Opti - HGH / Somatropin ++ AAS oils ++ AAS tabs ++ MISC.

[Deleted member 54272]

Bro I'm glad he's willing to work with you at the end of day your satisfaction is all that really matters. Just do yourself a favor and never shake ur vials. Roll yes, gently swirl yes, shake FK NO....Good luck

Janoshik debunked the whole "you can't shake hgh" myth. He shook a vial very hard for 60sec then did a hplc immediately after. With the control and shaked vial it tested the same

 

[Ruger]

Janoshik debunked the whole "you can't shake hgh" myth. He shook a vial very hard for 60sec then did a hplc immediately after. With the control and shaked vial it tested the same

Alright my man you keep on believing whatever nonsense a known FRAUD like Janoshit is pushing, and I'll stick to what the LEGIT pharmaceutical companies TELL YOU when it comes to Growth Hormone....Talk about parroting holy cow.....This will be my last attempt at helping some of you cuz it's getting laughable at this point

Here are just a couple of links for you to hopefully click on and learn something today....If after you read this information you still want to believe something different well that's on you, but I'm gonna stick to THE FACTS........but hey what does Pfizer and Saizen know about the all new yellow tinted Growth Hormone that Opti is selling that can be shaken at will before injecting with no worries about possibly damaging the chemical structure of the Somatropin...They are obviously misguided they should have contacted Jano I guess

Info from Pfizer Genotropin I refer you to STEP 6 - It says clearly - DON'T SHAKE....but I guess they don't know what Jano knows.. Oh for Sure

https://www.pfizermedicalinformation.com/genotropin/instructions

Info from the package insert from Saizen I will refer you to Page 12 it says the following - To reconstitute Saizen®, inject the diluent into the vial of Saizen® aiming the liquid against the glass vial wall. Swirl the vial with a GENTLE rotary motion until contents are dissolved completely. DO NOT SHAKE. Because Saizen® growth hormone is a protein, shaking can result in a cloudy solution. The Saizen® solution should be clear immediately after reconstitution. DO NOT INJECT Saizen® if the reconstituted product is cloudy immediately after reconstitution or refrigeration. Occasionally, after refrigeration, small colorless particles may be present in the Saizen® solution. This is not unusual for proteins like Saizen®

Saizen don't know what Jano knows tho so don't bother clicking on the link it's full of lies....

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2004/19764s020lbl.pdf

Here's another one from Drugs.com covering Serostim and it's proper usage, side effects and preparations. If you look under the heading - How Do I Use Serostim - it clearly states DO NOT SHAKE THE MEDICINE, and it also says DO NOT USE if cloudy.....but once again what the hell do these guys know Opti has a shake proof version that's also slightly yellow....

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/serostim.html

I wish you guys well hopefully some of you will take the time to get educated it will save you a ton of money and wasted time....No worries shake at will it's your money.....WOW

 

[Deleted member 54272]

Alright my man you keep on believing whatever nonsense a known FRAUD like Janoshit is pushing, and I'll stick to what the LEGIT pharmaceutical companies TELL YOU when it comes to Growth Hormone....Talk about parroting holy cow.....This will be my last attempt at helping some of you cuz it's getting laughable at this point

Here are just a couple of links for you to hopefully click on and learn something today....If after you read this information you still want to believe something different well that's on you, but I'm gonna stick to THE FACTS........but hey what does Pfizer and Saizen know about the all new yellow tinted Growth Hormone that Opti is selling that can be shaken at will before injecting with no worries about possibly damaging the chemical structure of the Somatropin...They are obviously misguided they should have contacted Jano I guess

Info from Pfizer Genotropin I refer you to STEP 6 - It says clearly - DON'T SHAKE....but I guess they don't know what Jano knows.. Oh for Sure

https://www.pfizermedicalinformation.com/genotropin/instructions

Info from the package insert from Saizen I will refer you to Page 12 it says the following - To reconstitute Saizen®, inject the diluent into the vial of Saizen® aiming the liquid against the glass vial wall. Swirl the vial with a GENTLE rotary motion until contents are dissolved completely. DO NOT SHAKE. Because Saizen® growth hormone is a protein, shaking can result in a cloudy solution. The Saizen® solution should be clear immediately after reconstitution. DO NOT INJECT Saizen® if the reconstituted product is cloudy immediately after reconstitution or refrigeration. Occasionally, after refrigeration, small colorless particles may be present in the Saizen® solution. This is not unusual for proteins like Saizen®

Saizen don't know what Jano knows tho so don't bother clicking on the link it's full of lies....

