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need to pct after blasting for health reasons

Microwaveguy34

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Hello, Im 20 years old and i've been training for around 6 years at this point, about 8 months ago i decided to finally hop on and Ive been blasting and cruising test e since than at 500 mg a week and 150 cruise. after going over my blood work with my doctor and doing some self analyzation of my own Ive realised that i haven't been using this stuff properly and at this point i'm just destroying my own health, and i need to come off completely. Im trying to figure out the right dosages for my pct and any recommendations for a pct would be much appreciated. Im planning on taking HCG and Nolvadex. I know im really young to be messing with this stuff and ive already heard all the bs from everybody im just trying to get myself off with the least amount of sides. thank you.
 

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What is your bloodwork looking like? You might want to add some health supplements into your PCT like astragalus, TUDCA, and NAC since the PCT drugs can also put a strain on you.

PCT or don't, you will recover about the same given enough time, so don't stress it too much getting things "perfect".

Take 1000iu HCG 2-3x a week right away and start 20mg Nolvadex daily about two weeks after your last shot. Do this for two months and get bloodwork again to see where you stand.
 

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What is your bloodwork looking like? You might want to add some health supplements into your PCT like astragalus, TUDCA, and NAC since the PCT drugs can also put a strain on you.

PCT or don't, you will recover about the same given enough time, so don't stress it too much getting things "perfect".

Take 1000iu HCG 2-3x a week right away and start 20mg Nolvadex daily about two weeks after your last shot. Do this for two months and get bloodwork again to see where you stand.
i havent seen my blood work yet, ive only talked with my doctor over the phone about it, its nothing super serious he said, but it looks like my cholesterol is getting pretty high and my pancreas is starting to get signs of strain
 

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i havent seen my blood work yet, ive only talked with my doctor over the phone about it, its nothing super serious he said, but it looks like my cholesterol is getting pretty high and my pancreas is starting to get signs of strain
Cholesterol can be fixed by fixing your diet. So can pancreatic dysfunction.

But you're young so you should probably come off anyway. Take some time and learn a bit more before using PEDs again.
 

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Just test??
yeah just test enanthate started off at 350 mgs a week for 16 weeks, than went down to 150 and cruised for about 8 weeks and i just got off 500 a week for 12 weeks, and rn im doing 200 a week until my pct comes in the mail
 
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yeah just test enanthate started off at 350 mgs a week for 16 weeks, than went down to 150 and cruised for about 8 weeks and i just got off 500 a week for 12 weeks, and rn im doing 200 a week until my pct comes in the mail

Definitely a hard road ahead my dude. I wish you luck. Would love to hear from feedback on your experience with coming off. I've never been able to
 

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yeah just test enanthate started off at 350 mgs a week for 16 weeks, than went down to 150 and cruised for about 8 weeks and i just got off 500 a week for 12 weeks, and rn im doing 200 a week until my pct comes in the mail
Where in this cluster of blasts and cruises did you get these labs done? Also, would be nice to know what labs they got on you to tell you, you had "pancreas strain" was it a high fasting BG, lipase, amylase, or?

I see you want to dedicate to the PCT, I think HCG and nolva only is a bad pct... I think you need to reconsider....

I PERSONALLY, would lower your T now to 150mg/wk cruise like you were doing. Whenever you get the HCG stop T and run HCG at 1000iu 3x a week until you get your testicles back working+hopefully decrease the atrophy (2+ weeks~~~). You NEED something like enclomiphene to re-start your HPTA, I would start this 1 - 2 weeks into HCG. it is wonderful to have big and working testicles until your pituitary gland is shut off and can't call on them to make testosterone naturally. I would do 6.25-12.5mg daily for 2 weeks and then 3.125-6.25mg for about 4 weeks. It will take ~5 weeks for the T to leave your system completely, I would wait a month after this full protocol and get blood work and re-assess if you need to pct again with hcg + enclo, or just enclo...

Your pct blood work should include LH + FSH to see if you are still shut down...

Nolvadex will not lower the E2 in your blood only stop it from binding to receptors, so taking nolva (and feeling like shit on it) really isn't the way to go, no clue why people even use it in PCT at all. If you took an AI during your 150mg cruise I would continue that until you stop the T and start HCG, if you get E2 sides on HCG only I would consider taking a smaller dose of AI.

Enclo can be hard on the liver so you need to find out what your labs were. Also, consider citrus bergamot depending on how poor your cholesterol really was...
 
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how long had you been blasting when before you tried to come off?
Two years of the blast and cruise game. Now going into year 6. I tend to keep test around 200 year round and sometimes. Not often will increase to 600 for 12-14 weeks if I can tolerate it. Other than that no other gear anymore
 
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