First Cycle Finalizing

[GoatedGoat]

Been reading up and etc.
Here is what my first cycle should look like if anyone thinks any alterations should be given then please give them.
Taking any and all advice, thank you.

Bloods Timing: Pre, 4Weeks In, Post-2 Weeks
Length: 16 weeks
375 Test C per week

• E3D

20mg Tamoxifen

• ED

Arimidex .5mg (if sides occur)

• Wednesday

(Maybe) HCG
Last 2 weeks of cycle
400 IU HCG E3D
Carries out for 2 weeks

2weeks after last pin of Test C

PCT (Nolvadex):
6 weeks

• 20mg ED

Syringes:
Easy Touch - 1 CC Syringe Only
Needles:
Nipro:
22g to draw
25g to inject

 

[T&H]

Been reading up and etc.
Here is what my first cycle should look like if anyone thinks any alterations should be given then please give them.
Taking any and all advice, thank you.

Bloods Timing: Pre, 4Weeks In, Post-2 Weeks
Length: 16 weeks
375 Test C per week

• E3D

20mg Tamoxifen

• ED

Arimidex .5mg (if sides occur)

• Wednesday

(Maybe) HCG
Last 2 weeks of cycle
400 IU HCG E3D
Carries out for 2 weeks

2weeks after last pin of Test C

PCT (Nolvadex):
6 weeks

• 20mg ED

Syringes:
Easy Touch - 1 CC Syringe Only
Needles:
Nipro:
22g to draw
25g to inject

You don't need to take nolva at all on cycle, unless you start developing gyno. Save it for pct. And I personally recommend 500mg per week.

 

[GoatedGoat]

You don't need to take nolva at all on cycle, unless you start developing gyno. Save it for pct. And I personally recommend 500mg per week.

The nolva is for pct, planning now to do 500mg aswell.

 

[BurninSeagul]

Been reading up and etc.
Here is what my first cycle should look like if anyone thinks any alterations should be given then please give them.
Taking any and all advice, thank you.

Bloods Timing: Pre, 4Weeks In, Post-2 Weeks
Length: 16 weeks
375 Test C per week

• E3D

20mg Tamoxifen

• ED

Arimidex .5mg (if sides occur)

• Wednesday

(Maybe) HCG
Last 2 weeks of cycle
400 IU HCG E3D
Carries out for 2 weeks

2weeks after last pin of Test C

PCT (Nolvadex):
6 weeks

• 20mg ED

Syringes:
Easy Touch - 1 CC Syringe Only
Needles:
Nipro:
22g to draw
25g to inject

It seems like you have planned a comprehensive first cycle. I noticed that you clarified the use of Nolvadex every day during the post-cycle therapy (PCT) stage, which is a good decision. Apart from that, since this is your first cycle, it's important to be prepared to adjust your Arimidex dosage based on your blood test results. I would also recommend considering getting blood tests a couple of weeks after completing the 4th week blood test. This will help ensure that any adjustments you make to your Arimidex dosage, whether it involves increasing or decreasing the dose, effectively maintain appropriate estrogen levels (E2).
Additionally, you haven't mentioned your specific goal for this cycle. What do you aim to achieve from this cycle?

 

[GoatedGoat]

It seems like you have planned a comprehensive first cycle. I noticed that you clarified the use of Nolvadex every day during the post-cycle therapy (PCT) stage, which is a good decision. Apart from that, since this is your first cycle, it's important to be prepared to adjust your Arimidex dosage based on your blood test results. I would also recommend considering getting blood tests a couple of weeks after completing the 4th week blood test. This will help ensure that any adjustments you make to your Arimidex dosage, whether it involves increasing or decreasing the dose, effectively maintain appropriate estrogen levels (E2).
Additionally, you haven't mentioned your specific goal for this cycle. What do you aim to achieve from this cycle?

Hey, fixing the cycle right now. During this cycle about everyone advises to bulk to earn as much as you can, so current I am still on a cut but once that ends planning on hopping on. Thank you for letting me know when to take the blood test, i'll take your advice. Maybe I'll do a 8th week bloods? or whenever I feel somethings up.

 

[BurninSeagul]

Hey, fixing the cycle right now. During this cycle about everyone advises to bulk to earn as much as you can, so current I am still on a cut but once that ends planning on hopping on. Thank you for letting me know when to take the blood test, i'll take your advice. Maybe I'll do a 8th week bloods? or whenever I feel somethings up.

If you plan on doing a 4th week blood pull, it would be wise to focus more on week 6. Adjusting your Arimidex dose after the first mid-cycle blood pull should show changes in E2 within two weeks. However, if everything looks good and there's no need for adjustments to counteract estrogen conversion, you might not need a second blood pull during your cycle. During my first cycle, I had to increase my Arimidex dose to every other day (EOD). I was also taking 30mg of dbol for the first 6 weeks along with 500mg of test for 14 weeks. Dbol tends to aromatize quickly for me, but I was able to control it with a slight increase in AI usage.