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2004/19764s020lbl.pdf

Here's another one from Drugs.com covering Serostim and it's proper usage, side effects and preparations. If you look under the heading - How Do I Use Serostim - it clearly states DO NOT SHAKE THE MEDICINE, and it also says DO NOT USE if cloudy.....but once again what the hell do these guys know Opti has a shake proof version that's also slightly yellow....

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/serostim.html

I wish you guys well hopefully some of you will take the time to get educated it will save you a ton of money and wasted time....No worries shake at will it's your money.....WOW

Who owns the HPLC machine? Janoshik or Pfizer? I believe what I see. I SAW a video of Janoshik performing these tests. Not what a pharmaceutical company tells me when they say "trust us" lol. But to each his own. I know a pharmaceutical company would never mislead or lie. And with your logic geno pens should be hand delivered because the postal service would shake it much harder and longer than you could.

Nothing you say is based on scientific evidence. Somehow I didn't stop my hgh injections before my test and our tests were both nearly identical.

 

[Ruger]

Who owns the HPLC machine? Janoshik or Pfizer? I believe what I see. I SAW a video of Janoshik performing these tests. Not what a pharmaceutical company tells me when they say "trust us" lol. But to each his own. I know a pharmaceutical company would never mislead or lie. And with your logic geno pens should be hand delivered because the postal service would shake it much harder and longer than you could.

Nothing you say is based on scientific evidence. Somehow I didn't stop my hgh injections before my test and our tests were both nearly identical.

Like I said my man shake, shake, shake at will. In fact shake it like a protein shake.... I'll stick to gently swirling, but I'll tell you what I'm gonna do for you. Since I already tested one of the greytops from Opti that I have I will schedule a test for this Thursday. I'm gonna reconstitute the vial, and then I'm gonna shake the crap out of it. Then I'm gonna inject the entire vial like I usually do for a serum test and go get tested. I'll post up the results cuz now I gotta know. If it comes back the same or close to the same as the first time I tested (a score of 30) I'll apologize and take my punishment. It's gonna be a learning experience no matter what....Can't wait

 

[Deleted member 54272]

Like I said my man shake, shake, shake at will. In fact shake it like a protein shake.... I'll stick to gently swirling, but I'll tell you what I'm gonna do for you. Since I already tested one of the greytops from Opti that I have I will schedule a test for this Thursday. I'm gonna reconstitute the vial, and then I'm gonna shake the crap out of it. Then I'm gonna inject the entire vial like I usually do for a serum test and go get tested. I'll post up the results cuz now I gotta know. If it comes back the same or close to the same as the first time I tested (a score of 30) I'll apologize and take my punishment. It's gonna be a learning experience no matter what....Can't wait

I don't know much about opti but will your previous test and this one be from the same kit or batch?

I'm not bullshitting you when I said I shake all my vials and we got a near identical score on kits4less serum tests (I believe yours was batch C? I was on batch E, Batch E was 11ius). If shaking it was so damaging I should have been sub 5ng. Instead I was 21ng.

I'd be interested to see your serum test again but it's going to be the same as last since clearly both our tests from kits4less are near identical

 

[Ruger]

Who owns the HPLC machine? Janoshik or Pfizer? I believe what I see. I SAW a video of Janoshik performing these tests. Not what a pharmaceutical company tells me when they say "trust us" lol. But to each his own. I know a pharmaceutical company would never mislead or lie. And with your logic geno pens should be hand delivered because the postal service would shake it much harder and longer than you could.

Nothing you say is based on scientific evidence. Somehow I didn't stop my hgh injections before my test and our tests were both nearly identical.

The Pfizer pen doesn't come reconstituted hzxrg the solution and the growth are in separate chambers. Only after u twist the bottom of the pen will the solution be forced into the chamber containing the Somatropin. So it doesn't matter what the postal service does with the pen cuz the GH remains stable in it's "puck" or powered form until it's mixed.

