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Jaki1998

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I'm currently at week 10 of a light test and tren cycle. my "problem" is that i don't see any changes. like the skin on my arms is ripping because of growth and i have pretty heavy insomnia but i don't see any growth elsewhere, strength is pretty much the same and the muscle definition/ fat burning effect isn't there. the stuff is legit so did someone has similar experience ? what can i do to optimize the tren usage ?
 

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300 test and 200 tren
Interesting, I’m running 200 test c and 300 Tren ace, and I’ve already seen results in the first week. Have you been taking Caber to manage prolactin? at the end of the day bloodwork will be the only way to give yourself a good understanding of what’s going on. People here will be able to help a lot more with more information.
 

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Interesting, I’m running 200 test c and 300 Tren ace, and I’ve already seen results in the first week. Have you been taking Caber to manage prolactin? at the end of the day bloodwork will be the only way to give yourself a good understanding of what’s going on. People here will be able to help a lot more with more information.
I was thinking of taking something for prolactin and estrogen but the thing is that I don't have elevated levels at all or negative effects besides insomnia and low immune system. I never ran high doses of anything and never had any issues with prolactin and estrogen
 

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How was diet and training?
doing always a light surplus in calories (200-350) and started with 5 times a week with PPLPP. went down to 4 times a week legs and back, arms and chest and abdomen. feeling way better with the new routine
 

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doing always a light surplus in calories (200-350) and started with 5 times a week with PPLPP. went down to 4 times a week legs and back, arms and chest and abdomen. feeling way better with the new routine
The issue could be many things.. I don’t think you were eating enough food. Maybe you could’ve ramped up on doses and caloric surplus a bit? How many cycles have you done? I would’ve went up to 50mg/day Tren Ace and kept test the same. That should give some good results It shines the most for me at the dosage. This also depends on cycle history. If you weren’t getting results why didn’t you try changing something earlier in your cycle?

There’s the possibility your gear was underdosed to. You say it’s legit but do you know that for sure? Did you check your t level or was ur product tested?

Personally I am not a fan of that routine of legs/back on same day. Those are two very strenuous days in the gym and I think to get the most out of it they need to be hit on separate days.
 

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that's actually the first tren cycle. don't want to pin daily that's why I use e. according to eroids the source is legit and nothing is underdosed so I'll probably try to do 400 tren in the next cycle and 600 test. theoretically I'd like to burn fat that's why I keep the surplus that low but maybe that's really why nothing is growing except for the arms
 

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that's actually the first tren cycle. don't want to pin daily that's why I use e. according to eroids the source is legit and nothing is underdosed so I'll probably try to do 400 tren in the next cycle and 600 test. theoretically I'd like to burn fat that's why I keep the surplus that low but maybe that's really why nothing is growing except for the arms
This being your first tren cycle should’ve came with some damn amazing results. Bro you’re going to trust eroids???! Lol why not use a trusted and tested source on here? Who was the lab? The shit you were taking was probably bunk.
 

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mannn I'm new here don't know anything about sources on here haha. it was stuff buyed from getmassive.net from the pharmaqo labs
 

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This being your first tren cycle should’ve came with some damn amazing results. Bro you’re going to trust eroids???! Lol why not use a trusted and tested source on here? Who was the lab? The shit you were taking was probably bunk.
also where do I find tested labs for Europe on here? can only see unverified ones
 

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This being your first tren cycle should’ve came with some damn amazing results. Bro you’re going to trust eroids???! Lol why not use a trusted and tested source on here? Who was the lab? The shit you were taking was probably bunk.
I’d have to agree on that. In my first week and a half I’ve put on 10lbs, and my bench has gone up 50lbs.
 
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