more… everything was like magic. So yea my experience was indeed positive on an oral only but it was once. I can’t say it’s a good idea to just do orals though for like 3 months or something…

So fast forward a good 8 months I’m at 162 at my max. I never would have genetically ever hit this naturally. Heck I stopped hitting the gym and my body just starts eating away at the muscle. I don’t know if losing 5-6 pounds in 3 weeks seems drastic or not. Now I’m seriously at some plateau at 160 but I’m good with that because I only want to be stronger and not put too much weight on my frame. I’d rather feel good than get too big and tight… I’m already getting strange cramps even though I drink a lot of liquids and a high mineral intake and b complex. No cramping started until Anavar though… Just near the very end of the cycle. I only did about 4-5 weeks alongside my TRT levels. I also mixed in a few days of using proviron. 2 dry compounds I guess… maybe that’s an issue. IDK. I never had an issue when I did Dbol and Proviron.

Thanks man, appreciate reading your experiences

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btw I did var only cycle 2 years ago 40mg/train days for 4 weeks, I had some pretty good gainz and my blood test after cycle was perfect compared to running 350mg/tes E for 6weeks!!!

 

[yelruP]

shter" pid='48414' dateline='1554994693:

justOralsTho" pid='47988' dateline='1554703449:

yelruP" pid='47983' dateline='1554700066:

Why do you think you know so much more than everyone else about steroids? Everyone here is right in telling you an oral only cycle is retarded. No matter how much you argue your case it won’t make you right

Hey man, just curious what part of “I appreciate the links you’ve provided and the knowledge you’ve shared, I will do more research”

and

“Please take me at face value when I say that I am merely concerned with sides and getting some enhancement in the safest way possible”

Gave you the impression that I think I know so much more than everyone else?

I just finished thanking him for the knowledge and saying I would do more research.

Sorry if it still came off that way.

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alphaproject" pid='47985' dateline='1554702140:

I don’t think it’s completely retarded to take orals only for a certain time, but eventually you’re probably going to want to just get some Test.

Like I said, I went on 25mg a day of dbol for a good month at least and saw an instant benefit. I never felt anything strange, never felt like my test was tanking or anything and I took minimum adex. After I was done I was back where I normally was at 136-138 I forget but it allowed me to put back on what most consider losing all your gains and a quicker recovery time. I had a pinched nerve and could barely get out of bed without pain killers or drive. So I lost a good month of being fucked up and my mom passed was in the hospital for a serious condition. So after she died I was 126 which I have not been in years. My genetic limit was really about 139 and I always ended up hurting tendons trying to get past that weight. Appetite is what it is and with dbol, my appetite increased and allowed me to process those calories better than my genetic limit. After that I went on a short… PCT. I think 2 weeks. Felt perfectly fine. Then I’m like well… if my genetic limit is the issue I’m going to see what happens if I go on TRT. I indeed gained even more muscle… was hungry more… everything was like magic. So yea my experience was indeed positive on an oral only but it was once. I can’t say it’s a good idea to just do orals though for like 3 months or something…

So fast forward a good 8 months I’m at 162 at my max. I never would have genetically ever hit this naturally. Heck I stopped hitting the gym and my body just starts eating away at the muscle. I don’t know if losing 5-6 pounds in 3 weeks seems drastic or not. Now I’m seriously at some plateau at 160 but I’m good with that because I only want to be stronger and not put too much weight on my frame. I’d rather feel good than get too big and tight… I’m already getting strange cramps even though I drink a lot of liquids and a high mineral intake and b complex. No cramping started until Anavar though… Just near the very end of the cycle. I only did about 4-5 weeks alongside my TRT levels. I also mixed in a few days of using proviron. 2 dry compounds I guess… maybe that’s an issue. IDK. I never had an issue when I did Dbol and Proviron.

Thanks man, appreciate reading your experiences

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btw I did var only cycle 2 years ago 40mg/train days for 4 weeks, I had some pretty good gainz and my blood test after cycle was perfect compared to running 350mg/tes E for 6weeks!!!

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I hope this post is sarcasm