My apologies to Opti for what looks like a hijacking of your thread with this shaking stuff, but I respectfully disagree with this shaking nonsense. So I will do my own experiment using one of the vials from one of the kits I have already purchased from you, and I'll post up the results. Like I said I ran a test already using 1 vial of the Opti Greytops and scored a 30...lets see what happens to the number after I shake the vial. I'm not gonna get all nit picky bros if it comes in somewhere close than like I said I'll admit I'm way off base, and everyone will have learned something.

It's kinda like the heat test we did using a vial that we left in a hot car for a week. We tested a vial from a kit and it scored low 20s, and then we left an unmixed vial in a hot car with temps in 90s for a week, and then reconstituted it and ran another test. It came back at 9.....We'll see what happens when you shake it....I'll take pics of the vial after I shake it up before I inject as well. I'm sure it's gonna be all bubbly....we'll see

@hzxrg - You seem like a good dude bro I'm not trying to come at you I just disagree with this idea that shaking ur reconstituted vial of GH won't damage the protein. So let's run this test and hopefully come out of it with a little more real world knowledge

 

[Deleted member 54272]

The Pfizer pen doesn't come reconstituted hzxrg the solution and the growth are in separate chambers. Only after u twist the bottom of the pen will the solution be forced into the chamber containing the Somatropin. So it doesn't matter what the postal service does with the pen cuz the GH remains stable in it's "puck" or powered form until it's mixed.

My apologies to Opti for what looks like a hijacking of your thread with this shaking stuff, but I respectfully disagree with this shaking nonsense. So I will do my own experiment using one of the vials from one of the kits I have already purchased from you, and I'll post up the results. Like I said I ran a test already using 1 vial of the Opti Greytops and scored a 30...lets see what happens to the number after I shake the vial. I'm not gonna get all nit picky bros if it comes in somewhere close than like I said I'll admit I'm way off base, and everyone will have learned something.

It's kinda like the heat test we did using a vial that we left in a hot car for a week. We tested a vial from a kit and it scored low 20s, and then we left an unmixed vial in a hot car with temps in 90s for a week, and then reconstituted it and ran another test. It came back at 9.....We'll see what happens when you shake it....I'll take pics of the vial after I shake it up before I inject as well. I'm sure it's gonna be all bubbly....we'll see

@hzxrg - You seem like a good dude bro I'm not trying to come at you I just disagree with this idea that shaking ur reconstituted vial of GH won't damage the protein. So let's run this test and hopefully come out of it with a little more real world knowledge

My mistake I was thinking of the nordiflex pen. They come premixed. Yes the genos you mix yourself

 

[Ruger]

My mistake I was thinking of the nordiflex pen. They come premixed. Yes the genos you mix yourself

No issues bro I just made the appointment....Cuz now I gotta know too ......Will post up the results when I get em

 

[Deleted member 54272]

No issues bro I just made the appointment....Cuz now I gotta know too ......Will post up the results when I get em

Nice. Maybe by next week I'll be rolling mine and you'll be shaking yours

 

[aspiring_gorilla]

I got a batch of black tops in yesterday that also have a yellow tint to the powder and a slight amount of tint when reconstituted. Injected 4iu worth and didn't have any issues or reactions but still a bit sketchy... Reconstitution took slightly longer than usual (about 2 minutes) but they do dissolve completely.

 

[Mustygh]

So, I have been emailing Opti for the past few days with no response, so I came to the forums to ask about my order and if there is a delay at the moment .

 

[username63741]

Alright my man you keep on believing whatever nonsense a known FRAUD like Janoshit is pushing, and I'll stick to what the LEGIT pharmaceutical companies TELL YOU

Bro they tell you not to mix painkillers and alcohol but that's obviously the best mix. Listening to the lies that Jew Pharma companies peddle (Covid) is prettty dumb in my opinion.

 

[Ruger]

Nice. Maybe by next week I'll be rolling mine and you'll be shaking yours

OPTI GROWTH HORMONE IS TOP NOTCH!!.......OPTI GROWTH HORMONE IS TOP NOTCH!!.......OPTI GROWTH HORMONE IS TOP NOTCH!!

