Energy Control Fraud

[MrMcGnaw]

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Verification from whom, you? Were they not already given a forum and given the go-ahead by mods?

If they’re testing compounds accurately I really don’t care about this witch hunt, is my point. It was dumb of them to try and get you to vouch for them when you’ve had a hard-on for them the entire time.

The entire mistake was trying to get Jano to verify they were clear, when he has every financial reason to exaggerate any small difference, in order to eliminate a competitor.

If you look at the end of that Energy Control thread it basically boils down to Jano saying “the 240 spec is not really as precise as I think it should be for anavar”. And for that, EC gets banned.

EC repeatedly said to send the sample to other places, and they’d get the same results. But we’re told “Jano has a graph! The results don’t matter. - the graph!”

This is a case study in gas lighting.

I can’t be sure they’re testing compounds accurately. One of the two samples I sent EC was t3. When the test came back as 0.84mg of anastrozole, I told them how disappointed I was since it was supposed to be t3.

They replied that it may actually be, since they test most things in a certain wavelength (240?) and t3 would be better tested at the 290 wavelength. They said that would change the shape of the peak (or something like that), so they’re retesting it to see if it indeed t3.

They also took 9 days to get to me when I paid for expedited service of 1-3 days.

I think EC has the ability to test things. But I think they’re more than likely early 20’s kids that aren’t very good with customer service, and overpromised. They are willing to guess the substance beceause, as Alice (EC) said, they’ll be right 90+% of the time. But that still leaves 10% or so incorrect. And, again, they got in over their heads with t/a promises.

I don’t think they should be banned forever here. But they did need to be off the board for a while to correct their business practices. If, in a few months, they’ve continued to satisfy customers that are still using them from this board, then let them be reinstated

Well, my ‘tomorrow’ by them is spanning a week now and they are ignoring my emails.

 

[Bearslovecheese]

90% correct and 10% wrong is absolutely not acceptable and should never be settled for in regards to product testing. 99% correct and accurate provides reasonable “beyond a shadow of doubt” confidence in what the analysis says, and Jano (IMO) provides that. EC (IMO) does not and has been already proven not to.

I think of Jano and/or other analysis sources as the “internal affairs” so to speak. They are a neutral third party, neither there for the customer or the source. They receive, they test, they report. Numbers don’t lie. And in this 3rd party position, you absolutely have to trust the numbers. Remember last year when PPL was found to be sending out HALOTESTIN in place of Adex to people? I mean, talk about opposite ends of the spectrum. When that news is reported we can’t afford to have to question the validity of the test or person providing the test.

 

[Janoshik]

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90% correct and 10% wrong is absolutely not acceptable and should never be settled for in regards to product testing. 99% correct and accurate provides reasonable “beyond a shadow of doubt” confidence in what the analysis says, and Jano (IMO) provides that. EC (IMO) does not and has been already proven not to.

I think of Jano and/or other analysis sources as the “internal affairs” so to speak. They are a neutral third party, neither there for the customer or the source. They receive, they test, they report. Numbers don’t lie. And in this 3rd party position, you absolutely have to trust the numbers. Remember last year when PPL was found to be sending out HALOTESTIN in place of Adex to people? I mean, talk about opposite ends of the spectrum. When that news is reported we can’t afford to have to question the validity of the test or person providing the test.

Thank you, Sir, I appreciate your trust and providing a good example.

 

[Septicanon]

Don’t want to say I told you all so but like… I told you all so since their 1st post

 

[Atexus]

Just adding to this: Energy Control has outright scammed me. I sent 4 samples to him and to Jano to test against each other. Jano has since completed the testing, while Energy control has not NOT completed the 1-3 days expedited testing (8 days ago), but they’ve not responded to a single email after where to send money and samples. I’m not using a ProtonMail address, and they had no issue responding to multiple questions/emails prior to sending samples.

So, to sum up, Energy Control has literally stolen $280 from me.

For anyone considering emailing them to have things tested, I gave them 2 shots. They messed up on the first, and now they have outright scammed me, taken my money and run.