 

[GoatedGoat]

If you plan on doing a 4th week blood pull, it would be wise to focus more on week 6. Adjusting your Arimidex dose after the first mid-cycle blood pull should show changes in E2 within two weeks. However, if everything looks good and there's no need for adjustments to counteract estrogen conversion, you might not need a second blood pull during your cycle. During my first cycle, I had to increase my Arimidex dose to every other day (EOD). I was also taking 30mg of dbol for the first 6 weeks along with 500mg of test for 14 weeks. Dbol tends to aromatize quickly for me, but I was able to control it with a slight increase in AI usage.

Thank you dude changed ai to aromasin as I was told it's the better ai for beginners out of the 2 and as well as it not needed to be taking continousily like arimidex is needed to be

 

[GoatedGoat]

New cycle looking like this:

Bloods Timing: Pre, 6Weeks In, Post-2 Weeks
Length: 16 weeks
500 Test C per week
250mg E3D
Aromasin 6.25 mg (if sides occur)
E3.5D (if sides persist) 12.5mg
HCG (Whole cycle plus 2 weeks after)
250 IU HCG EOD
Stops before starting Nolvadex

2weeks after last pin of Test C
-Drop HCG

PCT (Nolvadex):
6 weeks
20mg ED

Supplements I am taking right now: Creatine, Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men (multivitamin), & 2 pills of Ultra Omega-3 500 EPA/250 DHA.
Added supplements from someones recommendation: NAC, Vitamin K2, Taurin.

 

[BurninSeagul]

Thank you dude changed ai to aromasin as I was told it's the better ai for beginners out of the 2 and as well as it not needed to be taking continousily like arimidex is needed to be

I would recommend doing some additional research on aromatase inhibitors (AIs). The claim that Aromasin is a better AI for beginners might be debatable. In my opinion, Arimidex would be a more beginner-friendly option for several reasons. Firstly, Arimidex is a non-steroidal AI, which makes it easier to manage and adjust the dosage. Its reversible inhibition of the aromatase enzyme allows for greater flexibility in finding the optimal dose to control estrogen levels.

Another crucial consideration is the risk of crashing estrogen levels (E2). Prolonged use of Aromasin can potentially lead to E2 crashing as a potential side effect. Aromasin's potent and irreversible binding to the aromatase enzyme can result in more significant suppression of estrogen compared to Arimidex. While Aromasin can effectively manage estrogen during a steroid cycle, it requires careful dosing and monitoring to avoid E2 crashing. This is an important factor to keep in mind when choosing an AI.

It's advisable to gather more information and consult with experienced individuals, and make an informed decision based on your specific circumstances and needs as this is your one and only body you’re messing with.

 

[T&H]

New cycle looking like this:

Bloods Timing: Pre, 6Weeks In, Post-2 Weeks
Length: 16 weeks
500 Test C per week
250mg E3D
Aromasin 6.25 mg (if sides occur)
E3.5D (if sides persist) 12.5mg
HCG (Whole cycle plus 2 weeks after)
250 IU HCG EOD
Stops before starting Nolvadex

2weeks after last pin of Test C
-Drop HCG

PCT (Nolvadex):
6 weeks
20mg ED

Supplements I am taking right now: Creatine, Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men (multivitamin), & 2 pills of Ultra Omega-3 500 EPA/250 DHA.
Added supplements from someones recommendation: NAC, Vitamin K2, Taurin.

I can't speak to the use of hcg as I don't use it, but cycle looks great. And aromasin is fine, don't go buy adex since you already have asin.

 

[Pajama_88]

Not trying to dissuade you from your decision but in my experience 300mg is absolutely enough for a first cycle. You can run that with no AI most likely and get great gains. 500mg will most likely not be any better than 300mg, I'd say do 300mg and go up to 500mg eventually. Just my 2 cents but don't over complicate it either. Do whatever you want just keep it simple and train hard and eat a ton.

 

[T&H]

Not trying to dissuade you from your decision but in my experience 300mg is absolutely enough for a first cycle. You can run that with no AI most likely and get great gains. 500mg will most likely not be any better than 300mg, I'd say do 300mg and go up to 500mg eventually. Just my 2 cents but don't over complicate it either. Do whatever you want just keep it simple and train hard and eat a ton.

He doesn't know how he will respond. What if he's a low responder like 4x. Then 500mg will make a difference. Best to use a dose you know will yield significant gains if diet and training on point.

And dose titration on a long ester is 100% pointless. Run set dose the whole time. And fyi, I respond with 4.1 multipler so yeah, it could be a problem for him.

 

[Pajama_88]

He doesn't know how he will respond. What if he's a low responder like 4x. Then 500mg will make a difference. Best to use a dose you know will yield significant gains if diet and training on point.

And dose titration on a long ester is 100% pointless. Run set dose the whole time. And fyi, I respond with 4.1 multipler so yeah, it could be a problem for him.

Interesting take. I understand what you're saying so if that's your experience then its valuable information to take into consideration. Definitely not my experience but thats ok.

 

[GoatedGoat]

Interesting take. I understand what you're saying so if that's your experience then its valuable information to take into consideration. Definitely not my experience but thats ok.

Been told to take 500 as damage is the same regardless if the dose is 375 or 500 which is the reason which I decided to go with 500. Thank you for the advice I'll take it into consideration