I felt it was necessary to put in bold letters that Opti GH is top notch, because this test was done to see what happens to a vial of growth hormone that gets shaken aggressively. This has nothing to do with the quality of Opti's product it was simply a science experiment that's all........I've tested a bunch of different sources, and so far Opti has tested better than anyone which is why I have several of his kits, and I'll be getting more!!

Here are the results from the shaken bottle test -

This vial of Opti Greytops came from the same kit that was tested by me after I received them, and they scored a 30 on that serum test - See attached test result from back in late September. After some back and forth discussion as to what can happen if you shake a vial after reconstituting it, and why I thought it was a bad idea, I decided to let the labs decide what the deal was, and judging by this number I won't be shaking anymore vials in the future. The tests were done as close to the same as possible. Woke up and injected an entire vial and waited 3 hours and went and had blood pulled while fasting. The vial that I shook aggressively lost about 50%...Here are the results from both tests and a pic of my shaken not stirred vial of GH

 

[Bigdovis2]

OPTI GROWTH HORMONE IS TOP NOTCH!!.......OPTI GROWTH HORMONE IS TOP NOTCH!!.......OPTI GROWTH HORMONE IS TOP NOTCH!!

I felt it was necessary to put in bold letters that Opti GH is top notch, because this test was done to see what happens to a vial of growth hormone that gets shaken aggressively. This has nothing to do with the quality of Opti's product it was simply a science experiment that's all........I've tested a bunch of different sources, and so far Opti has tested better than anyone which is why I have several of his kits, and I'll be getting more!!

Here are the results from the shaken bottle test -

This vial of Opti Greytops came from the same kit that was tested by me after I received them, and they scored a 30 on that serum test - See attached test result from back in late September. After some back and forth discussion as to what can happen if you shake a vial after reconstituting it, and why I thought it was a bad idea, I decided to let the labs decide what the deal was, and judging by this number I won't be shaking anymore vials in the future. The tests were done as close to the same as possible. Woke up and injected an entire vial and waited 3 hours and went and had blood pulled while fasting. The vial that I shook aggressively lost about 50%...Here are the results from both tests and a pic of my shaken not stirred vial of GH
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update on how you feel, mood, sleep, recovery, performance in the gym, diet.

 

[Ruger]

update on how you feel, mood, sleep, recovery, performance in the gym, diet.

I feel the best I've felt in a long time actually. I'm running it pretty hard right now, but otherwise doing great. Been around awhile, and seen a lot and learned a lot. I'm from the line of thinking that you need to find out what works best for you, and run with it. No disrespect to anyone, but you do what works for you, and I'll do what I think is working for me. I see a lot of guys who get onto these boards and they're begging for the magic answer. It's always the same too - How much Clomid do I need, or how much Adex should I take? Nobody can answer that, because there's no be all, end all answer. Do labs man, and let the lab results tell you how much of what to add.
I'm Currently on Primo, Test, GH, T3, Proviron, and just started some Adex to keep the estrogen where I want it. Sleeping great thanks to the GH. Doing about 8iu a day. I say it like that because there are some days where it creeps up, but for the most part averaging around 8iu. Primo is at 600 down from 8, and my test is right around 750mg wk. Gonna check the numbers in a couple of weeks cuz it's getting close to cruise time. Opti's GH is solid like I said. I have no complaints whatsoever with his product

 

[aspiring_gorilla]

Has anyone tried Opti's sildenafil (viagra) tabs yet?

 

[Bigdovis2]

I feel the best I've felt in a long time actually. I'm running it pretty hard right now, but otherwise doing great. Been around awhile, and seen a lot and learned a lot. I'm from the line of thinking that you need to find out what works best for you, and run with it. No disrespect to anyone, but you do what works for you, and I'll do what I think is working for me. I see a lot of guys who get onto these boards and they're begging for the magic answer. It's always the same too - How much Clomid do I need, or how much Adex should I take? Nobody can answer that, because there's no be all, end all answer. Do labs man, and let the lab results tell you how much of what to add.
I'm Currently on Primo, Test, GH, T3, Proviron, and just started some Adex to keep the estrogen where I want it. Sleeping great thanks to the GH. Doing about 8iu a day. I say it like that because there are some days where it creeps up, but for the most part averaging around 8iu. Primo is at 600 down from 8, and my test is right around 750mg wk. Gonna check the numbers in a couple of weeks cuz it's getting close to cruise time. Opti's GH is solid like I said. I have no complaints whatsoever with his product

That yellow tint shit, I just said fuck it and I’m on the 3rd vial at 4iu-6iu a day 6 on rest days.

I don’t turn yellow lol, seems fine. No numbness but for the most part I’ll take the big dose at night before bed so usually will get around that.

But I agree. Figure out what works, stick with it. RaN npp for almost every blast and yeah got big but at the cost of mental health I think I found test primo GH to be the best. Haven’t gotten bloods, waiting another month to see

 

[dvorak86]

Am I doing this right?

Almost done with my orange tops and can't decide between the blacks or greys



Black Tops:
12IU per vial
3.91mg per vial average
11.73IU per vial actual (3.91mg*3)
97.173% purity average
11.73IU*.971 = 11.39 IU per vial
.6cc bac water per vial

For a 2IU dose:
2*.6=1.9 (dose*amt water)
1.2/11.39IU=.1cc
$0.96 per IU

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Grey Tops:
12IU per vial
4.65mg per vial average
13.95IU per vial (4.65mg*3)
96.563% purity average
13.95IU*.965 = 13.46 IU per vial
.7cc bac water per vial

For a 2IU dose:
2*.7=1.4 (dose*amt water)
1.4/13.46IU=.1cc
$0.89 per IU

If my math is correct - it would seem like the greys would be the better deal?

 

[brokenarrow]

Has anyone tried Opti's sildenafil (viagra) tabs yet?

Tried and true. Just wish it was Cialis. Just my preference.

 

[MiloQuinn69]

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Alright my man you keep on believing whatever nonsense a known FRAUD like Janoshit is pushing, and I'll stick to what the LEGIT pharmaceutical companies TELL YOU when it comes to Growth Hormone....Talk about parroting holy cow.....This will be my last attempt at helping some of you cuz it's getting laughable at this point

Here are just a couple of links for you to hopefully click on and learn something today....If after you read this information you still want to believe something different well that's on you, but I'm gonna stick to THE FACTS........but hey what does Pfizer and Saizen know about the all new yellow tinted Growth Hormone that Opti is selling that can be shaken at will before injecting with no worries about possibly damaging the chemical structure of the Somatropin...They are obviously misguided they should have contacted Jano I guess

Info from Pfizer Genotropin I refer you to STEP 6 - It says clearly - DON'T SHAKE....but I guess they don't know what Jano knows.. Oh for Sure

https://www.pfizermedicalinformation.com/genotropin/instructions

Info from the package insert from Saizen I will refer you to Page 12 it says the following - To reconstitute Saizen®, inject the diluent into the vial of Saizen® aiming the liquid against the glass vial wall. Swirl the vial with a GENTLE rotary motion until contents are dissolved completely. DO NOT SHAKE. Because Saizen® growth hormone is a protein, shaking can result in a cloudy solution. The Saizen® solution should be clear immediately after reconstitution. DO NOT INJECT Saizen® if the reconstituted product is cloudy immediately after reconstitution or refrigeration. Occasionally, after refrigeration, small colorless particles may be present in the Saizen® solution. This is not unusual for proteins like Saizen®

Saizen don't know what Jano knows tho so don't bother clicking on the link it's full of lies....

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2004/19764s020lbl.pdf

Here's another one from Drugs.com covering Serostim and it's proper usage, side effects and preparations. If you look under the heading - How Do I Use Serostim - it clearly states DO NOT SHAKE THE MEDICINE, and it also says DO NOT USE if cloudy.....but once again what the hell do these guys know Opti has a shake proof version that's also slightly yellow....

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/serostim.html

I wish you guys well hopefully some of you will take the time to get educated it will save you a ton of money and wasted time....No worries shake at will it's your money.....WOW

Ahhhh yes bc big pharma always tells the truth about everything, that makes me LOl